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Destiny released from Complexity

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It is highly recommended that your read this entire thread - at least until page 10. If you make uninformed opinions that have been answered by the thread, col management or Destiny, you will be banned.
Punic
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States152 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 17:17:17
June 22 2011 20:38 GMT
#1
http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/2870/

Effective immediately compLexity Gaming is announcing that we have parted ways with Steven “Destiny” Bonnell.

Due to the fact we so recently announced him as a coL.SC2 player, we feel obligated to explain to the coL Community what took place. Mr. Bonnell was invited to join compLexity as part of the ROOT acquisition. He agreed and on June 11, 2011 executed a legally binding contract with our organization. Then, despite being fully aware of what would be expected of him, he decided that he didn’t want to be part of a “big organization.” He refused to honor any of the terms in the contract.

This behavior left us in a difficult position as a management team. Despite Mr. Bonnell’s agreement to exercise solid judgment and professionalism in his trade, some of the polarizing opinions being expressed on his stream were in direct opposition the values compLexity has stood for since 2003. This behavior made our decision clear and Mr. Bonnell has been released from any and all contractual obligations. We apologize to our fans for this situation but strongly believe this is in the best interests of everyone involved. We wish him the best for the future.

Jason Lake
Jason Bass
Scott Ford
Edward Chang

On June 23 2011 06:02 Destiny wrote:
Sorry, I don't want to start any drama or anything, so here's my quip of the story

TL:DR : I signed the contract, I broke the contact, that's a pretty douche move.

Basically there'd been talks of ROOT/Complexity merging for a while, to relieve stress from catz/drewbie, which is cool, it gives them more time to play, etc...

One day, I got a message pretty much saying "hey, that contract is due tonight, you gotta sign it today". I pretty much had half a day to decide whether or not to sign, and it seemed like if I didn't sign, the deal would fall through for the rest of the team. I didn't want to mess up everyone's opportunities to move on with their career just because I felt uncomfortable, and there was nothing -too- objectionable in the contract, so I signed it.

In the following days, I had more time to think about it, and the more I turned it over in my head, the more problems I found with the arrangement, and the more reasons I found not to be associated with a major business SC2 team, at least not at this moment in time. I talked a long time to Catz, and had a few words with Jason, and eventually settled on the conclusion that I wouldn't actually be joining.


On June 23 2011 05:51 jlake02 wrote:

I can assure you that I have personally spoken with Steven over the past week. I sincerely wanted him to remain on the team but we were given no real option. He refused to participate with the team. Also, it was our full intention on allowing him to speak his mind on his stream but within certain boundaries of professionalism.

I spoke with him personally before this was released and he knew it was coming.

I think he's a good guy but it just didn't work out at this time. I wish him the very best in the future.




new free agent on the market. quite the roster mix ups we've had the past couple weeks. do you think anyone will want to pick up destiny despite his popular out spoken personality? could it actually be hurting him instead of helping him?
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PR4Y
Profile Joined November 2010
United States260 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 20:43:23
June 22 2011 20:40 GMT
#2
I KNEW THIS WAS COMING i posted it in his fanclub like a week ago... he seemed to have hated the coL idea.



as far as Destiny goes... yeah, he's a good player. He's not amazing, but he's good. I honestly think that until he posts some more consistently placing tourney results, not many teams will show interest in him. He is VERY outspoken and is sort of the anti-establishment personality in the pro community. Any teams that would even consider him have to accept that he doesn't like sponsorships or endorsements for any products that he personally doesn't like.

I understand I'll get hate for this, but I think he will remain a free agent for some time to come.
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Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
June 22 2011 20:40 GMT
#3
Well, the fanclub is going to have to change its name again.
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DavidMcF
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom189 Posts
June 22 2011 20:40 GMT
#4
No team will want Destiny - he can't be trusted to honour contracts or promote a good image for the team.
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
June 22 2011 20:40 GMT
#5
Sort of expected this... On his stream he was very vague on whether he is in col or not
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Coldplum
Profile Joined March 2011
United States24 Posts
June 22 2011 20:40 GMT
#6
This is going to destroy complexity's shot at playing competitively
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
June 22 2011 20:41 GMT
#7
Wow. What was said on his stream that made coL release him?
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Spacely
Profile Joined March 2011
United States108 Posts
June 22 2011 20:41 GMT
#8
<3 Steven Bronell, Destiny will find his way he is a very talented player.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 22 2011 20:41 GMT
#9
On June 23 2011 05:40 DavidMcF wrote:
No team will want Destiny - he can't be trusted to honour contracts or promote a good image for the team.


He was perfectly fine on Root wasn't he?
Spell_Crafted
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States192 Posts
June 22 2011 20:41 GMT
#10
My gut says if anyone picks him up, it'll be sixjax. They picked up major despite his bad reputation. Sad news if you ask me. I was really happy to see him on complexity and it seemed like his training was going quite well.
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Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
June 22 2011 20:41 GMT
#11
Looks like Destiny is kindred spirit to Kiwikaki...
TheWahbinator
Profile Joined September 2010
United States131 Posts
June 22 2011 20:42 GMT
#12
Part of me wants to be surprised this happened. But honestly I think it might be tough for him to get another opportunity just like this one.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 22 2011 20:42 GMT
#13
this translates to me as a refusal to do normal team stuff like blog, post on site etc.. am I wrong?

In any regard I like destiny >_< wish he'd value community/teams more though.. he could grow as a player!
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
June 22 2011 20:42 GMT
#14
I hope he finds another team soon, he has been rapidly improving as a legitimate tournament competitor in addition to his stream antics.
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Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
June 22 2011 20:42 GMT
#15
Too bad, he could of flourished as a player regardless of him being part of a 'big' organization. Well, I guess he knows what is best for him.

Hopefully he'll join a team as laid back as he is, and he'll continue to play for the crowds
Try another route paperboy.
Divination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States139 Posts
June 22 2011 20:42 GMT
#16
I saw him totally leave a team practice in favor of playing ladder games! Couldn't say I didn't see it coming.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
June 22 2011 20:42 GMT
#17
On June 23 2011 05:40 Coldplum wrote:
This is going to destroy complexity's shot at playing competitively



Doubtful, just another hole to fill.
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Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
June 22 2011 20:42 GMT
#18
On June 23 2011 05:40 Coldplum wrote:
This is going to destroy complexity's shot at playing competitively


Ehm in what way exactly?

ot: Not that expected, considering the language destiny uses i cant see any major team wanting him on their rooster.
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CodECleaR
Profile Joined November 2010
United States395 Posts
June 22 2011 20:42 GMT
#19
What did Destiny say on stream? O_o Nice though that a talented player is available for pickup from other teams.
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Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
June 22 2011 20:43 GMT
#20
it's not like he's winning anything

he's bombed out very early of two open tournaments in a row now, so i'm not sure why anyone regards this player as valuable. other players players typically touted as "bad" would cruise through the first 4 or 5 rounds of any open bracket with ease.
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