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On May 11 2011 03:10 Frankon wrote:To sum the things up: 1) IM is top heavy with low level of the bench. 2) They fail at training their code B players 3) They arent very active at headhunting. I know they got Nuts but why didnt they "buy" a code A/S player from other team. Team changes happen all the time in western SC2 (FX and mous for example  ). Why cant koreans do it? GOM made it even easy for them. All players playing are required to omit the Team tag from their player account so players transfers are easy. So in conclusion: IM coaches didnt focus on helping their code B players to improve. Their managers failed the aggressive headhunting. Dont see any fail on GOM part.
and the GSTL is worse as a result
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Wow that new map looks sick!
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Last season when IM came in as the 7th or 8th seeded team in the GSTL I was worried something like this would happen :/ Apparently, it did. I think teams should get more points for Code S semi-finals or finals appearances. Just a couple players like that should be enough to make for an exciting team battle. With Nestea and MVP picking up more points for their results, IM would make it in easily.
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On May 11 2011 03:14 Airship wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 03:10 Frankon wrote:To sum the things up: 1) IM is top heavy with low level of the bench. 2) They fail at training their code B players 3) They arent very active at headhunting. I know they got Nuts but why didnt they "buy" a code A/S player from other team. Team changes happen all the time in western SC2 (FX and mous for example ). Why cant koreans do it? GOM made it even easy for them. All players playing are required to omit the Team tag from their player account so players transfers are easy. So in conclusion: IM coaches didnt focus on helping their code B players to improve. Their managers failed the aggressive headhunting. Dont see any fail on GOM part. and the GSTL is worse as a result
Nope... I watch the GSTL for the new players. Not the ones i can see in code A or S.
Over 120 baneling rolling, zergling and marine dancing can only happen in GSTL....
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Nice new map :D With out IM, I think we're having a oGs vs SlayerS final!!
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I LOVE the new layout of the map. and this map look interestiting
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Shrug, fOu instead of IM, not sure how I feel about that as only sC has shows results, and everyone else on their team got knocked out in ro32 code A. On the other hand, rules are rules and everyone deserves a shot, fOu did beat out IM with the formula GOM uses.
But hey, I don't make the rules, maybe this situation and peoples unhappiness will make GOM review them for the next team league. Maybe put weighted points based on how far players of the team go in the tourneys. Or maybe not, its nice to see some lesser known players get a chance.
As much as I like to see the top players play, it is also exciting to see new faces. Especially this early in the scene where there is a good potential for someone to come out of nowhere.
I can't help to feel bad for IM though, silver in last GSTL to not even able to participate.
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Its good that IM doesnt get to play in this, makes people realize that you actually have to produce good results to get to compete in the team leagues. If we are to call it an e-sport, we must keep in competetive.
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From the source page on gomtv, Google Translate translated one of the comments to "And Moses left without a watch to hear". That is one of the most beautiful phrases I've ever read.
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If this were proleague format, I might understand GOM's reasoning more behind their team selections/requirements. In this All-kill format though, IM has an incredibly strong team which they've proven multiple times. Being top heavy in this league is waaaayyy more important than having a bunch of random middle level players.
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Why doesn't gom wait until after the GSL to set the teams, because fOu lost all of their code A's.... so they have like 1.6 or 2.6 points max now.
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On May 11 2011 03:03 KonohaFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 02:59 Ciel wrote:
I dont like IMMvp anyway so I glad I see him less but its unfortunate that top zergs like Losira and Nestea lost their chances to play cuz of him. whatanab I find it hilarious you're calling a 2 time GSL champion a "nab"
2 TIME?
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On May 11 2011 03:14 Airship wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 03:10 Frankon wrote:To sum the things up: 1) IM is top heavy with low level of the bench. 2) They fail at training their code B players 3) They arent very active at headhunting. I know they got Nuts but why didnt they "buy" a code A/S player from other team. Team changes happen all the time in western SC2 (FX and mous for example ). Why cant koreans do it? GOM made it even easy for them. All players playing are required to omit the Team tag from their player account so players transfers are easy. So in conclusion: IM coaches didnt focus on helping their code B players to improve. Their managers failed the aggressive headhunting. Dont see any fail on GOM part. and the GSTL is worse as a result
It's not, and it's sad to see that ppl still can't understand the validity of this process.
It's an absurd thing to say that BOTH finalists should get automatic qualification for the next tournament. Totally L-O-L, such thing does not exist.
You'd really want a somewhat corrupt qualification system (don't want to mention any north american league *cough*), or something that's straightforward, and if a TEAM (yep, not 1 or 2 members of it) is good, it'll sure qualify?
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On May 11 2011 03:26 lazyfeet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 03:03 KonohaFlash wrote:On May 11 2011 02:59 Ciel wrote:
I dont like IMMvp anyway so I glad I see him less but its unfortunate that top zergs like Losira and Nestea lost their chances to play cuz of him. whatanab I find it hilarious you're calling a 2 time GSL champion a "nab" 2 TIME?
I think he is reffereing to Code S January and GSL World Championship.
How much people actually value GSL WC is debatable.
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On May 11 2011 03:26 lazyfeet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 03:03 KonohaFlash wrote:On May 11 2011 02:59 Ciel wrote:
I dont like IMMvp anyway so I glad I see him less but its unfortunate that top zergs like Losira and Nestea lost their chances to play cuz of him. whatanab I find it hilarious you're calling a 2 time GSL champion a "nab" 2 TIME?
GSL January, GSL World Championship Tournament
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After the amount of adversity IM went through (being a nobody, having no sponsors, working their asses off to get where they are, trying to get a hold of the foreign scene), I'm disappointed with this. I can understand their method in choosing the teams but it seems like they're just trying to find ways to screw them over.
Think about it like this, they've already worked so hard to get their team where they are now, but now they're not even allowed to join a tournament that's basically showed us some of the best games we've EVER seen. GSTL games were better than those from the actual GSL. Now they have to work even harder than they already had before - I feel like it's not fair.
Why not put in a system where GSTL performances have a little to do with who plays in the next season? Maybe have the top 4 teams be in the next season for sure or something?
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On May 11 2011 03:26 lazyfeet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 03:03 KonohaFlash wrote:On May 11 2011 02:59 Ciel wrote:
I dont like IMMvp anyway so I glad I see him less but its unfortunate that top zergs like Losira and Nestea lost their chances to play cuz of him. whatanab I find it hilarious you're calling a 2 time GSL champion a "nab" 2 TIME?
Yes 2 time, GSL season 5 and the world championship
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No IM is sad but honestly it's the team league, and fOu, based on their point standing is a more well rounded team over the LosirA, NesTea, MVP triple tag team, although they have proven that IMSeed, IMYonghwa, IMNuts etc are all compete players it's just the way it is. IM should be fine next season unless HoSeo or fOu manage to get more points.
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i didnt even notice that IM wasnt on the roster. disappointed now 
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