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cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
June 24 2011 17:41 GMT
#161
interesting and weird indeed.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
June 24 2011 17:41 GMT
#162
On June 25 2011 02:38 blizzind wrote:
Also, blizzcon qualifiers will most likely be decided by ladder ranking. How much drama will there be if people who didn't level their accounts were invited? I actually expect there to be some drama around the time of qualifiers. Blizzard has a crazy way of detecting any shenanigans from their database so expect some bans.


So the best solution is letting Huk stream him waiting to ladder, while the bonus pool builds up so he is dropped from GM.


I am not young enough to know everything.
Liquid`EliGE
Profile Joined October 2010
United States527 Posts
June 24 2011 17:42 GMT
#163
On June 25 2011 02:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 02:25 stevarius wrote:
Deprive them of $50 and see how far they'll go.

It's embarrassing for a company to resort to acts like this.


A business (read as: primary job = make money) is enforcing their Terms of Service agreement (which we had to accept and agree to follow) so that they don't lose money. And if they enforced it on some random little bronze noobie, it wouldn't get any attention. If they enforced it on big-name players, however, it might actually make headlines (or a TL thread) and make other people think twice about breaking the rules. While we may not like it because we love HuK and TLO, I can certainly see why Blizzard would choose to do what they did.


Yea this guy basically said it all. If Blizzard wants people to follow their rules from the TOS, then they have to do it on people that we all know and love so we don't make the mistake ourselves to receive the consequences.

It is kind of stupid though lol.
Team Liquid"I was wondering why people who that would never dream of laughing at a blind or a crippled man would laugh at a moron."
Fdragon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States96 Posts
June 24 2011 17:43 GMT
#164
SC2 account sharing one day might result in a ban. Yet gold farmers can run rampant for a good amount of time or friends can share accounts for weeks or months in WoW. Wat....
ZvT makes me Sad Face =(
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46111 Posts
June 24 2011 17:43 GMT
#165
On June 25 2011 02:36 stevarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 02:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 25 2011 02:25 stevarius wrote:
Deprive them of $50 and see how far they'll go.

It's embarrassing for a company to resort to acts like this.


A business (read as: primary job = make money) is enforcing their Terms of Service agreement (which we had to accept and agree to follow) so that they don't lose money. And if they enforced it on some random little bronze noobie, it wouldn't get any attention. If they enforced it on big-name players, however, it might actually make headlines (or a TL thread) and make other people think twice about breaking the rules. While we may not like it because we love HuK and TLO, I can certainly see why Blizzard would choose to do what they did.


I like how you're implying that making an example out of a pro player would curb the account sharing of other players. It won't and it's laughable to even attempt to do so. Let's not even get on the subject of one of the parties being in possession of a BROKEN product.

If you're going to play the game of warning professional players using the accounts of others, you have to do it to all of them that are in plain view or not at all. A business can't be selectively picking them out as it seems to be in this case.


Why won't it? Why is it laughable and so easily dismissable?

I agree with you that Blizzard should be consistent.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 17:45:28
June 24 2011 17:43 GMT
#166
Why the fuck does Blizzard care? How is it possibly in their best interest to do shit like this? Their cross region system is totally broken and defending it is actually almost completely unreasonable.

edit: If they're trying to preserve the integrity of their ladder for the BlizzCon tournament, why don't they start by BANNING THE DROPHACKERS THAT GET TO #1 GM AND FARM WINS FROM TOP PLAYERS. That Pillage guy who was 69-0 from drop hacks? He still isn't banned. He just dropped from GM for inactivity. THAT is what's fucking pathetic about this situation.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
June 24 2011 17:43 GMT
#167
On June 25 2011 00:46 Jyvblamo wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out where pointlessly antagonizing fans fits into Blizzard's business strategy.

Yeah. I guess they're trying to be consistent, but to be honest they are just antagonizing those who they need not.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
June 24 2011 17:43 GMT
#168
Blizzard should worry less about what legit pro-gamers are doing on the ladder and worry more about keeping their ladder free from bugs, glitches and hackers, which they've been less than perfect at.
Big water
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
June 24 2011 17:43 GMT
#169
Blizz only have a say in it because traffic routes through Bnet.

