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Airship
Profile Joined August 2010
United States465 Posts
May 10 2011 18:14 GMT
#501
On May 11 2011 03:10 Frankon wrote:
To sum the things up:
1) IM is top heavy with low level of the bench.
2) They fail at training their code B players
3) They arent very active at headhunting.
I know they got Nuts but why didnt they "buy" a code A/S player from other team. Team changes happen all the time in western SC2 (FX and mous for example ). Why cant koreans do it? GOM made it even easy for them. All players playing are required to omit the Team tag from their player account so players transfers are easy.

So in conclusion:
IM coaches didnt focus on helping their code B players to improve.
Their managers failed the aggressive headhunting.
Dont see any fail on GOM part.


and the GSTL is worse as a result
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
May 10 2011 18:17 GMT
#502
Wow that new map looks sick!
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
nanoscorp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1237 Posts
May 10 2011 18:17 GMT
#503
Last season when IM came in as the 7th or 8th seeded team in the GSTL I was worried something like this would happen :/ Apparently, it did. I think teams should get more points for Code S semi-finals or finals appearances. Just a couple players like that should be enough to make for an exciting team battle. With Nestea and MVP picking up more points for their results, IM would make it in easily.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 18:19:32
May 10 2011 18:17 GMT
#504
On May 11 2011 03:14 Airship wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 03:10 Frankon wrote:
To sum the things up:
1) IM is top heavy with low level of the bench.
2) They fail at training their code B players
3) They arent very active at headhunting.
I know they got Nuts but why didnt they "buy" a code A/S player from other team. Team changes happen all the time in western SC2 (FX and mous for example ). Why cant koreans do it? GOM made it even easy for them. All players playing are required to omit the Team tag from their player account so players transfers are easy.

So in conclusion:
IM coaches didnt focus on helping their code B players to improve.
Their managers failed the aggressive headhunting.
Dont see any fail on GOM part.


and the GSTL is worse as a result

Nope... I watch the GSTL for the new players. Not the ones i can see in code A or S.
Over 120 baneling rolling, zergling and marine dancing can only happen in GSTL....
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 18:21:14
May 10 2011 18:19 GMT
#505
Nice new map :D With out IM, I think we're having a oGs vs SlayerS final!!
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
May 10 2011 18:20 GMT
#506
I LOVE the new layout of the map. and this map look interestiting
(。◕ ω ◕。) Beer Time !!!! (。◕ ω ◕。)
Seide
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States831 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 18:35:32
May 10 2011 18:21 GMT
#507
Shrug, fOu instead of IM, not sure how I feel about that as only sC has shows results, and everyone else on their team got knocked out in ro32 code A. On the other hand, rules are rules and everyone deserves a shot, fOu did beat out IM with the formula GOM uses.

But hey, I don't make the rules, maybe this situation and peoples unhappiness will make GOM review them for the next team league. Maybe put weighted points based on how far players of the team go in the tourneys. Or maybe not, its nice to see some lesser known players get a chance.

As much as I like to see the top players play, it is also exciting to see new faces. Especially this early in the scene where there is a good potential for someone to come out of nowhere.

I can't help to feel bad for IM though, silver in last GSTL to not even able to participate.
One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.
Lanzal
Profile Joined October 2010
31 Posts
May 10 2011 18:23 GMT
#508
Its good that IM doesnt get to play in this, makes people realize that you actually have to produce good results to get to compete in the team leagues. If we are to call it an e-sport, we must keep in competetive.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
May 10 2011 18:23 GMT
#509
From the source page on gomtv, Google Translate translated one of the comments to "And Moses left without a watch to hear". That is one of the most beautiful phrases I've ever read.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 18:25:45
May 10 2011 18:24 GMT
#510
If this were proleague format, I might understand GOM's reasoning more behind their team selections/requirements. In this All-kill format though, IM has an incredibly strong team which they've proven multiple times. Being top heavy in this league is waaaayyy more important than having a bunch of random middle level players.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
May 10 2011 18:26 GMT
#511
Why doesn't gom wait until after the GSL to set the teams, because fOu lost all of their code A's.... so they have like 1.6 or 2.6 points max now.
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
May 10 2011 18:26 GMT
#512
On May 11 2011 03:03 KonohaFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 02:59 Ciel wrote:
I dont like IMMvp anyway so I glad I see him less but its unfortunate that top zergs like Losira and Nestea lost their chances to play cuz of him. whatanab


