• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:16
CEST 19:16
KST 02:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash8[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy12ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple5Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research3Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: SoulKey vs Ample ASL21 General Discussion RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group E [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group D [ASL21] Ro24 Group C
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1916 users

GSTL May Teams - no IM - Page 25

Forum Index > SC2 General
806 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 41 Next All
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
May 10 2011 17:27 GMT
#481
On May 11 2011 02:23 OPL3SA2 wrote:
Real quickly, does anyone know the prize pool for the GSTL? I am intimately familiar with the prize pools that were published about the GSL Code-S and Code-A, but I haven't seen any numbers regarding the teamleague. Thanks in advance

The first 2 GSTL's were prized as such

Place Prize (KRW) Prize (USD) Prize (EUR)
Champions ₩ 10,000,000 $ 8,700 € 6,600
Runner-up ₩ 5,000,000 $ 4,350 € 3,300
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Macattack1234
Profile Joined March 2011
United States11 Posts
May 10 2011 17:30 GMT
#482
Although this is disappointing to not have the team with 2 GSL champions and a top 5 in the world zerg (Losira) I think that this is only fair that the groups with the better team performance get in. You could definatly make an argument for MVP or fOU to not be in, given there recent poor performances but all told I think that this is fair.

Additionallly I am excited to see this new map get integrated, I looks like a macro map but its only a 2 player map making it smaller. We may see some interesting engagements when people figure this new map out.
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
May 10 2011 17:31 GMT
#483
Won't the points change after up and down matches...

They probably should of waited
Try another route paperboy.
Yokoblue
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada594 Posts
May 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#484
I would sooo put a 2 modifier instead of 1.6 for Code S players.

Or add something when you reach top 4 last season... like 2.2 or something...
Master League playing Protoss and Zerg
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
May 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#485
On May 11 2011 02:01 mikyaJ wrote:
I'd just like to point out that TSL and IM have around the same number of players (both small teams), but TSL has almost all of there players in GSL, and most of those in Code S. IM's lesser players need to stop being carried by the trifecta : /

In a Proleague format (as opposed to Winner's League) I don't think IM would do nearly as well.

Actually, IM players outside the trifecta have 10-5 stats in GSTL, and the trifecta has 15-7. The trifecta outsiders are being carried by Yonghwa(7-2) and Seed(3-1) though. They have overall good players in the teamleague, they just need more players to get into code A.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
May 10 2011 17:42 GMT
#486
On May 11 2011 02:25 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 01:57 ReaperX wrote:
I feel so bad about IM not being able to play... Although I respect GOM, they should do something like total the player's GSL points in total



so one gsl champion player can carry a whole team?


Like oGs?
Baerinho
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany257 Posts
May 10 2011 17:42 GMT
#487
thats unfortunate, but the only right decision if oyu wanna keep your integrity.

If a sport changes its rules simply to accomodate what seems to be the most intriguing, it looses its credibility.

That doesnt mean you cant learn from it and change the rules for future tournaments, especially in such a young game.
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
May 10 2011 17:44 GMT
#488
On May 10 2011 14:08 stangstang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 14:06 Boblhead wrote:
whats the point in not letting IM join? isnt this supposed to support esports and have the "TOP" teams play?


and they only had 3 players in the GSL, while the team that replaced them (MVP) had more



two of their three players are in the finals of their respective tournaments.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
May 10 2011 17:44 GMT
#489
I really dislike the new map for pvz early game. The nat is too wide open to fe and there is no ramp into the main so the wall in can easily be taken out by a bust.
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
May 10 2011 17:44 GMT
#490
On May 11 2011 02:25 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 01:57 ReaperX wrote:
I feel so bad about IM not being able to play... Although I respect GOM, they should do something like total the player's GSL points in total


so one gsl champion player can carry a whole team?

Fun fact: A team could have 16 people qualify for code A and get knocked out in RO32, along with 12 people in Code S going to up/down matches, and they would still not have as many points as the one player that won code S (4960 points vs 5000). 16 people in code S RO32 would be worth 200 points less than code S winner.

On May 11 2011 02:31 Steel wrote:
Won't the points change after up and down matches...

They probably should of waited

Points won't change for this GSTL, but the results of the up/down matches will affect GSTL 4. That's because you have the standings at the beginning of the season instead of the end, you get the up/down of previous GSL along with the code A qualifiers.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
May 10 2011 17:47 GMT
#491
Oh my god I LOVE that map!

