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It is highly recommended that your read this entire thread - at least until page 10. If you make uninformed opinions that have been answered by the thread, col management or Destiny, you will be banned.
Liquid`EliGE
Profile Joined October 2010
United States527 Posts
June 22 2011 21:11 GMT
#181
Good luck Destiny Happy to see that you are always sticking for what you believe in and not changing yourself in any way for others

hope you do well in the future.
Team Liquid"I was wondering why people who that would never dream of laughing at a blind or a crippled man would laugh at a moron."
Bedward
Profile Joined March 2011
United States28 Posts
June 22 2011 21:11 GMT
#182
i can't say that i'm surprised. Didn't see the relationship lasting long between a personality like destiny and a major organization. Don't get me wrong, i <3 him and watch daily, just couldn't see it happening. Best of luck to all parties involved.
“You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”~ Friedrich Nietzsche
Czar_
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3 Posts
June 22 2011 21:11 GMT
#183
CHILL GET OUT!

User was banned for this post.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
June 22 2011 21:11 GMT
#184
On June 23 2011 05:44 TylerThaCreator wrote:
probably has something to do with his NASL open disaster vs capoch?


What happened with NASL?
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
krews
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1308 Posts
June 22 2011 21:11 GMT
#185
On June 23 2011 06:07 j4ckd4v13z wrote:
Not saying the players you picked up from root are bad but you

1) Didn't pick Kiwi and Slush - Arguably the two best players

2) Kicked Destiny in a "BM" way by not informing him - most influential player


Complexity Staff · Top Commenter
I can assure you he was aware of this beforehand and I have logs to prove it.

he knew, he even said in the thread he talked with jason lake before and knew it was coming. not sure why he acted surprised on stream
SixPackAbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United States160 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 21:15:48
June 22 2011 21:12 GMT
#186

This wasn't what happened and you could get that information by reading the first few pages of the thread. Don't spread misinformation.

I read the first few pages, i changed it after i saw destiny's response. And as it says in my post, it was what i *thought* probably happened. A guy signs contract without reading, finds out contractual obligations are not going to mesh with his stances on things, and breaks contract without saying anything. I had no way of knowing he was pressured into signing, or that he thought he would be fucking over all of root if he didn't.

As I said, He is a good guy and has a fun stream, I hope he finds a team that won't make him change.
fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
June 22 2011 21:12 GMT
#187
If he wants to be a professional gamer he has to be professional. That's all there is to it. If he can't be than he shouldn't look for a team to pick him up or to compete professionally. I think what he is more than anything else is an entertainer. I doubt his ability will outweigh his questionable behaviour in a team's evaluation of him, so I don't see any big teams picking him up. If he were a top tier talent then teams would look past it, but there are tons of people just as good as destiny without teams, or on no name teams, that would be fine with following contractual obligations.
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parabs
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada68 Posts
June 22 2011 21:13 GMT
#188
I think thats a fair response by Destiny. Kind of sucks when you feel obligated to sign the contract to support your former team, but in the end don't feel strongly about it.

Half a day really isn't enough time to go through a contract like that.
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
June 22 2011 21:13 GMT
#189
On June 23 2011 06:08 iNcontroL wrote:
destiny's response is legit I am sorry I speculated otherwise, gl destiny ~! ~ ~ ~


Word of the day......

prej·u·dice   

–noun
1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
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MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
June 22 2011 21:13 GMT
#190
On June 23 2011 06:11 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 05:44 TylerThaCreator wrote:
probably has something to do with his NASL open disaster vs capoch?


What happened with NASL?


He lost in like the round of 256 to some kid who did this in base (destinys base) warp in thing twice. Then proceeded to tell him about he good he was at all inning. It was fun.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 22 2011 21:13 GMT
#191
On June 23 2011 06:11 Destiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 06:06 On_Slaught wrote:
On June 23 2011 06:02 Destiny wrote:
Sorry, I don't want to start any drama or anything, so here's my quip of the story

TL:DR : I signed the contract, I broke the contact, that's a pretty douche move.

Basically there'd been talks of ROOT/Complexity merging for a while, to relieve stress from catz/drewbie, which is cool, it gives them more time to play, etc...

