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SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
March 12 2011 23:04 GMT
#421
On March 13 2011 08:01 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 07:56 SpiZe wrote:
The thing that makes me sad about this is how someone can skyrocket to the top of the ladder without even being worried about being banned. How is top 200 not even checked?

I personally know someone who his hacking, he even proposed to me to download the hack he is using. He has a production bar, a unit bar, maphack and all of that stuff.

Juts googling the name of the hack has gotten me like 10 download links. I cannot belive Blizzard doesn't know about those website. It's not even private! Nothing stops them from downloading it and fiding a way to fix it or find a way to caugh people that are using it.

Guess there will always be hackers, no matter what you do. It's kind of sad if you think about it.


Would you please report that guy for the benefit of the starcraft community?


I did actually, as well as another of my friend who is using the same one. I don't know him in real life so I couldn't care less if he can't play anymore.
TommyLove
Profile Joined January 2011
United States24 Posts
March 12 2011 23:04 GMT
#422
On March 13 2011 08:00 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 07:56 TommyLove wrote:
mike, yesterday i laughed at your thread and i demanded the party host to bring you in, so i can explained to everyone about your story, then you raged and called me a gook and left skype.

furthermore, how am i suppose to know that you know how to use google?

seriously...



TommyLove, are you really asking someone that question? Google Chrome is my default browser. It's 2011 bro, who in the WORLD does NOT know how to use google who uses the internet?!?!?!?


R O F L

you. you had to drop out of high school, so u had to get ur GED so you can enroll in the military... i didn't the armed forces taught u how to use google

S O R R Y
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 12 2011 23:05 GMT
#423
On March 13 2011 08:04 TooL wrote:
daphreak has to be trolling.


can't possibly be that stupid.



brilliant post. thanks for the contribution.
NrT.RuSH
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany214 Posts
March 12 2011 23:05 GMT
#424
actually i taught him how to use google as i already posted.
US Air Force Stationed in Ramstein, Germany. Char: NrTRuSH Code: 768
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States437 Posts
March 12 2011 23:06 GMT
#425
To admins:

if you can just nuke these posts from tommy, he's off topic and trolling this thread like crazy
NrT.RuSH
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 23:07:19
March 12 2011 23:06 GMT
#426
Mike was obviously to cool for highschool which is why he had to drop out. Its not his fault hes to awesome.
US Air Force Stationed in Ramstein, Germany. Char: NrTRuSH Code: 768
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
March 12 2011 23:07 GMT
#427
On March 13 2011 08:01 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 07:56 SpiZe wrote:
The thing that makes me sad about this is how someone can skyrocket to the top of the ladder without even being worried about being banned. How is top 200 not even checked?

I personally know someone who his hacking, he even proposed to me to download the hack he is using. He has a production bar, a unit bar, maphack and all of that stuff.

Juts googling the name of the hack has gotten me like 10 download links. I cannot belive Blizzard doesn't know about those website. It's not even private! Nothing stops them from downloading it and fiding a way to fix it or find a way to caugh people that are using it.

Guess there will always be hackers, no matter what you do. It's kind of sad if you think about it.


Would you please report that guy for the benefit of the starcraft community?


The problem is that reporting him won't actually help anything unless Blizzard starts to take action on investigating reported hackers. I sent them a report on a guy I know personally that was using a maphack back in BETA and he wasn't banned until the first wave of bans that occurred after the game was officially released.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
March 12 2011 23:07 GMT
#428
Guys, let's try to keep this thread clean. I have a feeling Josh Price and David Zhu would love to see this thread closed because it goes out of control and I wouldn't want that to happen until they're gone from bnet.
Valckrie
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom533 Posts
March 12 2011 23:08 GMT
#429
On March 13 2011 07:56 SpiZe wrote:
Juts googling the name of the hack has gotten me like 10 download links. I cannot belive Blizzard doesn't know about those website. It's not even private! Nothing stops them from downloading it and fiding a way to fix it or find a way to caugh people that are using it.

Guess there will always be hackers, no matter what you do. It's kind of sad if you think about it.


