EPTOf course, he's very clear about his opinions on his stream, but I kinda view that as "my house, my rules, leave if you don't like it"
gl to Destiny.
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SgtCoDFish
United Kingdom1520 Posts
Of course, he's very clear about his opinions on his stream, but I kinda view that as "my house, my rules, leave if you don't like it" gl to Destiny. | ||
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ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:08 Lipski wrote: like it matters. check eg's players liquipedia pages. none of them have any cup victories except idra and demuslim (showmatches doesn't count). same goes for liquid'tyler too. and loads of other players on very good teams. posting consistent results is not a necessity to be on the top team, it seems 2 things, first of all as far as eg goes, idra did win the last ipl, and did place very high at the last mlg. I believe he got 4th? (I could be wrong there). They didn't do to well at dreamhack, but they didn't have incontrol there, and Idra was clearly just really out of it mentally. And for incontrol, he did geth 4th at mlg dallas. So eg id doing fairly well at events where they're players are playing, not always winning, but placing high. And as far as tyler goes, he brings some stuff that destiny doesn't. First, tyler is on a slump, however he is very active in the community, and one of the most respected players out there. He brings vast knowledge of the game, a great background back through bw, and clearly gets along well with teamates (coaching Huk in booth of finals). Not a destiny hater, but he doesn't really bring any of the stuff tyler does, so I think the comparison is hard to make. Best of luck to Destiny. edit: 100th post! | ||
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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:19 fadestep wrote: Destiny decided he didn't want to be part of a crumbling, derelict organization with poor management and he made you guys drop him. what an extremely hostile and unbacked, naive statement to make | ||
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Omnipresent
United States871 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:14 Gheed wrote: I watch destiny's stream a lot, and nothing gets said there that any gamer doesn't say/hear a thousand times a day. I don't know what kind of sponsor would exist that would simultaneously sponsor a gaming team and have a problem with destiny. Are you serious? I'm really not sensitive about language, and Destiny says all kinds of things that make me cringe. I can't imagine a sponsor that wouldn't have a problem with some of the things he says and the way he says them (unless the sponsor was really trying to be edgy). | ||
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Svartstol
Sweden171 Posts
However, a pro team might not be the right way for him. It's just as much about how HE feels about joining a team as vice versa. I think it's important for him to enjoy his time playing, rather than being censured in a way he doesn't find acceptable. Because in the end we all play for fun, and if that goes away you might as well flip burgers at McDonalds. | ||
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DND_Enkil
Sweden598 Posts
Good luck to both of them. | ||
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puffel
Germany19 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Kinda reminded me of Rhino | ||
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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:20 Svartstol wrote: I think Destiny will do fine on his own, It's a shame though if he loses practise partners and such. However, a pro team might not be the right way for him. It's just as much about how HE feels about joining a team as vice versa. id imagine destiny to be fine, check out how he's like purely supported by coaching and streaming... and it's not like he lost his ex-teammates as friends or practice partners, not all gungho on his own | ||
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fire_brand
Canada1123 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On June 23 2011 06:16 parabs wrote: On June 23 2011 06:12 fire_brand wrote: If he wants to be a professional gamer he has to be professional. That's all there is to it. If he can't be than he shouldn't look for a team to pick him up or to compete professionally. I think what he is more than anything else is an entertainer. I doubt his ability will outweigh his questionable behaviour in a team's evaluation of him, so I don't see any big teams picking him up. If he were a top tier talent then teams would look past it, but there are tons of people just as good as destiny without teams, or on no name teams, that would be fine with following contractual obligations. I'd still classify Destiny as a professional gamer. He doesn't have a job and makes all of his income through gaming. That's his profession. There are quite a lot of teams with less obligations, and less strict contract rules regarding language on streams. But it doesn't sound like Destiny wants to be a part of that right now anyways. And that's why I would call him a professional entertainer, not gamer. | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:17 Destiny wrote: I definitely read the contract, and I had time to read the contract, I just wish I would have had more time to really think about it without feeling the pressure of other people on me. To some people, this is kind of a side thing, or an afterthought; it's just a videogame, after all. But it means a lot more to me, it's how I support my family. I'm very, very big on how I represent myself. There's a reason I'm quick to attach my real name behind everything; there's a reason my FB/Skype/E-mail/name are public. I'm very big on my image and I'm very uncompromising when it comes to managing my image. There's never a -good- reason to intentionally breach a contract that you've read, understood, and signed. I just gave the "why" for doing so. I appreciate the response. Very few pro players take time to read/respond to posts on TL, which is incredibly time consuming. I'm sure that you're tired of talking and hearing about this, so I'll leave my queries at that. | ||
