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On June 23 2011 05:57 KimJongChill wrote: I saw this kind of thing happening, what with Destiny's non-pc language. The only reason this is a problem is because he is well known, and how highly publicized his language became these past few months. I'm sure plenty of other progamers spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults, but it's not widely discussed enough for people to care. I suppose Idra is an exception simply because of his playing caliber.
Fortunately, Destiny has relatively improved, meaning that he is slowly performing better compared to the progress of his peers. I hope he takes this chance to seriously engage in practice, rather than Sotis all day :b
Good luck.
Well IdrA doesn't spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults . . . he just says things to individual people like calling them fucking skilless newbies or doesn't gg.
He's called people fags before. Self admitted. Already knows he shouldn't.
On June 23 2011 05:57 KimJongChill wrote: I saw this kind of thing happening, what with Destiny's non-pc language. The only reason this is a problem is because he is well known, and how highly publicized his language became these past few months. I'm sure plenty of other progamers spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults, but it's not widely discussed enough for people to care. I suppose Idra is an exception simply because of his playing caliber.
Fortunately, Destiny has relatively improved, meaning that he is slowly performing better compared to the progress of his peers. I hope he takes this chance to seriously engage in practice, rather than Sotis all day :b
Good luck.
Well IdrA doesn't spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults . . . he just says things to individual people like calling them fucking skilless newbies or doesn't gg.
Seems like you have no idea what you're talking about.
On June 23 2011 05:57 KimJongChill wrote: I saw this kind of thing happening, what with Destiny's non-pc language. The only reason this is a problem is because he is well known, and how highly publicized his language became these past few months. I'm sure plenty of other progamers spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults, but it's not widely discussed enough for people to care. I suppose Idra is an exception simply because of his playing caliber.
Fortunately, Destiny has relatively improved, meaning that he is slowly performing better compared to the progress of his peers. I hope he takes this chance to seriously engage in practice, rather than Sotis all day :b
Good luck.
Well IdrA doesn't spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults . . . he just says things to individual people like calling them fucking skilless newbies or doesn't gg.
Yeah, idrA doesn't tell people to go kill themselves or that they're a waste of life.
But.. But.. you can always hear the smile behind IdrAs words.
On June 23 2011 06:17 ken- wrote: Who signs a contract without reading it? Not the smartest guy...
i guarantee you sign at least 10 contracts per week without reading them. when you break the plastic seal on a video/computer game, when you click yes i agree to the terms on some pornsite, whenever you update software, so don't act like everyone reads every contract they make. have you paid for anything with a debit or credit card lately? that's a contract and i bet you didn't read the terms for that (hint: it's more complicated then i will pay for these goods/services). do you know where the binding arbitration takes place between you and blizz if you have a lawsuit regarding SC2?
Accepting an EULA is not at all the same thing as signing a contract
Legally, they are the same, an EULA is a form of software licensing contract.
I have no idea what Destiny is generally talking about, how he behaves, or what the incident at hand was.
I do, however, have a newfound admiration for Complexity. Finally, an organisation that doesn't take and endorse shit from anyone, just for a bit of extra e-fame. I hope others can take example.
How did complexity not know what kind of content was going on in Destiny's stream before they offered him a contract?
Unless what Destiny did not end up fulfilling is related to the stream content. Either way this was a good choice for an organization as professional and esteemed as complexity. Destiny is probably one of the least likely people to ever bring a positive image over to actual professional organization.
Does it really matter what idra and destiny says? stop comparing them to each other they both do their on thing and I am sure they do not like being compared to each other >,>
Meh. I read most of this because I already despise coL(because CrunCher is on there) and I really didn't want a coL & ROOT merger. And when they did merge they left out two of my favorite players so the dislike for them is probably at the tops right now.
I don't see why someone should be on a team that won't let the individual be who they are. Remodelling someone into being someone else for the sake of the teams image and is stated that they have to do things that promote coL/whatever in their behaviour is pretty weird. But as Destiny said, he signed it for his team-mates and only his team-mates so they could join a team that was bigger then ROOT. Kudos for thinking for your team-mates and not for yourself. You just gained +1 viewer when you stream (:
On June 23 2011 05:57 KimJongChill wrote: I saw this kind of thing happening, what with Destiny's non-pc language. The only reason this is a problem is because he is well known, and how highly publicized his language became these past few months. I'm sure plenty of other progamers spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults, but it's not widely discussed enough for people to care. I suppose Idra is an exception simply because of his playing caliber.
