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Slardar
Canada7593 Posts
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:00 Jayrod wrote: He was an acquisition as part of a deal... its like when these wow guilds acquire each other to get stronger.. .you always have to take on some jobbers and then you begin immediately looking for reasons to get rid of them without rocking the boat. Destiny is a jobber... he's an okay player, but to be honest its not worth the headache trying to rein him in. Like, can anyone EG having a player like idra, minus the talent? IdrA is popular DESPITE his attitude while Destiny is popular DUE TO his attitude I'm pretty sure Idra is popular because of his attitude as well. Idra rage is the only reason I ever heard of him, and even got interested in the Western sc2 scene, otherwise I'd just be purely following GSL. | ||
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Traven
United States160 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:02 Destiny wrote: Sorry, I don't want to start any drama or anything, so here's my quip of the story TL:DR : I signed the contract, I broke the contact, that's a pretty douche move. Basically there'd been talks of ROOT/Complexity merging for a while, to relieve stress from catz/drewbie, which is cool, it gives them more time to play, etc... One day, I got a message pretty much saying "hey, that contract is due tonight, you gotta sign it today". I pretty much had half a day to decide whether or not to sign, and it seemed like if I didn't sign, the deal would fall through for the rest of the team. I didn't want to mess up everyone's opportunities to move on with their career just because I felt uncomfortable, and there was nothing -too- objectionable in the contract, so I signed it. In the following days, I had more time to think about it, and the more I turned it over in my head, the more problems I found with the arrangement, and the more reasons I found not to be associated with a major business SC2 team, at least not at this moment in time. I talked a long time to Catz, and had a few words with Jason, and eventually settled on the conclusion that I wouldn't actually be joining. I respect your decision Destiny. We will still be cheering you on from the sidelines at any event you participate in. Keep up the good work and don't stop improving. You have come so far from when you started. | ||
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pavement ist rad
United States226 Posts
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:02 Destiny wrote: Sorry, I don't want to start any drama or anything, so here's my quip of the story TL:DR : I signed the contract, I broke the contact, that's a pretty douche move. Basically there'd been talks of ROOT/Complexity merging for a while, to relieve stress from catz/drewbie, which is cool, it gives them more time to play, etc... One day, I got a message pretty much saying "hey, that contract is due tonight, you gotta sign it today". I pretty much had half a day to decide whether or not to sign, and it seemed like if I didn't sign, the deal would fall through for the rest of the team. I didn't want to mess up everyone's opportunities to move on with their career just because I felt uncomfortable, and there was nothing -too- objectionable in the contract, so I signed it. In the following days, I had more time to think about it, and the more I turned it over in my head, the more problems I found with the arrangement, and the more reasons I found not to be associated with a major business SC2 team, at least not at this moment in time. I talked a long time to Catz, and had a few words with Jason, and eventually settled on the conclusion that I wouldn't actually be joining. Seems reasonable enough. Thanks for letting us know and before any real drama is started around whatever by one of the crazies on this forum. | ||
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:01 -_- wrote: Destiny is much more popular and influential in the Starcraft 2 community than coL. Their loss. But at the end of the day they arent trying to be popular or influential (at least it isnt their main goal). They want to win. If they just wanted to be popular they'd sign Husky and TotalBiscuit. Destiny is more of an entertainer than a pro player, and really good at that. I think this is the right choice for him and for coL. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On June 23 2011 05:55 Torte de Lini wrote: Why is it horrible? It could be wrong, but horrible; you're negatively seeing it. I'm basing it off my own experience and previous picks/choices made by VT. Regardless, I think its wrong, seeing as Pokebunny is a part of the VT team and will know the inside out of his team. | ||
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Mairu
United States222 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:02 Destiny wrote: Sorry, I don't want to start any drama or anything, so here's my quip of the story TL:DR : I signed the contract, I broke the contact, that's a pretty douche move. Basically there'd been talks of ROOT/Complexity merging for a while, to relieve stress from catz/drewbie, which is cool, it gives them more time to play, etc... One day, I got a message pretty much saying "hey, that contract is due tonight, you gotta sign it today". I pretty much had half a day to decide whether or not to sign, and it seemed like if I didn't sign, the deal would fall through for the rest of the team. I didn't want to mess up everyone's opportunities to move on with their career just because I felt uncomfortable, and there was nothing -too- objectionable in the contract, so I signed it. In the following days, I had more time to think about it, and the more I turned it over in my head, the more problems I found with the arrangement, and the more reasons I found not to be associated with a major business SC2 team, at least not at this moment in time. I talked a long time to Catz, and had a few words with Jason, and eventually settled on the conclusion that I wouldn't actually be joining. Someone put this in the OP so both sides are heard by all :O | ||
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chesshaha
United States1117 Posts
