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It is highly recommended that your read this entire thread - at least until page 10. If you make uninformed opinions that have been answered by the thread, col management or Destiny, you will be banned.
AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
June 22 2011 21:42 GMT
#281
I feel like this thread should just be named "Destiny didn't join Complexity."

Too much drama over something so small. Destiny committed without really wanting to, and now it's resolved. Move along, nothing to see here. =P
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Skamtet
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada634 Posts
June 22 2011 21:42 GMT
#282
On June 23 2011 06:38 Bensio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 06:36 DharmaTurtle wrote:
On June 23 2011 06:33 thezergk wrote:
On June 23 2011 05:57 KimJongChill wrote:
I saw this kind of thing happening, what with Destiny's non-pc language. The only reason this is a problem is because he is well known, and how highly publicized his language became these past few months. I'm sure plenty of other progamers spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults, but it's not widely discussed enough for people to care. I suppose Idra is an exception simply because of his playing caliber.

Fortunately, Destiny has relatively improved, meaning that he is slowly performing better compared to the progress of his peers. I hope he takes this chance to seriously engage in practice, rather than Sotis all day :b

Good luck.


Well IdrA doesn't spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults . . . he just says things to individual people like calling them fucking skilless newbies or doesn't gg.




Seems like you have no idea what you're talking about.

Idra doesnt play P.....You got one of the many fake idra's my friend...
He did play protoss in the Beta.
catastropherofl
Profile Joined June 2011
11 Posts
June 22 2011 21:43 GMT
#283
Destiny isn't a great player, he's a good player, but he doesn't belong on EG, TL, or any other high end team.
v1n1z1o
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico185 Posts
June 22 2011 21:43 GMT
#284
On June 23 2011 05:53 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 05:50 Chill wrote:
This is a nice opportunity for Destiny.


how so?



Incontroll

i agree with him saying this will be a nice opportunity. In the previous questions on stog and djwheats shows you were well spoken about destiny's language on stream. I think this will give destiny a chance to look back upon those questions and possibly connect and rethink if he was wrong or right.

ps. u did interview with deezer(a+ interview) now with combatex plz <33
Roscowe
protheros
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal53 Posts
June 22 2011 21:44 GMT
#285
On June 23 2011 06:42 JoshSuth wrote:
I feel like this thread should just be named "Destiny didn't join Complexity."

Too much drama over something so small. Destiny committed without really wanting to, and now it's resolved. Move along, nothing to see here. =P


AskJoshy, always a man with wise words. Seconded.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 22 2011 21:44 GMT
#286
On June 23 2011 06:36 DharmaTurtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 06:33 thezergk wrote:
On June 23 2011 05:57 KimJongChill wrote:
I saw this kind of thing happening, what with Destiny's non-pc language. The only reason this is a problem is because he is well known, and how highly publicized his language became these past few months. I'm sure plenty of other progamers spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults, but it's not widely discussed enough for people to care. I suppose Idra is an exception simply because of his playing caliber.

Fortunately, Destiny has relatively improved, meaning that he is slowly performing better compared to the progress of his peers. I hope he takes this chance to seriously engage in practice, rather than Sotis all day :b

Good luck.


Well IdrA doesn't spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults . . . he just says things to individual people like calling them fucking skilless newbies or doesn't gg.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JzTrr1DRZM

Seems like you have no idea what you're talking about.


It seems you don't know what you are talking about.

He has extremely toned down since joining EG and I don't think he has said anything really bad since the start of 2011.
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Liquid`EliGE
Profile Joined October 2010
United States527 Posts
June 22 2011 21:44 GMT
#287
On June 23 2011 06:37 n0ise wrote:
I have no idea what Destiny is generally talking about, how he behaves, or what the incident at hand was.

I do, however, have a newfound admiration for Complexity. Finally, an organisation that doesn't take and endorse shit from anyone, just for a bit of extra e-fame. I hope others can take example.