I doubt Blizzard are that ignorant of such hacks. As we know, bans come in waves and they are probably trying to fix it right now, it just takes some time perhaps?
Fear is a 4 letter word. Why be afraid?
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
March 12 2011 23:11 GMT
#430
On March 13 2011 08:08 Valckrie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 07:56 SpiZe wrote:
Juts googling the name of the hack has gotten me like 10 download links. I cannot belive Blizzard doesn't know about those website. It's not even private! Nothing stops them from downloading it and fiding a way to fix it or find a way to caugh people that are using it.

Guess there will always be hackers, no matter what you do. It's kind of sad if you think about it.


I doubt Blizzard are that ignorant of such hacks. As we know, bans come in waves and they are probably trying to fix it right now, it just takes some time perhaps?


I think that banning in waves is a terrible idea. Why should we have to endure people that hacks for like 2-3 months before they finnally get banned. If I steal a car I will get arrested as soon as the police finds evidence that it was i that stole the car, not afther 3 months when they decide that it is time to arrest everyone that commit in crime in the past 6 months.
TommyLove
Profile Joined January 2011
United States24 Posts
March 12 2011 23:13 GMT
#431
On March 13 2011 08:06 ProTech wrote:
To admins:

if you can just nuke these posts from tommy, he's off topic and trolling this thread like crazy

i'm an high templar, i can just feedback the ghosts because i told the truth
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 23:42:01
March 12 2011 23:14 GMT
#432
mafia joke:+ Show Spoiler +
On March 12 2011 22:32 Pete! wrote:
Town wins!
This game seemed to have a pretty unfair Red:Blue ratio if my estimates are correct. Mafia almost succeeded in misguiding several Greens and Blues but clearly not enough.

Either way, my best guesses:

iGware - Godfather
Sorcery - Mafia
VertigoX23 - Mafia(?)
Greenworld - Mafia(?)

Liquid`Nazgul - Mayor
Liquid`Ret - Bodyguard
Liquid`HuK - Bodyguard
bLuR - Veteran
drewbie.root - Veteran
CatZ.root - Veteran
PinkPrincess - Medic(?)

Everyone else - Vanilla



In all seriousness, however good it is for the community to be able to thwart cheaters like this, I'd recommend caution to everyone who feels the need to express themselves so caustically, regardless of which 'side' they're representing. A vast majority of the posts in this thread seem unnecessary and many don't move the discussion forward in either direction - be it a lynch or a save. (In fact, more than one person who was correct about iGware has embarrassed themselves through their behaviour in this thread.)

Actually, I'm fairly sure it ended in a lyncher win for ProTech, get your facts straight

I would have listed PinkPrincess as a traitor... if they were a medic, though, definitely a VI

In all seriousness, though, this doesn't surprise me. Ret's post was where I decided "this guy is definitely hacking", for the record. Sending a probe to scout an overlord you should have known you could see is like wtf. NOONE QUOTED IT either, and PinkPrincess + Show Spoiler +
(who would make that name as a guy... serious problem there, but that can be addressed personally)
even slandered/tried to make Ret seem less credible.

Considering PinkPrincess said if the guy was caught hacking, you could ban him, I would honestly support a 2 day ban for him.

This is sad to see because I hadn't really associated SC2 with hacking, and having played on USEast in BW more than any other server, it was sort of refreshing. I guess I was naive.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
March 12 2011 23:15 GMT
#433
On March 13 2011 08:11 SpiZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 08:08 Valckrie wrote:
On March 13 2011 07:56 SpiZe wrote:
Juts googling the name of the hack has gotten me like 10 download links. I cannot belive Blizzard doesn't know about those website. It's not even private! Nothing stops them from downloading it and fiding a way to fix it or find a way to caugh people that are using it.

Guess there will always be hackers, no matter what you do. It's kind of sad if you think about it.


I doubt Blizzard are that ignorant of such hacks. As we know, bans come in waves and they are probably trying to fix it right now, it just takes some time perhaps?


I think that banning in waves is a terrible idea. Why should we have to endure people that hacks for like 2-3 months before they finnally get banned. If I steal a car I will get arrested as soon as the police finds evidence that it was i that stole the car, not afther 3 months when they decide that it is time to arrest everyone that commit in crime in the past 6 months.


It's not about stopping the hacks, it's about perception.

