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Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
June 24 2011 17:49 GMT
#181
I don't know why people are hating so much on Blizzard.
Account sharing in any way is not allowed according to the ToS and EULA.
Everyone that read the thread about 'piracy kills LAN' understands why Blizz don't want to add LAN to SC2. Letting people share accounts also makes them lose some money, especially when a pro-player is doing it on a stream, which 'encourages' other players to do so as well.
Blizard just wants to defend their money, and their action didn't affect anyone at all, it was just a warning to not encourage people to share accounts.
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IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
June 24 2011 17:50 GMT
#182
On June 25 2011 02:39 decemberTV wrote:
retarded request when they are doing so little work on the game; they have a team of 50 people thats supposed to do everything;

they released the game BEFORE they even finished drawing the icons for certain upgrades. thats how under-manned they are when it comes to SC2.

The ladder is a joke in terms of maps, management, points vs mmr etc.
The channels on b.net cannot be moderated by anyone the way you could in SC1 and WC3.
Imput limit Reached.
The map search function is shit. You are never able to find any maps because they are not aranged alphabetically at any times and they are never aranged in likely of match when you search for something.

You might search of "ESL" and then before you get to click on the map you want you have to scroll 7 pages and search for the map among other maps that don't even have "ESL" in them.

YOU ARE A JOKE enforcing crappy rules like this but not fixing your battle.net 2.0. I would seriously rather play SC2 on Battle.net 1.0 with the SC BW interface !


Yeah I'm pretty sure it's not just the incident itself that's getting people angry. The fact that they bother to do this while ignoring stuff like ^ while the community is pretty much carrying their game to it's current popularity.
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vanoff
Profile Joined February 2009
Netherlands30 Posts
June 24 2011 17:50 GMT
#183
oh noes they might call me because i share an account with my brother =( and we both have 500 wins per race >_>
FenneK
Profile Joined November 2010
France1231 Posts
June 24 2011 17:50 GMT
#184
really arent doing themselves any favors

great for them making the game, but why do they have to constantly act without any consideration to those who appreciate it?
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Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
June 24 2011 17:50 GMT
#185
On June 25 2011 02:19 LazE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 02:07 Ocedic wrote:
On June 25 2011 01:04 iNcontroL wrote:
the issue is that nobody would think twice about huk using TLO's account... nobody at home is going "O M G I just realized I can allow my friend to use my account so he doesn't have to buy one!"

But when blizzard calls them up and asks em not to and then threatens action they get a huge PR mess...

It's really dumb


Pretty sure that's not that reason they dislike it. It's more like, "Oh Huk is doing it, so I guess it's okay and Blizz doesn't care."

Also, if anyone ever gets banned for it, there will always be the debate of why John Doe Diamond league gets banned for it, yet Huk can do it with no repercussions.

So really, Blizzard's decision to enforce their rules, with no exceptions is a smart one. Whether you agree with the rules or not is a separate matter.


My thoughts exactly.

exactly. 1 exception becomes a million exceptions. the rules exist for a reason.
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karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
June 24 2011 17:51 GMT
#186
On June 25 2011 02:50 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 02:39 decemberTV wrote:
retarded request when they are doing so little work on the game; they have a team of 50 people thats supposed to do everything;

they released the game BEFORE they even finished drawing the icons for certain upgrades. thats how under-manned they are when it comes to SC2.

The ladder is a joke in terms of maps, management, points vs mmr etc.
The channels on b.net cannot be moderated by anyone the way you could in SC1 and WC3.
Imput limit Reached.
The map search function is shit. You are never able to find any maps because they are not aranged alphabetically at any times and they are never aranged in likely of match when you search for something.

You might search of "ESL" and then before you get to click on the map you want you have to scroll 7 pages and search for the map among other maps that don't even have "ESL" in them.

YOU ARE A JOKE enforcing crappy rules like this but not fixing your battle.net 2.0. I would seriously rather play SC2 on Battle.net 1.0 with the SC BW interface !


Yeah I'm pretty sure it's not just the incident itself that's getting people angry. The fact that they bother to do this while ignoring stuff like ^ while the community is pretty much carrying their game to it's current popularity.


They can enforce their policies and still work on everything else. The two things have nothing in common and the guy who made the call does not work on developing battle.net 2.0.
Modeath
Profile Joined October 2010
United States68 Posts
June 24 2011 17:51 GMT
#187
This is blizz going we want everyone who plays this game to pay us money PER ACCOUNT cause were money hungry and dont make enough billions "really classy move from a really classy company".
Calm
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada380 Posts
June 24 2011 17:52 GMT
#188
On June 25 2011 02:04 DusTerr wrote:
Maybe the issue is part that TLO is currently #1 EU Grand Master while "on haitus"?

