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It is highly recommended that your read this entire thread - at least until page 10. If you make uninformed opinions that have been answered by the thread, col management or Destiny, you will be banned.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
June 22 2011 21:01 GMT
#121
Destiny is much more popular and influential in the Starcraft 2 community than coL. Their loss.
Argolis
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada211 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#122
Good.
This probably won't impact Destiny in any major way. Besides brewing up more interest in him and his stream. He might actually be walking away from this more popular than he was before.

His income is based off of his streaming, which he has accomplished from day one without high profile tournament results or the help of a famous team/sponsors behind him.

Steven cannot and will not be part of a team that asks him to be politically correct. If this topic came up in any discussions and no agreement was made, this release was expected from both parties

Colonels has just gained an anti-fan.

Destiny
Profile Joined May 2009
United States280 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#123
Sorry, I don't want to start any drama or anything, so here's my quip of the story

TL:DR : I signed the contract, I broke the contact, that's a pretty douche move.

Basically there'd been talks of ROOT/Complexity merging for a while, to relieve stress from catz/drewbie, which is cool, it gives them more time to play, etc...

One day, I got a message pretty much saying "hey, that contract is due tonight, you gotta sign it today". I pretty much had half a day to decide whether or not to sign, and it seemed like if I didn't sign, the deal would fall through for the rest of the team. I didn't want to mess up everyone's opportunities to move on with their career just because I felt uncomfortable, and there was nothing -too- objectionable in the contract, so I signed it.

In the following days, I had more time to think about it, and the more I turned it over in my head, the more problems I found with the arrangement, and the more reasons I found not to be associated with a major business SC2 team, at least not at this moment in time. I talked a long time to Catz, and had a few words with Jason, and eventually settled on the conclusion that I wouldn't actually be joining.
To achieve perfection is to sacrifice growth.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#124
Sounds like they just wanted an excuse to get rid of him because he's not a top player.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Omnipresent
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States871 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#125
On June 23 2011 05:57 SovietHammer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 05:51 jlake02 wrote:
On June 23 2011 05:46 Enox wrote:
wow, destiny just found out about that himself on his stream. he didnt know... like wtf!? how can they announce it before informing him



I can assure you that I have personally spoken with Steven over the past week. I sincerely wanted him to remain on the team but we were given no real option. He refused to participate with the team. Also, it was our full intention on allowing him to speak his mind on his stream but within certain boundaries of professionalism.

I spoke with him personally before this was released and he knew it was coming.

I think he's a good guy but it just didn't work out at this time. I wish him the very best in the future.


We'll parts of this are clearly false. We obviously don't have perfect information but I watched destiny practice with a variety of col members on his stream throughout the last week.

"certain boundaries of professionalism." could mean anything. This pickup was in the midst of destiny very publicly announcing his beliefs on language, and if the contract was written without that in mind it was not intended to succeed in the first place.

Before you call someone a liar, take a step back. Occasionally practicing with teammates doesn't necessarily constitute participating with the team. You don't know what they asked him to do that he refused.
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#126
On June 23 2011 06:00 deerpark87 wrote:
Liquid`Destiny sounds about right


Are you kidding me...TL.net encompasses Destiny's portion of the pie...no point in contracting with him, especially because they're bigger than coL and therefore will be even more stricter about sponsors and such...plus Destiny is not that good of a pro player.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
pavement ist rad
Profile Joined January 2007
United States226 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#127
I think a lot of people here are being unkind towards Destiny. Sure he has his attitude but if you listen to him speak he's quite well spoken and views his stream as his own personal domain. It seems that he is a reasonable and intelligent person otherwise. Plus, he's gotten way better recently. I mean, he's GM now and is doing well!
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#128
IIRC Destiny played decently at the last MLG? I dunno, he's definitely skilled enough to be on a decent team but his stream behavior probably destroys any of those chances :T
:)
Eduro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States88 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#129
Destiny's thoughts...

http://imgur.com/Wfc9g
ultramafia
Profile Joined August 2010
221 Posts
June 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#130
On June 23 2011 06:02 Argolis wrote:
Good.
This probably won't impact Destiny in any major way. Besides brewing up more interest in him and his stream. He might actually be walking away from this more popular than he was before.

His income is based off of his streaming, which he has accomplished from day one without high profile tournament results or the help of a famous team/sponsors behind him.

Steven cannot and will not be part of a team that asks him to be politically correct. If this topic came up in any discussions and no agreement was made, this release was expected from both parties

Colonels has just gained an anti-fan.



you said it. I will no longer support Colonels!!!
毒爆虫 | CJ Entus fight
Refused.
Profile Joined March 2011
United States108 Posts
June 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#131
So complexity goes from a mediocre NA team with some entertaining personalities to now just a mediocre team.

On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#132
On June 23 2011 06:00 tsuxiit wrote:
I wish Complexity would give a real explanation for why it didn't allow Destiny on the team. Just two nights ago on Destiny's stream (I believe Catz was streaming at the same time) I heard Cruncher call Catz a nigger faggot mexican beaner, as a joke. How can you kick out Destiny for not watering down his speech if you don't care about that? It doesn't sound like you're making your players into professionals, more like you're just hiding them from the public eye.


Did you even read the OP or any of the responses by col in this thread? It is more than just his language on his stream. He literally didn't do things that were in his contract. He blatantly ignored the terms of agreement he agreed upon when he joined the team. He broke his contract = bye bye.
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
June 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#133
On June 23 2011 06:02 AndAgain wrote:
Sounds like they just wanted an excuse to get rid of him because he's not a top player.


Might want to take another look at their full roster...
newnew008
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4 Posts
June 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#134
I wish Destiny and Complexity the best of luck. Though,I feel Complexity should have acted more professionally with this. They just released this post to the world, and Destiny wasn't even aware of it until his chat told him during the stream. Can't wait to see what team might pick him up.
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
June 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#135
Destiny never seemed to be a person who would censor himself for the sake of professionalism.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
June 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#136
Destiny has spoken. End drama.
maelstromgod
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada9 Posts
June 22 2011 21:04 GMT
#137
Get your own team man.

Go Team BURNSICK.

Cash Monies broham
A Terran a zerg and a protoss walk into a bar.....
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 22 2011 21:04 GMT
#138
Destiny kicked off a pretty mannered time!
Nothing but more exposure and "badass" nature association to him.


Incoming more viewers!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Moldwood
Profile Joined April 2011
United States280 Posts
June 22 2011 21:04 GMT
#139
These teams need to just put out the message that the views and opinions of their PLAYERS do not exactly reflect the views and opinions of the TEAM. This is an incredibly basic and necessary concept for any large organization. Or you can run around trying to slap EVERYONE on the wrist EVERY TIME they say something which you disagree with. GL ----- HF. Nuff said. Keep being yourself Destiny, I personally would never want you to act any other way, although it does suck that he probably just lost most of his income x (
"You drone I void ray I win" --oGsMC
CookiesAndCakeIsGood
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom5 Posts
June 22 2011 21:04 GMT
#140
Sounds like they just wanted an excuse to get rid of him because he's not a top player.

But he is...
I herd u like muta's. /trollface
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