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imkp
United Kingdom139 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:16 Zeroes wrote: Destiny is really manner to other people and only bms those who deserve it or those knows. While all I see cruncher do is bm, stream cheat amoung other things. really all i see is complexity finding a reason to get rid destiny because he isnt that great of a player. This is not true at all. Destiny BMs a lot of people on his stream he doesn't know and who don't deserve it. It's fine to stand up for a player but to make his awful attitude seem less awful by comparing him to another player.. when he's just as bad if not worse is a bit strange. I think it's a bad decision by Destiny to not honour Complexity's contract considering they are an amazing organisation and have been for a long time. It's definitely his loss. I'm sure they'll move on since there are countless of other good Zergs. | ||
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Sans_Serif
United States11 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:07 SixPackAbs wrote: Hope you can find a team that goes along with your style, destiny. User was warned for this post I don't understand the reason for warning a individual over post that contains such positive well wishing. | ||
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Ohmboy
United States61 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:19 fadestep wrote: Destiny decided he didn't want to be part of a crumbling, derelict organization with poor management and he made you guys drop him. Wow, I suppose this is when the blind coL hate starts to come into the thread. Destiny represented coL poorly before he decided to leave, that's what happened. He may have reasons or explanations for his behavior while under contract, but they aren't good reasons or explanations, and he has even stated this in above posts. | ||
fusefuse
Estonia4644 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:22 Sans_Serif wrote: I don't understand the reason for warning a individual over post that contains such positive well wishing. reread that post, then see the edit tag on the lower right then if you actually read the rest of the thread, you will see his original post quoted several times. | ||
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Svartstol
Sweden171 Posts
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iamtheoneneo
144 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:22 Sans_Serif wrote: I don't understand the reason for warning a individual over post that contains such positive well wishing. I believe the post you see now is a re-edited version with much nicer words.  | ||
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trancey
United States430 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:19 fadestep wrote: I like how coL is trying to spin it like they released him or didn't like because they realized, "OMG LOOK AT THIS STREAM CONTENT". No. Destiny decided he didn't want to be part of a crumbling, derelict organization with poor management and he made you guys drop him. I don't represent complexity, but they're far from a "crumbling, derelict organization".. The only team left over from CGS, 3 owners who arguably who each could run their own team separately. If anything, complexity was one of the last G7 teams to enter into SC2 and they know they're playing catch up. | ||
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Lipski
Poland373 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:19 ronpaul012 wrote: 2 things, first of all as far as eg goes, idra did win the last ipl, and did place very high at the last mlg. I believe he got 4th? (I could be wrong there). They didn't do to well at dreamhack, but they didn't have incontrol there, and Idra was clearly just really out of it mentally. And for incontrol, he did geth 4th at mlg dallas. So eg id doing fairly well at events where they're players are playing, not always winning, but placing high. And as far as tyler goes, he brings some stuff that destiny doesn't. First, tyler is on a slump, however he is very active in the community, and one of the most respected players out there. He brings vast knowledge of the game, a great background back through bw, and clearly gets along well with teamates (coaching Huk in booth of finals). Not a destiny hater, but he doesn't really bring any of the stuff tyler does, so I think the comparison is hard to make. Best of luck to Destiny. i agree, all i meant is that, despite not having any major accomplishments, there are players on top teams, so there must be other things they bring to the table. so, even though destiny is not winning tournaments (he did qualify for 50k$ IPL2, mind you), he still could be a part of decent team, and some people in this thread suggested otherwise. that being said, gl to complexity and destiny in the future! | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:22 Sans_Serif wrote: I don't understand the reason for warning a individual over post that contains such positive well wishing. I honestly can't either. I guess it might be construed as slighting Col. for being stodgy? edit: ok nvm, I think someone might've answered it. | ||
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parabs
Canada68 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:22 fire_brand wrote: And that's why I would call him a professional entertainer, not gamer. A fair point. But I don't think people are there strictly for his attitude and humor. Hell people get pissed off when he starts playing SOTIS so there has to be SOME gaming aspect to his profession. If he entertains people playing SC2 then he's still a professional gamer. Not saying he wouldn't draw views if he just had a talk show or something, but the gaming aspect of his stream has a lot to do with his success. | ||
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