One day, I got a message pretty much saying "hey, that contract is due tonight, you gotta sign it today". I pretty much had half a day to decide whether or not to sign, and it seemed like if I didn't sign, the deal would fall through for the rest of the team. I didn't want to mess up everyone's opportunities to move on with their career just because I felt uncomfortable, and there was nothing -too- objectionable in the contract, so I signed it.

In the following days, I had more time to think about it, and the more I turned it over in my head, the more problems I found with the arrangement, and the more reasons I found not to be associated with a major business SC2 team, at least not at this moment in time. I talked a long time to Catz, and had a few words with Jason, and eventually settled on the conclusion that I wouldn't actually be joining.


Add to the OP please.

I'd love to ask whether or not you knew you were going to get removed before this post (meaning your reaction on your stream was a troll) but I wouldn't expect an honest answer either way.

Well, of course, I kind of said I wasn't joining...


Fair enough. Good luck finding a new team.
Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
June 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#192
I watch destiny's stream a lot, and nothing gets said there that any gamer doesn't say/hear a thousand times a day. I don't know what kind of sponsor would exist that would simultaneously sponsor a gaming team and have a problem with destiny.
DuckS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
June 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#193
Destiny can find another team soon, i'm sure. Destiny is Destiny - he's been on his stream and has had his stream way before he had anything to do with complexity. He joins the organization and suddenly he can't do what he's always done? It's a no brainer, honestly.

"You foiled us this time Americans, but your liberty will not protect your Marilyn Monroe forever - our Queen must FEED!" - Deleuze
creamyy
Profile Joined October 2010
United States46 Posts
June 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#194
I would imagine thats based on who you face. If you face someone who won the entire event in the first round does that make you bad?
Ambition is never content, even on the summit of greatness.
gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
June 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#195
Destiny makes most of his money from streaming. He's not going to jeopardize alienating his fans and income by adhering to some code of conduct expected by his team. It was stupid for complexity to have signed him to begin with.

As team management, they should do a little more research into players they plan on signing. I don't know how much communication there was between Destiny and CoL, and what the expectations were, but from this news, it's pretty clear there wasn't sufficient communication between both parties.
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
June 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#196
What I don't understand is that there are two extremely separate things stated in the OP. Destiny "didn't want to be part of a big organization" and Destiny's "behaviour opposed some of the values that coL has stood for since 2003."

Which one is it? The first bit really doesn't make sense to me, since if he didn't want to be part of coL, he wouldn't have signed in the first place. I read his response, which was basically "I didn't read the contract because I didn't have enough time," and while that's probably true, then the first part of the coL statement is essentially contradictory. Did he choose to leave because he finally re-read his contract and didn't like it, or did they part ways since they didn't like his behavior?
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Cudaflu
Profile Joined July 2010
33 Posts
June 22 2011 21:15 GMT
#197
Well, we have conflicting stories now with Destiny saying he left/was never a part of the team and Complexity saying they released him.

Is this just a legal thing where he has to be released because he did sign the contract?
AtlasJQ
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada138 Posts
June 22 2011 21:16 GMT
#198
On June 23 2011 06:13 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 06:08 iNcontroL wrote:
destiny's response is legit I am sorry I speculated otherwise, gl destiny ~! ~ ~ ~


Word of the day......

prej·u·dice   

–noun
1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.



Say what you will about iNcontroL and his strong opinions I've never gotten the impression that he wouldn't admit a mistake if he made one. Its one of the reasons I hold him in high regard. I honestly believe he hopes for the best for Destiny (and most decent people in general).

I'd like to believe that most of the Pros actually care for each other as fellow competitors and support each other through good and bad times.

An old schooler from Katans Lair and Mavens Haven - | - Fav SC accomplishment: Beating SSamjang in the first i2e2. Yes, that SSamjang. I am old :(
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
June 22 2011 21:16 GMT
#199
On June 23 2011 06:08 krews wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 06:01 -_- wrote:
Destiny is much more popular and influential in the Starcraft 2 community than coL. Their loss.


cool, but complexity is way more influential in the competitive sc2 scene. which is what they're aiming for


I'm not going insult the coL roster, but Destiny is of comparable skill with almost every member of their roster excluding drewbie.
Cheekzz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States15 Posts
June 22 2011 21:16 GMT
#200
Solo Destiny is best Destiny.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.”
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