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On May 11 2011 03:30 hahaimhenry wrote:
After the amount of adversity IM went through (being a nobody, having no sponsors, working their asses off to get where they are, trying to get a hold of the foreign scene), I'm disappointed with this. I can understand their method in choosing the teams but it seems like they're just trying to find ways to screw them over.
Think about it like this, they've already worked so hard to get their team where they are now, but now they're not even allowed to join a tournament that's basically showed us some of the best games we've EVER seen. GSTL games were better than those from the actual GSL. Now they have to work even harder than they already had before - I feel like it's not fair.
Why not put in a system where GSTL performances have a little to do with who plays in the next season? Maybe have the top 4 teams be in the next season for sure or something?
The system rewards teams that have a deep roster. IM has a few amazing players, but does not have a deep roster. This system has been in place for all GSTL seasons and is well known by all teams involved. IM hasn't done a good enough job recruiting top talent and training their Code B players (Yongwha/Seed/Yoda) so that they can qualify for Code A.
As a team IM doesn't really impress.
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sad story with IM , will the new map be playable on EU bnet ?
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On May 11 2011 03:36 ZasZ. wrote:
As a team IM doesn't really impress.
Two consecutive team league finals not impressive to you ZasZ?
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On May 11 2011 03:39 Airship wrote:Two consecutive team league finals not impressive to you ZasZ?
As someone posted before. You can get to finals in 2 games... So no its isn't as impressive as it sound.
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I understand the argument against IM, but I think it's straight up wrong. MVP is not a good team in my humble opinion; I have yet to see any player from there do anything at all worth noting, whereas IM has the best players in the world.
I know it's a "team" league, but i would have hoped that 4-5 amazing players(Mvp, NesTea, YongHwa, Seed, LosirA) and 2-4 more adequate players would be enough (regardless of position on Code S/A).
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You'd think they would base team rankings on previous team league results and not rely solely on individual results in Code A & S. It goes against the entire concept of the league to leave out one of the previous best performers in the team league simply because their team is not as large and thus have an inherent disadvantage when using an accumulation of individual results.
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Im happy that the system is not implemented in the bw system, otherwise teams like KT or SKT would not be able to make it.
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But in doing so they've eliminated most top teams and proven their worth.
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its just a shame that im isnt participating
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Bleh IM not making it in is really sad. I find it pretty weird as well that the points don't get counted after the UP & DOWN matches are over as IM will most likely have 3 players in code S giving them a top 8 spot.
Once again crappy system for counting the teams.. the formula should include results of the players as well as a team with the best players (final Code S, final Code A) just gets screwed now. Why don't they simply add up the individual player scores which exist since they used them to determine the top 8 for the world championship??
Sum of individual scores would surely include IM in the top 4..
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On May 11 2011 03:28 Seide wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 03:26 lazyfeet wrote:On May 11 2011 03:03 KonohaFlash wrote:On May 11 2011 02:59 Ciel wrote:
I dont like IMMvp anyway so I glad I see him less but its unfortunate that top zergs like Losira and Nestea lost their chances to play cuz of him. whatanab I find it hilarious you're calling a 2 time GSL champion a "nab" 2 TIME? I think he is reffereing to Code S January and GSL World Championship. How much people actually value GSL WC is debatable.
If people don't, they should. Even if you ignore the foreigners, the field was pretty stacked. I mean just some nubs like MC, July, Nestea, MKP, Nada, Anypro. MvP got demoted by a fluke and he was the only "code-A" korean in the tournament, the rest were Code-S.
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Pretty damn sad that I won't get to see some of my favorite players competing 
Really GOM should have taken past team league results in consideration.
Still, too late to change the rules for this season. Meh. Hoping for another SlayerS win and looking forward to seeing the map in action
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I really feel that Losira, Seed, Yonghwa and of course the IM big guns really brought a lot of fire to this competition. I'm really shocked that anyone is defending this as a good thing, when even Gom have stated that this is an issue that may need to be addressed.