I find it hilarious you're calling a 2 time GSL champion a "nab"

2 TIME?
LUCK is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity.......
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
May 10 2011 18:26 GMT
#513
On May 11 2011 03:14 Airship wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 03:10 Frankon wrote:
To sum the things up:
1) IM is top heavy with low level of the bench.
2) They fail at training their code B players
3) They arent very active at headhunting.
I know they got Nuts but why didnt they "buy" a code A/S player from other team. Team changes happen all the time in western SC2 (FX and mous for example ). Why cant koreans do it? GOM made it even easy for them. All players playing are required to omit the Team tag from their player account so players transfers are easy.

So in conclusion:
IM coaches didnt focus on helping their code B players to improve.
Their managers failed the aggressive headhunting.
Dont see any fail on GOM part.


and the GSTL is worse as a result

It's not, and it's sad to see that ppl still can't understand the validity of this process.

It's an absurd thing to say that BOTH finalists should get automatic qualification for the next tournament. Totally L-O-L, such thing does not exist.

You'd really want a somewhat corrupt qualification system (don't want to mention any north american league *cough*), or something that's straightforward, and if a TEAM (yep, not 1 or 2 members of it) is good, it'll sure qualify?
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
May 10 2011 18:27 GMT
#514
woah cool wc3 map
Seide
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States831 Posts
May 10 2011 18:28 GMT
#515
On May 11 2011 03:26 lazyfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 03:03 KonohaFlash wrote:
On May 11 2011 02:59 Ciel wrote:
I dont like IMMvp anyway so I glad I see him less but its unfortunate that top zergs like Losira and Nestea lost their chances to play cuz of him. whatanab


I find it hilarious you're calling a 2 time GSL champion a "nab"

2 TIME?

I think he is reffereing to Code S January and GSL World Championship.
How much people actually value GSL WC is debatable.
One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
May 10 2011 18:29 GMT
#516
On May 11 2011 03:26 lazyfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 03:03 KonohaFlash wrote:
On May 11 2011 02:59 Ciel wrote:
I dont like IMMvp anyway so I glad I see him less but its unfortunate that top zergs like Losira and Nestea lost their chances to play cuz of him. whatanab


I find it hilarious you're calling a 2 time GSL champion a "nab"

2 TIME?


GSL January, GSL World Championship Tournament
Kevmeister @ Dota2
hahaimhenry
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada368 Posts
May 10 2011 18:30 GMT
#517
After the amount of adversity IM went through (being a nobody, having no sponsors, working their asses off to get where they are, trying to get a hold of the foreign scene), I'm disappointed with this. I can understand their method in choosing the teams but it seems like they're just trying to find ways to screw them over.

Think about it like this, they've already worked so hard to get their team where they are now, but now they're not even allowed to join a tournament that's basically showed us some of the best games we've EVER seen. GSTL games were better than those from the actual GSL. Now they have to work even harder than they already had before - I feel like it's not fair.

Why not put in a system where GSTL performances have a little to do with who plays in the next season? Maybe have the top 4 teams be in the next season for sure or something?
:]
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
May 10 2011 18:31 GMT
#518
On May 11 2011 03:26 lazyfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 03:03 KonohaFlash wrote:
On May 11 2011 02:59 Ciel wrote:
I dont like IMMvp anyway so I glad I see him less but its unfortunate that top zergs like Losira and Nestea lost their chances to play cuz of him. whatanab


I find it hilarious you're calling a 2 time GSL champion a "nab"

2 TIME?

Yes 2 time, GSL season 5 and the world championship
(。◕ ω ◕。) Beer Time !!!! (。◕ ω ◕。)
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
May 10 2011 18:35 GMT
#519
No IM is sad but honestly it's the team league, and fOu, based on their point standing is a more well rounded team over the LosirA, NesTea, MVP triple tag team, although they have proven that IMSeed, IMYonghwa, IMNuts etc are all compete players it's just the way it is. IM should be fine next season unless HoSeo or fOu manage to get more points.
andrewnguyener
Profile Joined March 2011
United States548 Posts
May 10 2011 18:36 GMT
#520
i didnt even notice that IM wasnt on the roster. disappointed now
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