It looks amazing and the middle will be really interesting playground. Oh god. I NEED to play that on the ladder. I wish blizzard would swap ladder maps every month or something.
Hello=)
TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
May 10 2011 17:52 GMT
#492
they should improve a minor team league for the other teams.
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
May 10 2011 17:52 GMT
#493
What Craziness is this no IM whatttt. and that map looks amazing love it . Cant wait for this to start off best of luck to MVP I see them going far
Follow me on Instagram @Chef_Betto
Ciel
Profile Joined October 2010
Hungary289 Posts
May 10 2011 17:59 GMT
#494
I dont like IMMvp anyway so I glad I see him less but its unfortunate that top zergs like Losira and Nestea lost their chances to play cuz of him. whatanab
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
May 10 2011 18:03 GMT
#495
On May 11 2011 02:59 Ciel wrote:
I dont like IMMvp anyway so I glad I see him less but its unfortunate that top zergs like Losira and Nestea lost their chances to play cuz of him. whatanab


I find it hilarious you're calling a 2 time GSL champion a "nab"
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
May 10 2011 18:06 GMT
#496
Rules are rules, IM didn't make it, and that was because imMVP fell to code A. Their loss.
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
May 10 2011 18:08 GMT
#497
I'm kind of surprised that the two best teams of the previous team league don't get +2 or +1 to their score in addition to the Code S + Code A points. That way IM would be in, and it would assure that the most deserving team competes in the league.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
May 10 2011 18:10 GMT
#498
To sum the things up:
1) IM is top heavy with low level of the bench.
2) They fail at training their code B players
3) They arent very active at headhunting.
I know they got Nuts but why didnt they "buy" a code A/S player from other team. Team changes happen all the time in western SC2 (FX and mous for example ). Why cant koreans do it? GOM made it even easy for them. All players playing are required to omit the Team tag from their player account so players transfers are easy.

So in conclusion:
IM coaches didnt focus on helping their code B players to improve.
Their managers failed the aggressive headhunting.
Dont see any fail on GOM part.
Xain
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada94 Posts
May 10 2011 18:12 GMT
#499
I feel like the best system would have been to take the sum of the GSL2011 points of all the players in a given team, and use that to compare each team. Players that go far in the tournament would actually weight more, like I feel it should be...
GertHeart
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States631 Posts
May 10 2011 18:14 GMT
#500
On May 11 2011 03:10 Frankon wrote:
To sum the things up:
1) IM is top heavy with low level of the bench.
2) They fail at training their code B players
3) They arent very active at headhunting.
I know they got Nuts but why didnt they "buy" a code A/S player from other team. Team changes happen all the time in western SC2 (FX and mous for example ). Why cant koreans do it? GOM made it even easy for them. All players playing are required to omit the Team tag from their player account so players transfers are easy.

So in conclusion:
IM coaches didnt focus on helping their code B players to improve.
Their managers failed the aggressive headhunting.
Dont see any fail on GOM part.


Hate to agree, partially, but of course it's not always the coaches fault.

But to be quite honest, I do agree with others also who state that the "Champion, and second place" should get extra points so they are automatically in the GSTL, all the good games last season weren't just played with the stars of IM.

It's either top 2 should get extra points, or points shouldn't even be considered.
He who conquers the past rules the future, He who conquers the future rules the past. - C&C Red Alert
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 41 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 44m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech135
UpATreeSC 49
MindelVK 23
elazer 13
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 2102
EffOrt 1285
Mini 552
Stork 499
Larva 442
firebathero 335
actioN 285
Snow 257
Hyuk 134
hero 91
[ Show more ]
Aegong 80
Dewaltoss 80
Barracks 50
Backho 47
IntoTheRainbow 34
ggaemo 30
Shine 30
Terrorterran 19
Dota 2
qojqva3045
capcasts49
Counter-Strike
fl0m1732
byalli292
Other Games
FrodaN2452
Grubby2178
Liquid`RaSZi1623
B2W.Neo822
Beastyqt417
DeMusliM295
ceh9266
Hui .121
RotterdaM101
QueenE97
Mew2King69
Trikslyr56
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 5
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 12
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 27
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV883
League of Legends
• Nemesis3980
• TFBlade1278
Other Games
• imaqtpie328
• Shiphtur195
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
6h 44m
Replay Cast
15h 44m
Afreeca Starleague
16h 44m
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Kung Fu Cup
17h 44m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
The PondCast
1d 16h
OSC
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
TriGGeR vs Cure
ByuN vs Rogue
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Maru vs MaxPax
[ Show More ]
BSL
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS6
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S2: W1
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.