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Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
March 12 2011 22:44 GMT
#401
On March 13 2011 07:38 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 07:35 Nemireck wrote:
On March 13 2011 07:31 dAPhREAk wrote:
its amazing that you are bragging about hacking and how good you were at hiding it. once a cheater, always a cheater. tl doesnt have to ban you, but it should


It's amazing that you are incapable of differentiating between someone bragging, and someone describing the actions that a hacker will take during a game to hide their cheating. I've done nothing more than spell out the types of actions that one should look for when analyzing a replay of a suspected cheater.



you said:

The one thing I noticed back when I maphacked in BW was that by trying to cover up my map-hack, I got really REALLY good at sending scouts across the map so that it wouldn't look suspicious when I was prepared for attacks or took out an undefended expansion (ironically, improving my scouting when I wasn't using a map hack)

that is bragging. you are saying that you were good at hacking and weren't caught. even if it occurred 8 years ago, you are still bragging about not being caught.


No, it's not bragging, it's a description of one of the actions I would take to hide the fact that I was cheating. And observing the fact that, ironically, it actually improved my overall play. It's simply sharing with the community the fact that just because someone pretends to scout doesn't mean that they are playing legit.

You can read the end of my post where I spell out the absolute best (and really, only) legitimate evidence that you can pull from a replay while analyzing it for suspected map-hacks.

Anyways, I'm not going to further derail this thread any longer just because you're oversensitive about someone admitting the things they've done in the past in an effort to help people spot it in the future. You can reply, or not, but I'm done replying to you.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
TommyLove
Profile Joined January 2011
United States24 Posts
March 12 2011 22:45 GMT
#402
On March 13 2011 07:35 LesPhoques wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 07:13 TommyLove wrote:
so telling the truth is trolling? here's an image of us guys chatting on skype yesterday
http://img708.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20110312at209.png/
Michael Ballman is protech by the way and he raged quit on skype because I told him i was going to tell his side of the story


How old are you? 5? No, may be less because your argument is completely RETARDED. Most retarded piece of "evidence" I have seen in my life.
Hacking is serious issue and after reading many of your posts I conclude that you are mentally retarded bipolar person who is denying that iGware was hacking then saying that he didn't share hacks with OP...

Can we vote for permaban ? ^_^

where did i denied that igware was hacking? i don't know him and i don't care.
i like to nominate myself for perm ban for telling the truth. in the future, i'll record my skype conversations and screenshot every single of my sc2 conversations that i care
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
March 12 2011 22:47 GMT
#403
TommyLee you still haven't told us who you are on B.Net. Who are you? It could prove you're not some random troll if I know your account
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
g.o-
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 22:48:10
March 12 2011 22:47 GMT
#404
His bnet ID is TommyLove, join us in channel clan hack for epic lulz
sureshot_
Profile Joined August 2010
United States257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 22:50:09
March 12 2011 22:49 GMT
#405
On March 13 2011 07:38 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 07:35 Nemireck wrote:
On March 13 2011 07:31 dAPhREAk wrote:
its amazing that you are bragging about hacking and how good you were at hiding it. once a cheater, always a cheater. tl doesnt have to ban you, but it should


It's amazing that you are incapable of differentiating between someone bragging, and someone describing the actions that a hacker will take during a game to hide their cheating. I've done nothing more than spell out the types of actions that one should look for when analyzing a replay of a suspected cheater.



you said:

The one thing I noticed back when I maphacked in BW was that by trying to cover up my map-hack, I got really REALLY good at sending scouts across the map so that it wouldn't look suspicious when I was prepared for attacks or took out an undefended expansion (ironically, improving my scouting when I wasn't using a map hack)

that is bragging. you are saying that you were good at hacking and weren't caught. even if it occurred 8 years ago, you are still bragging about not being caught.


Umm.. so what if he's bragging? That's not the focus of his post and quite frankly what he said gives his argument more credibility. He already admitted that he IS NOT using hacks currently (in SC2 at least) so I don't understand what the problem is.

