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On June 25 2011 07:07 qwertzi wrote:
hahahahahahaha
if that really is true, it is pretty pathetic of blizzard!
if huk was playing for tlo in an online tournament, I would consider it account sharing. but not like this...
they were playing custom games... so there is no harm... and even if they played ladder, it is not like they were actually abusing... rofl
Blizzard is not invested in that online tournament. This actually makes little to no sense especially since only the GSL Code B (the no money tournament) uses Korean rankings. I guess perhaps some do, but the money is so little who really cares. They both bought the game. They both just wanted to play ladder. I don't see the big issue from blizzard.
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This is really dumb. Fairly certain it is up to the user whether or not he shares his account info and as long as there is only one player using the "license" at a time, Blizzard's EULA won't stand in any court of law.
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Because they want everyone to own an account (more sales).
Huk has an european acount, he can't play with it do to is leetness.
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Why do everyone blindly believe it really was Blizzard who called? I'm quite sure it just was someone trolling.
A big gaming company like Blizzard don't spend the time searching for the phone number and calling the host of a small german LAN competition to tell him that one of the players should stop using another players account.
If they would do anything then they would send an email to TLOs battle.net 2.0 registered email adress and ask him to stop sharing his account.
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lol they only intervene in the cases they notice....
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On June 25 2011 07:13 Batch wrote:
Why do everyone blindly believe it really was Blizzard who called? I'm quite sure it just was someone trolling.
A big gaming company like Blizzard don't spend the time searching for the phone number and calling the host of a small german LAN competition to tell him that one of the players should stop using another players account.
If they would do anything then they would send an email to TLOs battle.net 2.9 registered email adress and ask him to stop sharing his account.
You sir! You have made a valid point.
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Would be nice if Blizzard spent some time hotfixing the ladder issue in NA rather then to hate on huk and tlo.
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On June 25 2011 07:04 Bobster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 07:03 Tofugrinder wrote:
When I heard of this at first I thought somebody was trolling. Still can't believe it..
Maybe Blizzard bans all team Accounts in the GSTL too? they are used from up to 8 people!! -.- Hey man, don't give them ideas now!
Basically, this.... Without being able to give evidence right now, I can actually remember seeing a number of pro players sharing accounts when playing on non-local servers. SoftBaLL comes to mind... and I'm sure there are more.. soooo, what was logical about Blizzard's argument? Just because something is written down in a Terms of Use agreement, doesnt mean it's right/fair/just/the best and most logical way to do it..
In essence, what these players are doing is providing Blizzard with ALOT of free advertisement through each and every tourney they attend, making the image of esporst and SC2 grow with each event, and thus marketing their product to an even greater mass of people.
Either way, Blizzard really should hire a capable public relations consultant from stopping them from making these community faux pas, because to me this just seems rather petty and even a bit silly..
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On June 25 2011 07:02 HornyHerring wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 07:01 Lennon wrote:
Pathetic move from Blizzard. They better be embarrassed. Embarassed for enforcing the rules. Wait, what?
Okay. Everyone who can read understands what the infraction was. People are disputing that actually Blizzard's rules and many of their actions are trash. Your being condescending just makes you look ignorant of that controversy.
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Sometimes there are those moments when something seems too stupid to be real. This is one of them. What on earth is Blizzard thinking? The clause is in the eula to prevent a bunch of people from buying one game together and then effectively share their account. HuK has his own north american, european AND korean account and they know that. This was in no way harming them and it is common knowlegde that players from other regions often use other accounts to play tournaments on. Yeah technically it's in the eula, but just because it's there it doesnt mean it should be enforced in every case (it should only be enforced when there is real account sharing going on). I mean what is with the GSL team accounts? Is that sharing too? Every korean team house has a couple of accounts different people use. This just confirms my opinion that blizzard is becoming "evil" more and more. If they continue to treat their customers like criminals (not only on this occation) I will seriously reconsider buying HotS or Diablo 3. Every cent not going to Bobby Kotick is a good cent.
To those people going "they're just enforcing the rules" I say: Yes the rule is there and it is a good rule, but its not there to punish people who have the game anyways and are just sharing because the situation calls for it, but to punish those who actually try to circumvent costs by sharing or sell/buy ladder ranks (much like arena ranks in WoW) to people for money. I know It's in the ToS, but ultimately you bought the game and should be allowed to lend it your friend for a couple of games. Still can't believe blizz have become such idiots.
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Money money money we want moar money, we don't care about our games. We just want moar money, give us your money money money. Lan mode will make easier to crack sc2 or play it without buying it so no lan mode and ofc a pathetic behaviour by blizzard. This organisation disappoint me more and more...
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On June 25 2011 00:48 VicTimEyes wrote:
Classic Blizzard to enforce the Terms of Use the players agreed on when installing the game.
So this. Sure other players are doing it, but it doesn't make it right. HuK was simply WARNED not to do it again, it's not like his account was banned. He and TLO are influential figures in the community and were made an example of to discourage others from account sharing. WP Blizzard
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I think the problem is that an action like this encourages rulebreaking.
People will think nothing will happen if they use a friends account to ladder or stuff like that.
Blizzard just wanted to set an example that they DO care.