Fortunately, Destiny has relatively improved, meaning that he is slowly performing better compared to the progress of his peers. I hope he takes this chance to seriously engage in practice, rather than Sotis all day :b
Good luck.
Well IdrA doesn't spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults . . . he just says things to individual people like calling them fucking skilless newbies or doesn't gg.
On June 23 2011 05:57 KimJongChill wrote: I saw this kind of thing happening, what with Destiny's non-pc language. The only reason this is a problem is because he is well known, and how highly publicized his language became these past few months. I'm sure plenty of other progamers spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults, but it's not widely discussed enough for people to care. I suppose Idra is an exception simply because of his playing caliber.
Fortunately, Destiny has relatively improved, meaning that he is slowly performing better compared to the progress of his peers. I hope he takes this chance to seriously engage in practice, rather than Sotis all day :b
Good luck.
Well IdrA doesn't spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults . . . he just says things to individual people like calling them fucking skilless newbies or doesn't gg.
He calls them faggots. Calls korean people kimchi-man or something, and makes liberal use of profanities. I don't really care about the language to much, and Idra may not be as vocal as Destiny, but he is not too different.
It would probably have been in Destiny's best interest as a player to join complexity but he has his reasons of course. Hopefully he'll continue to improve and develop into a good player on top of an entertaining guy to listen to.
[QUOTE]On June 23 2011 06:31 thrilla2k10 wrote: [QUOTE]On June 23 2011 06:16 Zeroes wrote: Destiny is really manner to other people and only bms those who deserve it or those knows. While all I see cruncher do is bm, stream cheat amoung other things. [/QUOTE]
Stream cheating is not the same thing as stream sniping
I'd like to add my voice to the masses that I'm upset that CoL couldn't live alongside a presence such as Destiny.
I think in a way it actually runs counter to the true desires of sponsors. Making a corporate brand or product popular within a youthful market (such as Starcraft 2), in part requires a de-shackling of restraint, an embrace of edgy. A lot of kids aren't going to want products their teachers or parents would endorse.
Utilising Destiny (or others like him) could have been an opportunity to create a different product to sell to sponsors. If you're scared of big corporate, ring fence it, get different deals for those kind of players even scold them in public (while remaining friendly in private) to demonstrate that it's "not approved of". To just release is missing out on an opportunity to sell to sponsors that embrace edgy or are interested in targeting the very specific market of his followers.
On June 23 2011 05:57 KimJongChill wrote: I saw this kind of thing happening, what with Destiny's non-pc language. The only reason this is a problem is because he is well known, and how highly publicized his language became these past few months. I'm sure plenty of other progamers spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults, but it's not widely discussed enough for people to care. I suppose Idra is an exception simply because of his playing caliber.
Fortunately, Destiny has relatively improved, meaning that he is slowly performing better compared to the progress of his peers. I hope he takes this chance to seriously engage in practice, rather than Sotis all day :b
Good luck.
Well IdrA doesn't spew racist, sexist, or homophobic insults . . . he just says things to individual people like calling them fucking skilless newbies or doesn't gg.
On June 23 2011 06:37 n0ise wrote: I have no idea what Destiny is generally talking about, how he behaves, or what the incident at hand was.
I do, however, have a newfound admiration for Complexity. Finally, an organisation that doesn't take and endorse shit from anyone, just for a bit of extra e-fame. I hope others can take example.
/respect
Did you even think before posting this?
I don't know what obama's policies, ideology or goals are, but I do however respect those extremists who decided to not take his shit and try to assassinate him. I hope others take example.
On June 23 2011 06:37 n0ise wrote: I have no idea what Destiny is generally talking about, how he behaves, or what the incident at hand was.
I do, however, have a newfound admiration for Complexity. Finally, an organisation that doesn't take and endorse shit from anyone, just for a bit of extra e-fame. I hope others can take example.
/respect
You respect them for releasing Destiny, but you have no idea what goes on in his stream?
I want to say "who cares?", but honestly Destiny is famous for his personality and any team should know what they're getting into with him. He'll probably get picked up by another team if he wants to, though in my opinion he's pretty worthless for most teams. All he can bring is exposure and e-sports teams already have the exposure that he'd bring. He doesn't win or come close to winning any tournaments of merit.