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DharmaTurtle
United States283 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:44 Mailing wrote: It seems you don't know what you are talking about. He has extremely toned down since joining EG and I don't think he has said anything really bad since the start of 2011. Sure sure brah. Note that's EGIdrA. | ||
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piskooooo
United States351 Posts
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
That said, it sounds from everything said by both parties that walking away from the agreement is the best outcome for everyone. I, personally, am hoping for good things in the future from both Complexity the team and Destiny the player. | ||
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Fluffdaddy
United States19 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:31 GrimReefer wrote: i guarantee you sign at least 10 contracts per week without reading them. when you break the plastic seal on a video/computer game, when you click yes i agree to the terms on some pornsite, whenever you update software, so don't act like everyone reads every contract they make. have you paid for anything with a debit or credit card lately? that's a contract and i bet you didn't read the terms for that (hint: it's more complicated then i will pay for these goods/services). do you know where the binding arbitration takes place between you and blizz if you have a lawsuit regarding SC2? . EULAs, Terms of Services and other internet things are agreements and not contracts, and are also not as legally binding. If you don't read every legally binding contract you sign you are being dumb. Sorry. If you have a job that requires you to sign a contract, it is in your best interest to not only read it thoroughly but pay a very cheap consultation fee and have a lawyer check it out. In a legal situation, ignorance is not a defense. Besides, Destiny said he did read it, so the point is moot. The second half of Complexity's statement kind of says to me that they are not willing to have someone as polarizing as Destiny on their team. From a business perspective, if he had better results, the backlash from his homophobic and racists remarks could possibly be handwaved. This is a good parting of ways for both sides of the coin. Complexity doesn't have to constantly excuse one of their players and Destiny can go on and do whatever he calls what he does on his stream. | ||
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AmatolHorror
Iceland6 Posts
apart of losing respect for them is the way that post is put together I hate when companies throw out stuff like professionalism and values, those aren't very clear lines, and got the team on board with "oh no steven you just have to display professionalism and have coL values" and that means? "mute your mic" oh oh now i get it. I think Destiny has become a bigger name then coL in sc2, so maybe they got him on on board just to throw him overboard? gets people talking about coL, no such thing as bad publicity. those are just assumptions but this political correct speak definitely doesn't make them transparent, and when the community doesn't know what your trying to pull, makes us all suspicious, and not very trusting of coL management. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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DharmaTurtle
United States283 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:52 -Archangel- wrote: The worse thing about this whole mess is that Destiny stopped streaming because of this stupid thread Well, he was only playing SOTIS when this was announced. I do wish he'd ladder more, though its fun to listen to him play SOTIS. | ||
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algorithm0r
Canada486 Posts
Oh no wait I did hear something about them recently. They acquired ROOT... but not Kiwikaki or Slush... Well at least they still have some awesome personalities in Catz and Destiny... What? They released Destiny? Is Complexity a team or something? Destiny: Best of luck BROHAM! You don't need a team holding you down. ROOT was a good match for you and it is too bad that they had to move to Complexity. You'll find a new team if you want one, or not since you don't need one. Keep practising. I look forward to seeing you in the IPL! Destiny fighting! | ||
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Moralez
Portugal1857 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:50 piskooooo wrote: This guy is a cancer to foreign SC2. I'm glad they dumped him. im pretty sure mods will handle you. Im gonna open ban list thread so i can laugh at the reason ur banned. OT: I hope you get another team fast destiny so you can keep improoving! | ||
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relic
United Kingdom148 Posts
I would take a look at the history of coL for taking on outspoken players (in 1.6, and TF2) and kicking them shortly after. Either they have no idea about the scene, or just think people should change instantly for them. | ||
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Zurachi
Canada289 Posts
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imkp
United Kingdom139 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:52 AmatolHorror wrote: jeez man i lost all respect for that complexity gaming bull... coL will not be as much apart of the sc2 community as ROOT was, and if coL was not taking destiny based on tournament results, like so many are pointing out, why acquire ROOT without slush and kiwi which have the best tournament results and the whole personality of the ROOT team is Destiny and CatZ, and they lost one of those also. apart of losing respect for them is the way that post is put together I hate when companies throw out stuff like professionalism and values, those aren't very clear lines, and got the team on board with "oh no steven you just have to display professionalism and have coL values" and that means? "mute your mic" oh oh now i get it. I think Destiny has become a bigger name then coL in sc2, so maybe they got him on on board just to throw him overboard? gets people talking about coL, no such thing as bad publicity. those are just assumptions but this political correct speak definitely doesn't make them transparent, and when the community doesn't know what your trying to pull, makes us all suspicious, and not very trusting of coL management. Please, don't insult Root by saying Destiny was their personality. Drewbie/Catz/Kiwi were. | ||
