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GSTL May Teams - no IM

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papery
Profile Joined January 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 15:51:44
May 10 2011 05:04 GMT
#1
GomTV announced the GSTL May teams and Ro8 brackets.
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In the long block of text that follows the bracket GomTV addresses the complaints people have been having regarding IM's exclusion. They state that to choose the teams that will participate, they used the same method they have been using since the beginning of this year, and that the brackets and teams included for GSTL May will not change. However, they do also state that they understand the general dissatisfaction in the community and are currently discussing potential solutions to the problem.

The method they use to choose teams is as follows:
Total Points = (1.6x + 1y) where
x = number of players in Code S
y = number of players in Code A

oGs : 13.8 (8+1)
TSL : 10.0 (5+2)
Prime : 9.0 (5.1)
StarTale : 8.8 (3+4)
SlayerS : 8.6 (1+7)
MVP : 7.6 (1+6)
ZeNEX : 6.2 (2+3)
fOu : 5.6 (1+4)
IM : 5.2 (2+2)
NS호서 : 3.6 (1+2)
Liquid : 3.2 (2+0)
FOX : 1.6 (1+0)
Source (search comments for "Ethan_Ahn")


Edit: New map announced for GSTL

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I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 05:10:52
May 10 2011 05:05 GMT
#2
Begin the hype!!

oGs vs. ST so early... that should be interesting.

Edit: Sigh. IM losing to fOu by .4 points... MVP being in Code A basically lost IM their seat :\
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 10 2011 05:06 GMT
#3
wow thats interesting (IM has made it too the finals both times won once, lost once right?). Yeah GOM needs too fix that somehow xD. But glad too see another team league. I really hope there's a "proleague" like system like bw where its 4 1v1's and an ace 1v1 and switches with winners league every x amount of months.

When I think of something else, something will go here
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
May 10 2011 05:06 GMT
#4
whats the point in not letting IM join? isnt this supposed to support esports and have the "TOP" teams play?
1800STFU
Profile Joined February 2011
158 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 05:07:03
May 10 2011 05:06 GMT
#5
They need to find a way to put IM in......it's a crime they're excluded
ESPRITsc
Profile Joined April 2011
200 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 05:08:24
May 10 2011 05:07 GMT
#6
Wow IM didn't qualify. Sad.

On May 10 2011 14:06 Boblhead wrote:
whats the point in not letting IM join? isnt this supposed to support esports and have the "TOP" teams play?


Read before you post.

The method they use to choose teams is as follows:
Total Points = (1.6x + 1y) where
x = number of players in Code S
y = number of players in Code A
stangstang
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada281 Posts
May 10 2011 05:08 GMT
#7
On May 10 2011 14:06 Boblhead wrote:
whats the point in not letting IM join? isnt this supposed to support esports and have the "TOP" teams play?


and they only had 3 players in the GSL, while the team that replaced them (MVP) had more
GertHeart
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States631 Posts
May 10 2011 05:09 GMT
#8
Wow, I'm sad that IM is not in it. You could just let the other teams join and just have ALL compete o.o;
He who conquers the past rules the future, He who conquers the future rules the past. - C&C Red Alert
stangstang
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada281 Posts
May 10 2011 05:09 GMT
#9
it puts more emphasis on the team and less on a single or couple players carrying the team.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
May 10 2011 05:10 GMT
#10
Also, totally ignoring the IM thing because it's pretty obviously retarded; what the heck is up with the brackets?
oGs (1st) plays ST (4th) in the first round. Seriously, guys, seeds. Seeds are good. At least SlayerS is on the other side of the bracket.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 10 2011 05:10 GMT
#11
It's too bad that IM didn't qualify, but I can't exactly argue with GOM's system. Hopefully we'll get some good Keen ceremonies. :D
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
May 10 2011 05:11 GMT
#12
Rooting for TSL as always. They're going to win this time!
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boarmelon
Profile Joined November 2010
1 Post
May 10 2011 05:11 GMT
#13
SlayerS vs oGs finals.
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
May 10 2011 05:12 GMT
#14
Bah, IM is my favourite team . Guess I'll be cheering for oGs then.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 05:15:30
May 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#15
Don't bash it if you don't have a solution. What should GOM do, change the rules so MVP, an upcoming team, doesn't have a chance? If memory serves me right SlayerS were an upcoming team, look what the GSTL did for them.

Only things I could think of to make it work could be:
1) Ro16 - issue being, there aren't this many teams unless they expand to "Code B".
2) Provide variety to the points given based on results - That is: the grand finalists might earn a team 1.9 points, whilst a 4th place Code S group-er might only get 1.1 points for example.
3) A "points" limit which potentially gives lower point teams an extra round. Allows for a "Ro9/10/11/12" for example.

Either way, a solution should be engineered. They can't just hope on the promise that a few teams will control most of the points so its easy to make a Ro8 forever. Heck, if they want to get international players, they are guaranteeing more teams will take points here and there.

EDIT: 4) they could use the same points rankings used for the Super Tournament: pooling the points earned for each player as potential qualifying points for the team. The Super Tournament is not shy on players from different teams...
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
May 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#16
Wow definitely not buying a ticket. That's ridiculous. IM is the reason the first two team league were so amazing.
trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
May 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#17
Why wouldn't IM or Slayers get automatic qualification for finishing top 2. MVP could probably all kill MVP with ease...
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 05:18:54
May 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#18
I was actually waiting for this to happen. They have always been at the bottom in terms of points as a team... and all of a sudden MVP exploded in Code A. I'm actually very interested to see how they do.

I am very surprised that their team (MVP) did so well... I thought they would take a long time before we started seeing some decent players from them, but they really picked it up.

Edit: Woo! And if they don't make a good showing then at least Prime finally gets to move up for once!

Edit 2:

On May 10 2011 14:06 blade55555 wrote:
wow thats interesting (IM has made it too the finals both times won once, lost once right?). Yeah GOM needs too fix that somehow xD. But glad too see another team league. I really hope there's a "proleague" like system like bw where its 4 1v1's and an ace 1v1 and switches with winners league every x amount of months.



You know... I kind of agree and I kind of disagree about Gom needing to "fix" it. I think IM is definitely deserving and it sucks that they are not in it, but at the same time it is a team league. They should have many players in the GSL, not just a few who are used to take down large chunks of teams. But then again at the same time, they still have good Code B players who are simply having trouble getting in, but are still really contributing.

I think the best solution would simply be to have 2 groups of 5 where the 5 teams play round robin. The top 2 of each group of 5 go against the 3rd and 4th teams... but then again that means they would need to cast WAY more games... and I don't think that's something they want to do... at least not at this point.
BuffaloSoljah
Profile Joined March 2011
United States31 Posts
May 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#19
honastly if they tallied up the totals AFTER the up and down matches this would not have been a problem as MVP would most likely been in code S but excluding IM is not goms fault but MVPs fault for losing three series inna row and falling to code A he was the difference maker in the last GSTL that gave them their spot and in this one in losing their spot
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
May 10 2011 05:16 GMT
#20
On May 10 2011 14:06 Boblhead wrote:
whats the point in not letting IM join? isnt this supposed to support esports and have the "TOP" teams play?


Top teams get decided by results. Surely you can't be considered a top team if you don't have the current results to back it up. The other teams that are ahead of IM have proven, by showing results, that they are indeed a top team. I do agree that IM is a very good team, but if they aren't proving it consistantly then where is the credibility?
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