/respect



Can't believe someone can say this considering they don't even know Destiny at all.. So you are happy that some dude you don't even know isn't on Complexity? Makes no sense..
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 22 2011 21:45 GMT
#288
I can't say I'm surprised. Destiny is really more of a SC2 celebrity rather than a professional SC2 gamer. A competitive team is not the right fit for him.
Mellon
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden917 Posts
June 22 2011 21:45 GMT
#289
On June 23 2011 06:38 Bensio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 06:36 DharmaTurtle wrote:
On June 23 2011 06:33 thezergk wrote:
On June 23 2011 05:57 KimJongChill wrote:
I saw this kind of thing happening, what with Destiny's non-pc language. The only reason this is a problem is because he is well known, and how highly publicized his language became these past few months. I'm sure plenty of other progamers spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults, but it's not widely discussed enough for people to care. I suppose Idra is an exception simply because of his playing caliber.

Fortunately, Destiny has relatively improved, meaning that he is slowly performing better compared to the progress of his peers. I hope he takes this chance to seriously engage in practice, rather than Sotis all day :b

Good luck.


Well IdrA doesn't spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults . . . he just says things to individual people like calling them fucking skilless newbies or doesn't gg.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JzTrr1DRZM

Seems like you have no idea what you're talking about.

Idra doesnt play P.....You got one of the many fake idra's my friend...


he played P in beta, but i don't know when that's from. About the whole coL hate, isn't it just ridicoulus? They try to support e-sports and sc2, why would u hate em? Losing Destiny was so obvious anyway, that and the fact that he hasn't had any good results offline, don't see him being a good addition to any team. Hopefully he will keep having loads of stream-viewers for people who like him.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
June 22 2011 21:46 GMT
#290
It's nice to hear both sides of the story although they still seem somewhat contradictory. I guess in the end all that matters is that everyone got what they wanted. Destiny was able to remove himself from the team without getting in trouble for breach of contract. More importantly, the situation didn't cause the Complexity acquisition of ROOT to fall through.

Again, good luck to Destiny in the future.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
June 22 2011 21:46 GMT
#291
Insane the amount of dislike for complexity some people have. I'll still root for you guys!

Also best of luck to Destiny, hope he finds a new team.
really?
ShoGuN_sc2
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom19 Posts
June 22 2011 21:47 GMT
#292
I think its a shame that Destiny wasn't able to move along with his ex-ROOT mates but given Destiny's explanation of the situation I think the way he acted was fair. Given the small amount of time he had to decide, agree was the safer option for the whole team. As JoshSuth said above this post title is adding more drama to something that isn't really very dramatic. It shouldn't reflect badly on either Destiny or Complexity who both have done what they think it right for them.

I hope Destiny gets himself a team for support, yes, he is very outspoken, but its good to have some members of the community who are close to the bone.
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
June 22 2011 21:47 GMT
#293
Destiny was the hipster nerd coL deserved, but did not need.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 21:54:27
June 22 2011 21:47 GMT
#294
I wouldn't conform my opinions and silence myself either if that is what a team wanted me to do. Screw "The Man".

edit: Just read Destiny's post. You gotta do what you find best for yourself. Nice of you not to screw over your team and sign the contract even though you didn't want to. >_<
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 22 2011 21:47 GMT
#295
It's a shame it the Complexity people expressed it in that way, like Destiny had done something unexpected and shameful.

While breaching the contract is obviously wrong, and both going their separate ways seems like the right thing to do, did they actually expect him to stop doing what he does?

Like it or not, that's the guys job, he wouldn't be here if he weren't like that, and I think it's pretty clear that being a streamer is above being a progamer as long as he has to support a familiy.

So yes, breaking the contract is bad and all, but it doesn't look like Destiny did something he doesn't do all the time, what did they seriously expect?