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uSnAmplified
United States1029 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:50 DharmaTurtle wrote: I would recommend you stop using the word brah and read something before you respond to it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54Ealj0MBaQ Sure sure brah. Note that's EGIdrA. "toned down" does not mean he has stopped completely idra will always be that way "Anything really bad since start of 2011" , that game is from november 2010. | ||
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Jayrod
1820 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:02 Destiny wrote: One day, I got a message pretty much saying "hey, that contract is due tonight, you gotta sign it today". I pretty much had half a day to decide whether or not to sign, and it seemed like if I didn't sign, the deal would fall through for the rest of the team. I didn't want to mess up everyone's opportunities to move on with their career just because I felt uncomfortable, and there was nothing -too- objectionable in the contract, so I signed it. I've got to call complete bullshit on this point. It's clear from your demeanor and general lack of understanding of "the way things work" that you are fairly uneducated or, at the very least, unexposed to the realities that make it impossible to have your cake and eat it too. There's no way in hell you didn't have access to the contract until the due date... you just fucked it off and you're being transparent as hell right now. I mean seriously, you're going to take a high and mighty stance about doing things your own way and not caring about being a part of an organization or adhering to social norms of general decency, but then you turn around and you aren't even being candid in your explanation. Oh, and I'm TOTALLY sure you actually read the contract (100% sarcasm) I don't expect this to be well-received... don't care either really as I know the type of people that consider themselves your fans, but even the immature and unempathetic high school kids that watch you stream after school deserve you at least saying that YOU fucked up rather than a lame (made up) excuse that you couldn't view the contract until the due date. | ||
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catastropherofl
11 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:54 algorithm0r wrote: Wait. Is Complexity a team or something? I mean what members do they have? What tourneys have they won? Oh I know they have that guy I hate... Cruncher or something... Oh no wait I did hear something about them recently. They acquired ROOT... but not Kiwikaki or Slush... Well at least they still have some awesome personalities in Catz and Destiny... What? They released Destiny? Is Complexity a team or something? Destiny: Best of luck BROHAM! You don't need a team holding you down. ROOT was a good match for you and it is too bad that they had to move to Complexity. You'll find a new team if you want one, or not since you don't need one. Keep practising. I look forward to seeing you in the IPL! Destiny fighting! The amount of stupidity in this post is immense. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Ingebrigtsen
Norway343 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:50 DharmaTurtle wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54Ealj0MBaQ Sure sure brah. Note that's EGIdrA. note that the other guy started the BM | ||
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Quakie
Norway725 Posts
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juked
United States691 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:50 piskooooo wrote: This guy is a cancer to foreign SC2. I'm glad they dumped him. A cancer? He just has his own personality and is doing his own thing. Hes making himself a income and is playing SC2. He is making SC2 popular with his viewers and fan base. More exposure is just better for the game. Most people that watch him understand that his use of vocabulary is all based in context and isn't degrading anyone. He's fought his opinion on many shows and his stream various time. | ||
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branflakes14
2082 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:56 Jayrod wrote: I've got to call complete bullshit on this point. It's clear from your demeanor and general lack of understanding of "the way things work" that you are fairly uneducated or, at the very least, unexposed to the realities that make it impossible to have your cake and eat it too. There's no way in hell you didn't have access to the contract until the due date... you just fucked it off and you're being transparent as hell right now. I mean seriously, you're going to take a high and mighty stance about doing things your own way and not caring about being a part of an organization or adhering to social norms of general decency, but then you turn around and you aren't even being candid in your explanation. Oh, and I'm TOTALLY sure you actually read the contract (100% sarcasm) I don't expect this to be well-received... don't care either really as I know the type of people that consider themselves your fans, but even the immature and unempathetic high school kids that watch you stream after school deserve you at least saying that YOU fucked up rather than a lame (made up) excuse that you couldn't view the contract until the due date. Can't spell assumption without ass. And good luck on finding a new team Destiny. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
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