EPTBlizzard warns HuK/TLO for account sharing - Page 31
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kevinmon
United States540 Posts
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DusTerr
2520 Posts
how is this thread is at 30 pages..? | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
On June 25 2011 06:57 kevinmon wrote: Who gives a shit! Blizzard is retarded! U do realize you're on a forum about two games created by said firm? GG | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On June 25 2011 06:55 MichaelJLowell wrote: That Blizzard has a vested interest in discouraging pro players from advertising account sharing, which goes against their ToS/EULA.And what is "the reality of the situation"? | ||
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MichaelJLowell
United States610 Posts
On June 25 2011 07:00 Bobster wrote: That Blizzard has a vested interest in discouraging pro players from advertising account sharing. Why? | ||
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kawaiiryuko
United States368 Posts
On June 25 2011 06:54 Stratos_speAr wrote: Pretty sure there isn't a store in the states that accepts PC games that are returned opened. For refusing a ToS/EULA, you may have to ship the game back to the manufacturer, rather than the store. AFAIK (and I haven't looked extensively at this), most stores are /supposed/ to accept returns of games for ToS/EULA refusals but I don't know if the rank-and-file of Gamestop actually know that. Here's a link to the EULA: http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/sc2eula.html Here's the key text: IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO INSTALL, COPY OR USE THE GAME. IF YOU REJECT THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT WITHIN THIRTY (30) DAYS AFTER YOUR PURCHASE, YOU MAY CALL (800) 757-7707 TO REQUEST A FULL REFUND OF THE PURCHASE PRICE. | ||
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Lennon
United Kingdom2275 Posts
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
On June 25 2011 06:55 MichaelJLowell wrote: And what is "the reality of the situation"? I'm confused. Explain to me. I edited my post with further info. | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
On June 25 2011 07:01 Lennon wrote: Pathetic move from Blizzard. They better be embarrassed. Embarassed for enforcing the rules. Wait, what? | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
Because they want to keep the integrity of the ladder intact (probably use it for Blizzcon invites next year). Because they want to enforce their ToS/EULA to prevent more people from breaking it. | ||
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
You can't have professionals breaking the rules with thousands of people watching and then expect people to follow the rules after you let the professionals do it. If this "threatening" really happened it probably wasn't the best way to approach them though, and overall this is becoming somewhat of a farce. | ||
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Tofugrinder
Austria899 Posts
Maybe Blizzard bans all team Accounts in the GSTL too? they are used from up to 8 people!! -.- | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On June 25 2011 07:03 Tofugrinder wrote: Hey man, don't give them ideas now!When I heard of this at first I thought somebody was trolling. Still can't believe it.. Maybe Blizzard bans all team Accounts in the GSTL too? they are used from up to 8 people!! -.- | ||
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Skomski
Germany43 Posts
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Regretful
Sweden91 Posts
Not even the pros are above the law! Might seem pettty at first glance but it makes a lot of sense from a logical viewpoint. | ||
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qwertzi
111 Posts
if that really is true, it is pretty pathetic of blizzard! if huk was playing for tlo in an online tournament, I would consider it account sharing. but not like this... they were playing custom games... so there is no harm... and even if they played ladder, it is not like they were actually abusing... rofl edit: On June 25 2011 07:03 Tofugrinder wrote: When I heard of this at first I thought somebody was trolling. Still can't believe it.. Maybe Blizzard bans all team Accounts in the GSTL too? they are used from up to 8 people!! -.- true!!! and i think the ogs team has also one eu account, that is also shared in various tournaments... | ||
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Greatness
United States450 Posts
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RiT4LiN
Netherlands131 Posts
On June 25 2011 00:47 Imrik wrote: Do you really want LAN? In all seriousness, I can understand why Blizzard is doing this, it sends a very clear message that account sharing is not accepted. Not even for pros, which should deter players from participating in account sharing. Props to blizz for standing behind their policy I guess... First sane person ITT. It seems like everyone thinks blizzard is a bunch of cool guys making cool games for the community. But in reality blizzard is a company, and if they dont make millions of dollars selling their game they'll go out of business. So to al pathetic nerds sitting at home crying about blizzard and imbalance. STFU do you realy think you know how to run a company better than the thousands of highly trained professionals working at blizzard? | ||
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MichaelJLowell
United States610 Posts
On June 25 2011 06:54 PlosionCornu wrote: A more informed consumer base. And plus, not every single person is an egoist. Some people care for the greater good. I always feel that consumers (in the gaming industry) should get more informed about what they buy, and should vote with their wallets in a better way. They should. I don't disagree with that. We're also supposed to have consumer protection laws that discourage this kind of behavior. But obviously, I think everybody has seen how well that's turned out over the past decade. On June 25 2011 07:03 Bobster wrote: Because they want everyone to own an account (more sales). How does that benefit the consumer? How does that make the product better? On June 25 2011 07:03 Bobster wrote:Because they want to keep the integrity of the ladder intact (probably use it for Blizzcon invites next year). Integrity of the ladder? This entire incident occurred because the top player couldn't find games on his account. Fix that first. On June 25 2011 07:03 Bobster wrote: Because they want to enforce their ToS/EULA to prevent more people from breaking it. How does that make the product better? | ||
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chickenhawk
Portugal339 Posts
Problem is, software license agreements are not the same as other contract agreements. Normal people are not going to go to the store and read everything on a EULA. Buying a software product does not hold you to a contract until you agree to it, install and use it Mate, please use some common sense. The TERMS OF SERVICE (TOS) are TERMS not a contract. They are the terms blizzard offers for the right to use their product. Your only choice as a customer is to agree or to disagree. As i have stated above if you refuse to abide by those terms you may cancel your contract (meaning the original purchase). Yes it is unusual, but it is also standard procedure for software, and covered quite well by legislation and jurisdiction. Also as a sidenote, when was the last time you actually read the "contract" you agree to when buying things in a Supermarket/shop? You'd be surprised what kind of stuff is written in there, but most likely you have never read it. There are some problems in the things above. For you to be legally binding to something there must be a contract (at least in my country), therefor a TOS is a contract, and yes it is a special type of contract since the consumer has no power of negotiation, and thats alright. But the consumer has rights too. For example, in a normal TOS like those used in ISP or cable, when the company changes the TOS the user has the right to cancel the TOS. The problem in SC2 is that the consumer, if he decides to cancel the TOS, he will not be able to get his 60 dollars back, since no store will accept his disc. Blizzard is an American company and thus, there is likely sufficient nexus for American jurisdiction over these foreign players. The point is that violating Blizzard's ToS, even in a foreign country, could make you subject to American law. Wrong, since blizzard sould there product in my country they are subject to Portuguese law and Blizzard parent company is French.. go figure. | ||
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