It looks like they either didn't know the player they were signing or I'm missing some other information.
barkles
Profile Joined May 2010
United States285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 21:50:07
June 22 2011 21:48 GMT
#296
On June 23 2011 06:38 Bensio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 06:36 DharmaTurtle wrote:
On June 23 2011 06:33 thezergk wrote:
On June 23 2011 05:57 KimJongChill wrote:
I saw this kind of thing happening, what with Destiny's non-pc language. The only reason this is a problem is because he is well known, and how highly publicized his language became these past few months. I'm sure plenty of other progamers spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults, but it's not widely discussed enough for people to care. I suppose Idra is an exception simply because of his playing caliber.

Fortunately, Destiny has relatively improved, meaning that he is slowly performing better compared to the progress of his peers. I hope he takes this chance to seriously engage in practice, rather than Sotis all day :b

Good luck.


Well IdrA doesn't spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults . . . he just says things to individual people like calling them fucking skilless newbies or doesn't gg.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JzTrr1DRZM

Seems like you have no idea what you're talking about.

Idra doesnt play P.....You got one of the many fake idra's my friend...


idra played P in the early beta. Given that this replay was from lost temple and didn't have the hide progress option on replays, it seems reasonable that this video was made with one of those early beta replays


On topic: too bad this whole deal went down the way it did, but it seems like it got resolved without anyone getting too upset. gl to both parties in the future
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 22 2011 21:48 GMT
#297
On June 23 2011 05:40 Coldplum wrote:
This is going to destroy complexity's shot at playing competitively


This made me genuinely lol, thank you <3
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Zerg4Ever
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada8 Posts
June 22 2011 21:49 GMT
#298
On June 23 2011 05:51 jlake02 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 05:46 Enox wrote:
wow, destiny just found out about that himself on his stream. he didnt know... like wtf!? how can they announce it before informing him



I can assure you that I have personally spoken with Steven over the past week. I sincerely wanted him to remain on the team but we were given no real option. He refused to participate with the team. Also, it was our full intention on allowing him to speak his mind on his stream but within certain boundaries of professionalism.

I spoke with him personally before this was released and he knew it was coming.

I think he's a good guy but it just didn't work out at this time. I wish him the very best in the future.


This is BS. You knew how he behaved while streaming. If you were THAT concerned about his streaming manners you would have spoken to him BEFORE offering him a contract. I think Complexity are the ones behaving unprofessionally here.
I'm high on life with no artificial substances added!
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
June 22 2011 21:49 GMT
#299
I agree with Destiny's decision. Being a pro-gamer with the goal of taking down big tournaments and being a pro-gamer who supports their family off of streaming seems like polar opposites to me.

In order to win big tournaments it's not wise to let your opponents see countless hours of your recent gameplay and in order to make a living off of streaming you must do just that.

I think Destiny could have done fine either way, but I think both coL and Destiny ended up with the best results for everyone involved. Still ROOTing (lul) for coL and still a fan of Destiny.
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 22 2011 21:50 GMT
#300
On June 23 2011 06:44 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 06:36 DharmaTurtle wrote:
On June 23 2011 06:33 thezergk wrote:
On June 23 2011 05:57 KimJongChill wrote:
I saw this kind of thing happening, what with Destiny's non-pc language. The only reason this is a problem is because he is well known, and how highly publicized his language became these past few months. I'm sure plenty of other progamers spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults, but it's not widely discussed enough for people to care. I suppose Idra is an exception simply because of his playing caliber.

Fortunately, Destiny has relatively improved, meaning that he is slowly performing better compared to the progress of his peers. I hope he takes this chance to seriously engage in practice, rather than Sotis all day :b

Good luck.


Well IdrA doesn't spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults . . . he just says things to individual people like calling them fucking skilless newbies or doesn't gg.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JzTrr1DRZM

Seems like you have no idea what you're talking about.


It seems you don't know what you are talking about.

He has extremely toned down since joining EG and I don't think he has said anything really bad since the start of 2011.


He told Minigun "kill yourself" on stream.

Anyways, I don't think any of the current known pro-gamers are really bm, it's all rather entertaining to me.
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