They have no intention of disabling TLO's account I would assume, it's just that they felt it'd be a good decision to show that Blizzard does take action against rulebreakers.
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On June 25 2011 07:15 RiT4LiN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 07:13 Batch wrote:
Why do everyone blindly believe it really was Blizzard who called? I'm quite sure it just was someone trolling.
A big gaming company like Blizzard don't spend the time searching for the phone number and calling the host of a small german LAN competition to tell him that one of the players should stop using another players account.
If they would do anything then they would send an email to TLOs battle.net 2.9 registered email adress and ask him to stop sharing his account. You sir! You have made a valid point.
Yeah, I'm not sure why a community manager would make a personal call to a lan to tell the player to stop using the account. They usually let the other people handle that stuff, and they have a system to warn you through email. Seems like a lot of work to find the number and call it just to give a warning. Plus that means he had to watching the stream at work also.
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well account sharing and multi accounting was pretty much forbidden in every mmo, until they realized they really profit from allowing it hehe. Well blizzard ladder is a bit different. And the real problem is its almost impossible to proof. Well it was said clearly on the stream this time and i bet some viewer was like omg i report this to blizzard, because of the recent dreamhack probably. (some huk hate there).
I guess they quickly decided to make an exemple on this, telling everyone account sharing is not allowed even if you are a pro. I mean the stream announced openly that they do something illegal not something clever to do with so many viewers that love to troll.
Still pretty much to late i would say. there are so many accounts used by multiple persons in casting etc.
Anyway a few people should be careful, software is bought to use by the person only sharing is illegal. If you want to share you need to buy the bigger license.
On a side note game industry don't really cares about account sharing and isn't really chasing account sharers, i guess promoting account sharing is something different hehe.
edit: I see this more as a warning to not mention it that they share. because you can get in trouble if you write rules you don't care about. But i guess if you want to hate Blizzard you can make something bad out of it, just like i can make something nice out of it ^^
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To everyone saying that if I don't agree with the ToS I should just "decline" and get a refund:
This is practically silly. If every person on these forums that disagreed with something in the ToS returned the game then Blizz would have about 1% of the sales. The ToS were known to be silly since before release. The public "agreed" (insofar as not reading and clicking is agreement) to the Terms basically under duress. Blizz could put basically anything in the ToS they want like "If you complain about Blizzard's policies on TL we reserve the right to ban your account." and everyone would still click "accept". The ridiculousness of EULA law in NA and EU will eventually reach a point of no return, and Blizzard is merely protecting their own policies for their own interests. By placing this in the ToS Blizzard ensures:
1) Some naive people will actually buy 4 accounts for their 4 children that only play the game once and then move back to WoW or whatever.
2) If they ever want to ban someone for account sharing they can point to the ToS and pretend they are justified.
3) If someone disagrees with the ban then that person must spend crazy amounts to contest the ToS in courts (more than $60 for a new account) and thus will never challenge the ToS in this way, because all they stand to get back is a refund (not their account).
If Blizzard ever faced a class action suit regarding account sharing representing everyone who is upset about this they would surely relent, which is also why they will never pursue wholesale bans for this "violation". Basically this policy is in place as a well reasoned bully tactic probably explained to them by their high priced lawyers.
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So when all the expansions are released, they expect every pro to buy the ENTIRE series for all regions and extra ones for smurf accounts. On top of that then ban those accounts when their MMR systems fail and they have to share accounts to find opponents...*log on to BW*
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On June 25 2011 00:47 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
What the hell? Since when has account sharing been a problem? Guess Blizzard will ban my wow playing roommate too since I borrowed his silver account so I could try out Zerg -_-
haha now you're f*ed :D
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another question, if i have couple of friends over, and I show them the game, and they want to try and play the game (for the first time), I get banned??? hahahahahahahahahahaha
for all u rules obsessed nerds, yes rules make sense... but only to a certain degree!
another case: two kids, only having one pc? (sorta like tasteless and day9) need to buy the game twice? c'mon...
maybe if ur master and dont want someone else to mess ur stats...
i guess rules are there for a reason, but sometimes they are just for rule-obsessed nazis.
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On June 25 2011 07:09 RiT4LiN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 00:47 Imrik wrote:
Do you really want LAN?
In all seriousness, I can understand why Blizzard is doing this, it sends a very clear message that account sharing is not accepted. Not even for pros, which should deter players from participating in account sharing. Props to blizz for standing behind their policy I guess... First sane person ITT. It seems like everyone thinks blizzard is a bunch of cool guys making cool games for the community. But in reality blizzard is a company, and if they dont make millions of dollars selling their game they'll go out of business. So to al pathetic nerds sitting at home crying about blizzard and imbalance. STFU do you realy think you know how to run a company better than the thousands of highly trained professionals working at blizzard?
Blizzard won't go out of business just because a bunch of pros share accounts when they even have an account on the server themselves. It will eventually go out of business though when it continues to piss its community off by doing stupid stuff.
And please stop with that company stuff. It's people in the end, not some mindless robots who are programmed to aquire the ultimate amount of money. By your logic they should fire everyone who doesnt work to their maximum potential every day and pay their employees only minimum wages. It isn't that way. Sure a company has to run and make profit, but not at all cost.
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