Why is this? Traffic should be able to go from one copy to another, and then people would pay Blizz for the copy of SC2 and be divorced from obligation forever (can do what they want with their paid copy).

Why is traffic routed through Blizzard's servers rather than between players' copies?
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
June 24 2011 17:44 GMT
#170
Wow Blizzard you idiots. Someone should get fired for incompetency.

User was warned for this post
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 17:45:50
June 24 2011 17:44 GMT
#171
lol, Blizzard grow some balls pls and go do something useful...
srry but this is ridiculous -.-
They should give proplayers a free account when they are playing on another server like League of Legends(yes LoL is free but they get a maxed out account with everything unlocked :p) does.
This costs them maybe 2000-3000dollars which is nothing for them.
Petshop
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada73 Posts
June 24 2011 17:45 GMT
#172
If Huk's Account isn't providing him with games to stream, then Blizz can prevent PR troubles by just providing Huk with a couple of smurf accounts that already have a high MMR. 'LiquidHukz, LiquidHukx' etc
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
June 24 2011 17:46 GMT
#173
Always good to see Blizzard support e-sports with their design decisions.

One thing I find interesting is how schizophrenic their stance on their own ladder is. On one hand, they're fine with ladder maps being imbalanced and stupid, just for variety's sake; on the other, they want to use the GM league as a means of securing invites for tournaments, and institute all these rules for the sake of "ladder integrity".

In all honesty, it seems like such a shitty move, forcing programing teams to buy so many separate copies of SC2, considering how much free advertising they get from competitive play. I can sort of understand the lack of LAN, but the region-lock just seems like such small-minded greed. :/
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
June 24 2011 17:47 GMT
#174
People need to chill. Why are everyone so quick to rage over small things? And why do people equate battle.net features or lack of LAN with a community manager asking people to follow the rules?
Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
June 24 2011 17:47 GMT
#175
On June 25 2011 02:38 Bozotclown wrote:
So blizzard asked that they didn't stream account sharing? How is that not fine? Huk has an EU account for the tourney custom games so all this bitching about region locked accounts is totally off topic.

The thread title should be changed, it's sensationalist.

He couldn't ladder on his own account, because it was searching hours for an opponent, making it useless.

What option do you actually have in this case? Guest account doesn't help, so if you want to warm up, you have to borrow another one from somebody else.

People also mentioned, that there was some issue with joining a custom game.

Blizzard not only could have, but should have handled this properly. Threatening to ban is just silly. ToS is not enforceable in EU anyway AFAIK.

I can't shake this feeling, that there were alterior motives behind this. Maybe Blizzard has problem with the tournament altogether? Cause I'm pretty sure HuK was streaming his ladder play on TLO's account before.
DeepBlu2
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States975 Posts
June 24 2011 17:47 GMT
#176
Blizzard should be able to call them and tell them to stop. But it is completely hypocritical. No action is ever taken against anyone unless it's made publicly while there are thousands of people privately doing the exact thing. GSL is one among many tournaments to break this rule yet there is no repercussions, and rightfully so. What happened=Blizzard actually watches a tournament, causes useless drama over it. While they are in the right to do what they did, they should pay attention to everyone else and not just Huk to set a point.
u gotta sk8
splinter9
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 17:48:35
June 24 2011 17:47 GMT
#177
Lets get it straight people Blizzard doesn't lose money ever, they just make less. They aren't some striving indie company that has to pinch pennies to get by, if they decreased there profit margin by 0.5% we could all have LAN, REPLAYS strippers, coke. BS capitalism at its finest
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
June 24 2011 17:48 GMT
#178
chill guys. I think that blizz just wanted to talk to Huk. You know he is famous and everybody wants to be a friend with him.
Baeras
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States140 Posts
June 24 2011 17:48 GMT
#179
How many people are sharing accounts and not getting caught for it? I remember Protec caught that one price kid map hacking and account sharing but since its high profile blizzard whats to swing there cajones and make people fear them.
Bet on it!
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 24 2011 17:48 GMT
#180
For the record, if someone's MMR can get too high to be able to get games, that's clearly an issue Blizzard needs to take care of.
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