GL to Destiny, we need interesting characters in the SC2 community, that's why he has so many fans. Keep doing what your doing, good things will follow. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
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ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
Personally I don't hate or support destiny, but I have to say it's probably a good thing. If he struggles to find a team it will make sure other players don't start making ridiculously unprofessional obnoxious statements, even if it is on their stream. Best of luck to him, I have a feeling he will need it. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:02 Destiny wrote: Sorry, I don't want to start any drama or anything, so here's my quip of the story TL:DR : I signed the contract, I broke the contact, that's a pretty douche move. Basically there'd been talks of ROOT/Complexity merging for a while, to relieve stress from catz/drewbie, which is cool, it gives them more time to play, etc... One day, I got a message pretty much saying "hey, that contract is due tonight, you gotta sign it today". I pretty much had half a day to decide whether or not to sign, and it seemed like if I didn't sign, the deal would fall through for the rest of the team. I didn't want to mess up everyone's opportunities to move on with their career just because I felt uncomfortable, and there was nothing -too- objectionable in the contract, so I signed it. In the following days, I had more time to think about it, and the more I turned it over in my head, the more problems I found with the arrangement, and the more reasons I found not to be associated with a major business SC2 team, at least not at this moment in time. I talked a long time to Catz, and had a few words with Jason, and eventually settled on the conclusion that I wouldn't actually be joining. Add to the OP please. I'd love to ask whether or not you knew you were going to get removed before this post (meaning your reaction on your stream was a troll) but I wouldn't expect an honest answer either way. | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On June 23 2011 05:57 Zzoram wrote: There's no such thing as personal when you represent a corporation. Do you think if Wolf Blitzer was a gay bashing mysogynist on Twitter and claimed it was his personal belief, that it wouldn't reflect poorly on CNN? What I mean is he wasn't on, say, iNcontroL's stream, he wasn't on NASL, he wasn't in GSL bm'ing in chat, instead he was on HIS stream with HIS name in it, where it doesn't and hasn't even said coL. His ladder name is still ROOTDestiny, his stream says "Destiny", etc. | ||
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SixPackAbs
United States160 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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lim1017
Canada1278 Posts
On June 23 2011 05:54 apm66 wrote: I saw that coming. I'm sure I know what he wants and I'm sure he knows what's best for him. Did you even read what complexity wrote? what does what complexity wrote have to do with how he reacted on stream? maybe they had the talk but he didnt think they would go though it or w/e. | ||
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Rasmussen
Denmark67 Posts
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Immanis
United States21 Posts
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j4ckd4v13z
United Kingdom98 Posts
1) Didn't pick Kiwi and Slush - Arguably the two best players 2) Kicked Destiny in a "BM" way by not informing him - most influential player User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:04 KimJongChill wrote: I'm pretty sure Idra is popular because of his attitude as well. Idra rage is the only reason I ever heard of him, and even got interested in the Western sc2 scene, otherwise I'd just be purely following GSL. Idra was the only American to stay in Korea for 2+ years training with a Korean pro team, and has been the top American SC2 player since the beta. That alone would make him famous even without the rage. | ||
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AzurewinD
United States569 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:02 Destiny wrote: Sorry, I don't want to start any drama or anything, so here's my quip of the story TL:DR : I signed the contract, I broke the contact, that's a pretty douche move. Basically there'd been talks of ROOT/Complexity merging for a while, to relieve stress from catz/drewbie, which is cool, it gives them more time to play, etc... One day, I got a message pretty much saying "hey, that contract is due tonight, you gotta sign it today". I pretty much had half a day to decide whether or not to sign, and it seemed like if I didn't sign, the deal would fall through for the rest of the team. I didn't want to mess up everyone's opportunities to move on with their career just because I felt uncomfortable, and there was nothing -too- objectionable in the contract, so I signed it. In the following days, I had more time to think about it, and the more I turned it over in my head, the more problems I found with the arrangement, and the more reasons I found not to be associated with a major business SC2 team, at least not at this moment in time. I talked a long time to Catz, and had a few words with Jason, and eventually settled on the conclusion that I wouldn't actually be joining. Seems reasonable enough. No harm there, besides what's been already expressed. Despite Mr. Bonnell’s agreement to exercise solid judgment and professionalism in his trade, some of the polarizing opinions being expressed on his stream were in direct opposition the values compLexity has stood for since 2003. This behavior made our decision clear and Mr. Bonnell has been released from any and all contractual obligations So what is this all about? [edit: worded too strongly] Why is that relevant at all to this discussion? Seems like coL is shooting a man when he's down. So suddenly its all about his behavior on stream and not about his apprehensions of joining a major organization? If Steven wanted to leave for whatever reasons are his own, then thats that. Whats the need to bring up "polarizing opinions being expressed on his stream"? | ||
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