It's one thing to "let a friend" play on your account, it's quite the other to remain in a competitive ranked league because of it. (not that I suspect he was doing it on purpose)



This. I have watched HuK ladder on his stream with TLO's account this week, maintaining the #1 position for TLO who is not playing at all. I can see Blizzard being upset about this.
BroboCop
Profile Joined December 2010
United States373 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 17:54:27
June 24 2011 17:52 GMT
#189
doesn't matter, banning a starcraft2 account doesn't do anything. it costs $40 for a new one, its not like banning an mmo account. and its blizzard's fault that player's had to resort to his because of their lack of services provided through the game. regardless, i hope nothing arises of this and I feel that blizzard just wanted to feel important.

edit: oh someone warn blizzard, in the gstl they are using accounts named team names "oGs" for the whole team. 7 people are account sharing. someone please warn blizzard, this is a dire issue. sarcasm over. yes this is a slightly different circumstance, however, the same "eula infringement" is being "committed".
Aurex
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada115 Posts
June 24 2011 17:52 GMT
#190
I think this has to be in response to the blizzard.net invitational response. They want to crack down on account sharing and the mmr fluctuations on high level accounts so they know who to invite. How they did it was poor but it was their first try and maybe next time =/
gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
June 24 2011 17:53 GMT
#191
Shit people need to stop streaming quick before blizzard decides its against the rules to watch an SC2 account that isn't yours.
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jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 18:04:02
June 24 2011 17:53 GMT
#192
well first of all, blizzard only advised, they HAVE not banned, jumping the gun to fast guys?, they simply warned.. Being warned first is a whole lot better than being instantly banned. This shows they are rational, while thread OP is trying to make a case that blizzard is irrational.






Edit: This it not supposed to be another blizzard hate thread,



when you find yourself saying crap like this, its exactly the intention of the thread, to promote blizzard hate..


if you said, 'well not to be rude" but you are fat in that dress. Are you still not being rude? lol


this is yet another blizzard hate fest, for something they havent even done. I still see TLO account alive and well. This just makes me lol.


About the account not being able to find games, First of all lets not pretend there is no reason for that, the only way the matchmaker can compromise is by purposely saying fuck it, you will now face a much weaker opponent , Realistically that is like blizzard promoting smurfing. If the system cant find matches for you because you are to good, what you guys are basically saying is let the matchmaker give a bunch of walkovers and promote smurfing.

Why couldnt huk just find games and leave instantly instead?, do that for numerious games and im pretty sure you will be able to start finding back games . Instead this time its not blizzard promoting smurfing.


splinter9
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada172 Posts
June 24 2011 17:55 GMT
#193
On June 25 2011 02:53 gosuMalicE wrote:
Shit people need to stop streaming quick before blizzard decides its against the rules to watch an SC2 account that isn't yours.

I know your joking. But i think streaming your account may become and issue in the future if it gets really popular, needing some type of license or something like that.
Tenz
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia106 Posts
June 24 2011 17:55 GMT
#194
Hope they (Blizzard) read this and apologize. Because I'm gravely offended by this filth.

They want Huk to buy a copy for each region so he can compete? NA, SEA, KR, EU, China, Russia etc etc.

Will wait for the apology to be posted by blizz.
ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
June 24 2011 17:55 GMT
#195
i think team liquid should be able to afford an account for each of their players on each server...its a one-time cost.

it isn't really excusable that Huk play on TLO's account. I agree with blizzard because they are a business and having people openly 'cheating the system' on a streamed event is unacceptable. although i think that blizzard should probably let this one go assuming that Huk gets his own EU account soon. I can see why they wouldn't want to delay playing to obtain an account for Huk during the homestory cup...
Calm
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada380 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 17:56:37
June 24 2011 17:56 GMT
#196
On June 25 2011 02:52 Aurex wrote:
I think this has to be in response to the blizzard.net invitational response. They want to crack down on account sharing and the mmr fluctuations on high level accounts so they know who to invite. How they did it was poor but it was their first try and maybe next time =/


Exactly. The hate needs to stop...
Granted, the timing could have been better for making this confrontation (in the middle of a tournament), but I don't blame Blizzard at all. TLO's Grandmaster spot should really be given up for someone else due to inactivity, but HuK has allowed it to stay at the top of the ladder. In a competitive setting like Blizzard is trying to create, that's not ok. And they let the people responsible know.

Edited for clarity
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 17:57:27
June 24 2011 17:56 GMT
#197
On June 25 2011 02:49 Hoon wrote:
I don't know why people are hating so much on Blizzard.
Account sharing in any way is not allowed according to the ToS and EULA.
Everyone that read the thread about 'piracy kills LAN' understands why Blizz don't want to add LAN to SC2. Letting people share accounts also makes them lose some money, especially when a pro-player is doing it on a stream, which 'encourages' other players to do so as well.
Blizard just wants to defend their money, and their action didn't affect anyone at all, it was just a warning to not encourage people to share accounts.

Don't bring up that bullshit. Piracy has nothing to do with why Blizzard won't implement LAN or is against random, non-malicious account sharing. It's all about control, 'lost sales' of individual copies is not a factor.
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anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
June 24 2011 17:57 GMT
#198
this whole thing is ridiculous, enforcing rules against account sharing between two teammate professional gamers that are also two of the very highest profile players of their game that basically sell thousands of copies for them, seriously.

and i don't know where people get this thing that they told them to not publicly account share, they told them to not share accounts flat, now how can you not bitch about region locks since that's the whole reason why these guys need to account share, 1+1

and i agree with the whole "set an example" thing in principle, but dude, letter of the law vs. spirit of the law much ?

another embarassing move, and over the years these things stack uo until you just go meh and possibly stop paying attention to their games however good they might be, i for one am getting pretty tired with bilzz's approach to the community for the past couple of years

'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
June 24 2011 17:57 GMT
#199
lmfao. who would have thought that we took the unlimited accounts provided to us in bw for granted? ffs..
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ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
June 24 2011 17:57 GMT
#200
why cant Huk just buy an european account? He won like over 100k swedish kroner
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