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I wish they seeded the brackets but what can you do. In regards to IM, yes it sucks that they won't be in the May TL but they just didn't put enough players in Code S/A. You can't really blame the other teams or GomTV for that. Only in the future can we hope for Code S + Code A + past GSTL results to determine TL participants.
EDIT: It also looks like oGs will be out in the first round again. The past TLs they have shown that they are too Terran heavy and rely too much on MC. I'm hoping that they have a better game plan this time around.
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On May 11 2011 03:44 MoreFaSho wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 03:28 Seide wrote:On May 11 2011 03:26 lazyfeet wrote:On May 11 2011 03:03 KonohaFlash wrote:On May 11 2011 02:59 Ciel wrote:
I dont like IMMvp anyway so I glad I see him less but its unfortunate that top zergs like Losira and Nestea lost their chances to play cuz of him. whatanab I find it hilarious you're calling a 2 time GSL champion a "nab" 2 TIME? I think he is reffereing to Code S January and GSL World Championship. How much people actually value GSL WC is debatable. If people don't, they should. Even if you ignore the foreigners, the field was pretty stacked. I mean just some nubs like MC, July, Nestea, MKP, Nada, Anypro. MvP got demoted by a fluke and he was the only "code-A" korean in the tournament, the rest were Code-S.
Wasn't it basically the 8 highest rated GSL Koreans?
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On May 11 2011 03:45 Geegeez wrote:
I wish they seeded the brackets but what can you do. In regards to IM, yes it sucks that they won't be in the May TL but they just didn't put enough players in Code S/A. You can't really blame the other teams or GomTV for that. Only in the future can we hope for Code S + Code A + past GSTL results to determine TL participants.
You can blame Gom for not including past GSTL results to help determine the participating teams for the GSTL. I mean, that's just a no-brainer.
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On May 11 2011 03:44 MoreFaSho wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 03:28 Seide wrote:On May 11 2011 03:26 lazyfeet wrote:On May 11 2011 03:03 KonohaFlash wrote:On May 11 2011 02:59 Ciel wrote:
I dont like IMMvp anyway so I glad I see him less but its unfortunate that top zergs like Losira and Nestea lost their chances to play cuz of him. whatanab I find it hilarious you're calling a 2 time GSL champion a "nab" 2 TIME? I think he is reffereing to Code S January and GSL World Championship. How much people actually value GSL WC is debatable. If people don't, they should. Even if you ignore the foreigners, the field was pretty stacked. I mean just some nubs like MC, July, Nestea, MKP, Nada, Anypro. MvP got demoted by a fluke and he was the only "code-A" korean in the tournament, the rest were Code-S.
Yeah I agree, it is legit. It definately was not an easy tourney, but you will always find those who say otherwise.
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On May 11 2011 03:49 Devolved wrote:
You can blame Gom for not including past GSTL results to help determine the participating teams for the GSTL. I mean, that's just a no-brainer.
They used the same criteria to determine March's GSTL. Nobody complained because every team they wanted was in. Now that IM isn't in people are all in a fuss.
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On May 10 2011 14:13 trikshun wrote:
Why wouldn't IM or Slayers get automatic qualification for finishing top 2. MVP could probably all kill MVP with ease...
I love you
But seriously MVP could and I don't care about the system that they use if they exclude what's on its worst day maybe the third best team in the GSL then the team league will be a joke.
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On May 11 2011 03:53 Geegeez wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 03:49 Devolved wrote:
You can blame Gom for not including past GSTL results to help determine the participating teams for the GSTL. I mean, that's just a no-brainer. They used the same criteria to determine March's GSTL. Nobody complained because every team they wanted was in. Now that IM isn't in people are all in a fuss.
Didn't they give IM and ST points for their results in the first GSTL for the second one? Or am I remembering wrong?
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