I like Meta w/o close spawn whether it favors Zerg in late game or not. It just a really good map when you take control of the game. Harassing, macro even better with the gold. So sad for such an interesting map.

Heavenly

2172 Posts

July 26 2011 00:05 GMT

#1402

On July 26 2011 06:26 butter wrote:

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Sixty percent of what . . .

...wins?

IPA

United States3206 Posts

July 26 2011 00:06 GMT

#1403

On July 26 2011 07:12 Zaphid wrote:

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The map is old, boring and played to hell and back, however people fear what it might be replaced with. I simply don't believe that Blizzard can make a good map anymore.

Oh and of course it was imbalanced when zerg had 33% chance to get an autoloss vs competent people and PvT was basically 2gate colossus into hidden expansion most of the time for me, because 3 rax was given.

Not sure what kind of games you're playing on Metal; mine are never "boring". Put simply, it's a fantastic map, regardless of whether or not it's "old". Meanwhile, Backwater Gulch stays and we get a bunch of 2 base timing maps. Yay "fresh and new"!!! -_-

Yoshi Kirishima

United States10366 Posts

July 26 2011 05:04 GMT

#1404

On July 26 2011 09:06 IPA wrote:

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And also, they are talking about 60% win on the no-close spawn versions. Because surely the highest levels don't play with close spawns anymore.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

July 26 2011 05:05 GMT

#1405

For the new Lava map one in 1v1, can the natural be abused by tanks behind the rocks.

How do you overcome this?

FryktSkyene

United States1327 Posts

July 26 2011 05:07 GMT

#1406

On July 26 2011 14:05 Torte de Lini wrote:
For the new Lava map one in 1v1, can the natural be abused by tanks behind the rocks.

How do you overcome this?

You don't.

Theres a lot of new maps with stupid tank spots that can hit certain things (hatchs, gas gysers, etc)

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

July 26 2011 05:21 GMT

#1407

On July 26 2011 14:07 FryktSkyene wrote:

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You don't.

Theres a lot of new maps with stupid tank spots that can hit certain things (hatchs, gas gysers, etc)

I knew it could be abused ): fuck

BEARDiaguz

Australia2362 Posts

July 26 2011 14:38 GMT

#1408

Those same rocks also make it impossible to rax expand in tvp. Having to defend 2 hugely different locations AND a ridge you can slap a pylon on one side of and warp in from the other side AND I have to ensure they don't get up the ramp means 4 and 6 gate strategies seem impossible to hold off with bio play. So either I learn an inferior style (1 basing or marine/tank) or I thumb it down.

Thumbed down. Hard.

Shade_FR

France378 Posts

July 26 2011 14:44 GMT

#1409

On July 26 2011 14:05 Torte de Lini wrote:
For the new Lava map one in 1v1, can the natural be abused by tanks behind the rocks.

How do you overcome this?

I would fear the vertical close position instead of tanks on a cliff... did you play on it ? The NaturalToNatural distance is worst than Steppe of War.

This map is bad and everyone (at least Zerg players) will ban it.

Shadrak

United States490 Posts

July 26 2011 15:41 GMT

#1410

Sad to see Metal go, but the other 3 maps removed were my 3 vetoes. Gives me a chance to downvote all the new maps if they work out as bad as they appear.

novabossa

United States350 Posts

July 26 2011 15:55 GMT

#1411

Now I can finally downvote Tal'Darim! Woot! (*** pvp on that map....seriously)