It impresses more people when Blizzard is able to say "We banned over 9000 accounts this month that we caught hacking." instead of quietly staying on top of the problem.

I think that Blizzard believes that making grand announcements will scare more people into avoiding the use of hacks in the first place, when really, the best defense against hacks is a quick response before it gets out of hand.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
TooL
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada275 Posts
March 12 2011 23:15 GMT
#434
You catch more cheaters that way.
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
March 12 2011 23:15 GMT
#435
Because if they ban one guy... they lose the possibility of banning hundreds more... if they go and report that X/Y/Z offsets is/are detected...
Year 2500 Greater Israel ( Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen )
NrT.RuSH
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany214 Posts
March 12 2011 23:16 GMT
#436
Mike get out of this thread and start the game!
US Air Force Stationed in Ramstein, Germany. Char: NrTRuSH Code: 768
gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
March 12 2011 23:17 GMT
#437
On March 13 2011 05:28 BALIstik916 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 05:02 cHaNg-sTa wrote:
I have zero sympathy for hacking. Even if you let someone hack on your account, you're also cheating. Get this crap off SC2, it just hurts e-sports. You're worse than steroids in baseball.


Hacking pisses me off too, but cmon worse than steroids in baseball? You are being a little overdramatic, this is nowhere near the same thing...


Actually knowing a little about steroids it would not surprise me if the majority of baseball players did a cycle of growth hormones a few years before they went pro. I don't know any baseball players but I do know a lot of hockey players and the majority of them did that in high school. They are completely undetectable a year or so after the fact and you only need to use them once. The public just has this preconception that their sports heroes are all clean and pure and they freak out when the blatantly obvious is publicly revealed.

I would say you would be hard pressed to find more then 1 in 10 pro athletes that hasn't juiced at some point in their lives.
I play Protoss, because lets face it, who doesn't love hyper-advanced Egyptian ninja-aliens that kill people with lightsabres attached to both arms?
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
March 12 2011 23:18 GMT
#438
On March 13 2011 08:15 TooL wrote:
You catch more cheaters that way.


You can prevent people from cheating in the first place if the first 10 people caught using the hack are banned immediately and cause the creator of the program to go back to the drawing board. It's great that Blizzard waits in order to catch all the people that WANT to hack (and who eventually do once they think they've found an undetectable program), but I would personally prefer that they never get the chance to use that program to begin with.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
March 12 2011 23:18 GMT
#439
On March 13 2011 08:15 nalgene wrote:
Because if they ban one guy... they lose the possibility of banning hundreds more... if they go and report that X/Y/Z offsets is/are detected...


Well, maybe that 50 out of those 100 hackers were told by others hackers that it was safe since they weren't banned. Wich is obviously not true.
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
March 12 2011 23:19 GMT
#440
On March 13 2011 08:15 Nemireck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 08:11 SpiZe wrote:
On March 13 2011 08:08 Valckrie wrote:
On March 13 2011 07:56 SpiZe wrote:
Juts googling the name of the hack has gotten me like 10 download links. I cannot belive Blizzard doesn't know about those website. It's not even private! Nothing stops them from downloading it and fiding a way to fix it or find a way to caugh people that are using it.

Guess there will always be hackers, no matter what you do. It's kind of sad if you think about it.


I doubt Blizzard are that ignorant of such hacks. As we know, bans come in waves and they are probably trying to fix it right now, it just takes some time perhaps?


I think that banning in waves is a terrible idea. Why should we have to endure people that hacks for like 2-3 months before they finnally get banned. If I steal a car I will get arrested as soon as the police finds evidence that it was i that stole the car, not afther 3 months when they decide that it is time to arrest everyone that commit in crime in the past 6 months.


It's not about stopping the hacks, it's about perception.

It impresses more people when Blizzard is able to say "We banned over 9000 accounts this month that we caught hacking." instead of quietly staying on top of the problem.

I think that Blizzard believes that making grand announcements will scare more people into avoiding the use of hacks in the first place, when really, the best defense against hacks is a quick response before it gets out of hand.


I don't think it's necessarily about perception ... because you can always ban in smaller waves and just announce after 6 months ... "we've banned over 9000 accounts". You can still do things incrementally and then announce after a certain period of time that you've banned a certain impressive number of accounts.
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