EPTSeason 3 Ladder Pool Updates - Page 57
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ItsMartyz
Netherlands17 Posts
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Kraugy
United States7 Posts
On June 21 2011 01:11 sixfour wrote: jesus why so many 4 player maps in the 1v1 pool Are you scared to macro? I think I'm the opposite, I want bigger maps than these.How can I swarm as Zerg without more bases. They do look pretty good in my opinion though. | ||
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NineofClubs
United States7 Posts
Why not have an a la carte style menu of maps that you will play on ladder. Instead of only allowing you to pick certain maps to not play they should let you select the ones that you want to play. Along with this they could add a feature that is like a set of maps that are standard for a given community: like a GSL map set or MLG map set. So If I want to ladder and practice for a given tournament then I just select their maps set off I go. Many of these sets would overlap so it would not be hard to find games. With this kind of system it would give you far more information about the players than the current system does. The only down side I could see is some people choose like Steppes of War, Slag Pits, Desert Oasis, etc.. and never play games. But this is only a loss for this player who is not playing relevant maps. | ||
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Indrium
United States2236 Posts
On June 27 2011 08:45 Kraugy wrote: Are you scared to macro? I think I'm the opposite, I want bigger maps than these.How can I swarm as Zerg without more bases. They do look pretty good in my opinion though. See, but the four player component hurts those maps imo. On half the spawns, you cannot take a third against someone. You have to either expand toward them or expand to an almost undefendable location. Some of these maps wouldn't be as bad if they were only two player with only cross spawns. | ||
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lotny
Poland154 Posts
On June 28 2011 08:28 NineofClubs wrote: I did not want to create a new thread for what im about to say but it does have to ladder pool updates. I am at a loss to why blizzard continues to shove the maps that they make into the ladder pool while leaving out many other very good maps. It was nice to see the GSL maps added in because it is what most people want to play. Why not have an a la carte style menu of maps that you will play on ladder. Instead of only allowing you to pick certain maps to not play they should let you select the ones that you want to play. Along with this they could add a feature that is like a set of maps that are standard for a given community: like a GSL map set or MLG map set. So If I want to ladder and practice for a given tournament then I just select their maps set off I go. Many of these sets would overlap so it would not be hard to find games. With this kind of system it would give you far more information about the players than the current system does. The only down side I could see is some people choose like Steppes of War, Slag Pits, Desert Oasis, etc.. and never play games. But this is only a loss for this player who is not playing relevant maps. I feel the same way. I'd like to have an option of picking maps from a larger pool instead of the veto system. I'd like to practice tournament maps on ladder instead of wasting my time with creating custom games and finding opponents. I think it'd be too much to ask for seeing as they still haven't got rid of the autostart in public custom games... | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On June 27 2011 08:45 Kraugy wrote: Are you scared to macro? I think I'm the opposite, I want bigger maps than these.How can I swarm as Zerg without more bases. They do look pretty good in my opinion though. You should look at those bases on those maps and realize that they aren't "macro" maps. Hard to get thirds normally transition into who's 2 base allin is stronger. | ||
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Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On June 22 2011 18:01 Ribbon wrote: This is one of my biggest problems with Brood War, too. Python Python Python Python Destination Python Python Python Destination Python Python Python. I live in fear of the day TL determines the One True Map and that's all anyone plays. The only map I play on is Fighting Spirit, and I love it! | ||
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Rarak
Australia631 Posts
On June 22 2011 16:50 sleepingdog wrote: Since this pops up every 2-3 pages: even though you have a point, the TL-community has been REALLY good at calling out crappy maps. Slag pits and backdoor gulch have been denounced to be awful 1-2 days after their IMAGES were available. Pros have immediately started to critizise the very open natural of typhon peaks, and this exactly has proven to be a problem in many PvZ games. On the contrary, people have taken one glimpse at shakuras and "decided" that it will be an awsome map. To be honest, I think the TL-community is competent enough to at least make a "probably good - probably bad" prognosis. And even if it may seem that Blizz maps are automaticly "hated" on while custom-made-maps are automaticly less critizised: I'd bet my sc2 key that if you let people vote on good maps that should be used on ladder without them knowing which were from Blizz and which custom-made, that the custom-made ones would win. EDIT: I have to say I LOVE this comparison, well done, Sir. Blizz should really take into account that even noobs might start to enjoy beautiful, carefully designed maps even if it means they aren't as succesful on them. I remember the thread when Shakuras was being introduced and it was being trashed the same as these ones are. | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On June 28 2011 11:27 Rarak wrote: I remember the thread when Shakuras was being introduced and it was being trashed the same as these ones are. and shakuras was terrible? hence why they revamped it | ||
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
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Deleted User 108965
1096 Posts
On June 28 2011 11:29 Falcor wrote: and shakuras was terrible? hence why they revamped it the main thing they revamped was the backdoor rocks, which actually was not one of the main complaints when the map first came out. point being, its hard to tell how maps will be until they are actually played on | ||
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MobiusOne
United States106 Posts
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Vinx
Canada259 Posts
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Quintum_
United States669 Posts
Mapmaker 1 "So how many expansions can we add rocks too" Mapmaker 2 "At least 80% of them, also a lot of these ramps seem to be lacking rocks, I think we need to add" Mapmaker 1 " Brilliant, you can never go wring with adding rocks" XP Maybe i am being to hard on the maps though, maybe i might enjoy them once i play them. Really dont think so though | ||
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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
Do we know what maps they're taking out? Hopefully it's: Backwater Gulch Delta Quadrant (lol, I can't believe this is still in the map pool) Slag Pits Typhon Peaks Well, I just hope I can thumbs down enough of these to only have to play one or two of the awful maps in the pool. | ||
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:21 Lobotomist wrote: The last 1v1 map and the first 2v2 map seem solid, but the others seem full of the same crap that people have been complaining about since release: too short of rush distances in certain positions, hard to take third bases, too many destructible rocks. As a zerg player, the third map has me especially worried. How exactly am I supposed to do anything in close positions on that? Why don't they add more GSL maps, maybe even without adding extra destructible rocks (tm)? Do we know what maps they're taking out? Hopefully it's: Backwater Gulch Delta Quadrant (lol, I can't believe this is still in the map pool) Slag Pits Typhon Peaks Well, I just hope I can thumbs down enough of these to only have to play one or two of the awful maps in the pool. I seem to remember hearing that it's going to be scrap station, delta, slag, and backwater being removed. I don't have a source, but I think that's what they're doing. | ||
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escruting
Spain229 Posts
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Railgan
Switzerland1509 Posts
On June 28 2011 19:39 escruting wrote: Am i the only one that has a lot of macro games on delta quadrant? the backdoor base encourages macro/turtle games and also there are a lot of golds and other mains to expand. I find it more macro heavy than metalopolis or shattered and i almost always have >20 mins macro games on it. As Toss/terran yes as a Zerg no | ||
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