I'm getting so sick of Blizzard. It seems like they don't listen to their community at all. These map choices are an great example of that. They choose to keep some crap maps but they remove metal, a map which brings epic games every tournament just because some bronze players cry about it?! My god Blizzard, wtf happened.

Also maps like crossfire, crevasse and some GSL maps are way better than the current map pool and they are really balanced and well made. But no, blizzard is like 'our game, our maps' and chooses to add some shit maps that look almost exactly the same and have fucking rocks everywhere. (it seems like Blizzard is addicted to rocks)

When will Blizzard, instead of creating some shit maps and throwing some stupid polls about a zealot at their site, listen to their fans who acually PLAY the game?! I'm really disappointed in Blizzard's recent choices and I wonder if they have the slightest idea what they're doing and what a good map should look like. It's THEIR maps that are imbalanced, not the one of GSL and other really good map creators so why not accept their maps?!

Bagi

Germany6799 Posts

July 25 2011 21:24 GMT

#1388

On July 26 2011 06:18 OldManZerg wrote:

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Right, they do all their balancing via ladder statistics that take into account what's happening in the bronze league.

They specifically mention that zerg has a 60%+ win ratio on metal at the highest levels of play. What does bronze league have to do with that?

Removing close positions would be a crutch, and it would probably boost zerg win rates even further. The map is popular but I can fully support Blizzard's reasoning for removing it.

Shade_FR

France378 Posts

July 25 2011 21:24 GMT

#1389

Sooooo....

To be removed from current map pool :

- Metalopolis (official)
- Scrap Station (official)
- Delta Quadrant (not official, but they made even jokes about it in the fake patch notes for April 1st)
- Slag Pits (not official, but removing Metalopolis for close position and balance issue without removing Slag Pits makes no sense)

There are some issues if this become true :

- Some of the current PTR maps are worst than Tal'darim and Metalopolis
- Xel'Naga Caverns would be the only 2 slots 1v1 maps.

Let's cross our fingers...

edit: I miss-read, thanks for pointing this out.

butter

United States785 Posts

July 25 2011 21:26 GMT

#1390

along with Scrap Station and Tal’darim Altar, has a heavy (60%+) bias toward zerg at the highest levels of play

Sixty percent of what . . .

Diamond

United States10796 Posts

July 25 2011 21:26 GMT

#1391

On July 26 2011 06:24 ShadeOfDraG wrote:
Sooooo....

To be removed from current map pool :

- Metalopolis (official)
- Scrap Station (official)
- Tal'darim Altar (official)
- Delta Quadrant (not official, but they made even jokes about it in the fake patch notes for April 1st)
- Slag Pits (not official, but removing Metalopolis for close position and balance issue without removing Slag Pits makes no sense)

So they will remove those 5 maps and adding the 4 new maps ? There are some issues if this become true :

- They remove more maps than they add.
- Some of the current PTR maps are worst than Tal'darim and Metalopolis
- Xel'Naga Caverns would be the only 2 slots 1v1 maps.

Let's cross our fingers...

Where's it official Tal'Darim is going? I missed that apparently.

KimJongChill

United States6429 Posts

July 25 2011 21:26 GMT

#1392

Did the maps get new names? The new thread about the season 3 map pool says some weird stuff about nerazim crpyt, and abyssal caverns, or something to that effect.

Bagi

Germany6799 Posts

July 25 2011 21:27 GMT

#1393

I think you missed the other Blizzard post, Tal'darim is staying but the other maps you mentioned are being removed.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2878401533#1

Shade_FR

France378 Posts

July 25 2011 21:32 GMT

#1394

I think you missed the other Blizzard post, Tal'darim is staying but the other maps you mentioned are being removed.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2878401533#1

Thanks !

Swiftly

Iceland160 Posts

July 25 2011 21:33 GMT

#1395

1st and 3rd maps hardly have a third baseso riddicioulus

las91

United States5080 Posts

July 25 2011 21:36 GMT

#1396

The new maps are even more oriented towards 1 and 2 base timings than the first season ladder maps (remember jungle basin anyone?). We'll see what happens, but getting rid of DQ/Slag/Scrap is a start folks, they could have kept those and removed, oh, idk, Shakuras or something. They've added one GSL map already, they'll get around to adding more I'm sure.

Exarl25

1887 Posts

July 25 2011 22:00 GMT

#1397

Metalopolis is too predictable? I have absolutely no idea what they mean by that, are they going to give us some clarification on that statement?

Metalopolis without close spawns is one of the best maps we have. It's used in just about every tournament I can think of, it's loved by everyone, I have never heard anyone complain about it being unbalanced and it's got a long history of providing us with incredible, incredible games.

Why on earth would they remove it? Too predictable? What the fuck does that mean Blizzard?

Seriously does anyone have a problem with tournament modified Metalopolis?

Ownos

United States2147 Posts

July 25 2011 22:10 GMT

#1398

They said eliminating the close positions would make guessing spawn positions too predictable and vulnerable to cheese.

Zaphid

Czech Republic1860 Posts

July 25 2011 22:12 GMT

#1399

On July 26 2011 07:00 Exarl25 wrote:
Metalopolis is too predictable? I have absolutely no idea what they mean by that, are they going to give us some clarification on that statement?

Metalopolis without close spawns is one of the best maps we have. It's used in just about every tournament I can think of, it's loved by everyone, I have never heard anyone complain about it being unbalanced and it's got a long history of providing us with incredible, incredible games.

Why on earth would they remove it? Too predictable? What the fuck does that mean Blizzard?

Seriously does anyone have a problem with tournament modified Metalopolis?

The map is old, boring and played to hell and back, however people fear what it might be replaced with. I simply don't believe that Blizzard can make a good map anymore.

Oh and of course it was imbalanced when zerg had 33% chance to get an autoloss vs competent people and PvT was basically 2gate colossus into hidden expansion most of the time for me, because 3 rax was given.