Back on topic. What raised a red flag for me was the 6 bunkers. There is NO WAY someone goes that defense without scouting; especially considering his rank. Although the problem is the only way to really prove if someone is hacking is by watching is in-game camera view, and luckily that also hints towards the exploitation of the game (he looks into the FoW several times).
SkCom
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada229 Posts
March 12 2011 22:49 GMT
#406
On March 13 2011 07:41 dAPhREAk wrote:
could care less whether you hacked. ever play on US East? its 90% hacks. just don't come on the forums and brag about how you are a better hacker (my interpretation alone maybe).

That is one bold statement. I've never felt like I played against a hacker
(oh wiat, you mean BW? yeah BW had a lot of hackers heh)
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 22:51:47
March 12 2011 22:51 GMT
#407
On March 13 2011 06:37 TommyLove wrote:
i knew about this for some time. i just didn't care about it and i personally don't know josh price and david zhu. you can check all my team's history that i never partied with them


You knew about it for some time, yet you still came in here and defended Josh Price and David Zhu after making some strange posts to disrupt the thread? I don't understand what you were thinking.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States443 Posts
March 12 2011 22:51 GMT
#408
so telling the truth is trolling? here's an image of us guys chatting on skype yesterday
http://img708.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20110312at209.png/
Michael Ballman is protech by the way and he raged quit on skype because I told him i was going to tell his side of the story.


TommyLove, all those people im in skype with right now are saying you are a complete idiot. I logged out of skype when you started your BW nonsense. Show screen shots of these alleged accusation you are making, or it didn't happen.

Furthermore it makes no sense that I would ask someone for hacks if I can just go to google and download them. On top of that why in the fuck would I ask you in the middle of that conversation with tons of people that I play with.

Seriously..
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
March 12 2011 22:52 GMT
#409
On March 13 2011 07:47 g.o- wrote:
His bnet ID is TommyLove, join us in channel clan hack for epic lulz


oh ok. well currently that chat channel bug is plaguing me and I can't join clan hack lol i was in the channel before adn then b.net glitched out and i can't rejoin even though it says im in it i'm not..
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 12 2011 22:54 GMT
#410
On March 13 2011 07:44 Nemireck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 07:38 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 13 2011 07:35 Nemireck wrote:
On March 13 2011 07:31 dAPhREAk wrote:
its amazing that you are bragging about hacking and how good you were at hiding it. once a cheater, always a cheater. tl doesnt have to ban you, but it should


It's amazing that you are incapable of differentiating between someone bragging, and someone describing the actions that a hacker will take during a game to hide their cheating. I've done nothing more than spell out the types of actions that one should look for when analyzing a replay of a suspected cheater.



you said:

The one thing I noticed back when I maphacked in BW was that by trying to cover up my map-hack, I got really REALLY good at sending scouts across the map so that it wouldn't look suspicious when I was prepared for attacks or took out an undefended expansion (ironically, improving my scouting when I wasn't using a map hack)

that is bragging. you are saying that you were good at hacking and weren't caught. even if it occurred 8 years ago, you are still bragging about not being caught.


No, it's not bragging, it's a description of one of the actions I would take to hide the fact that I was cheating. And observing the fact that, ironically, it actually improved my overall play. It's simply sharing with the community the fact that just because someone pretends to scout doesn't mean that they are playing legit.

You can read the end of my post where I spell out the absolute best (and really, only) legitimate evidence that you can pull from a replay while analyzing it for suspected map-hacks.

Anyways, I'm not going to further derail this thread any longer just because you're oversensitive about someone admitting the things they've done in the past in an effort to help people spot it in the future. You can reply, or not, but I'm done replying to you.


okay, the fact that you said "really REALLY good" was not bragging. i stand corrected. you are right, it was merely a statement, not a boast. thank you for clarifying that for me. no need to respond as well, because i was clearly wrong that you were not bragging when you emphasized your skills at hacking by using a double word, and all caps for the second word. i admit my misinterpretation.

this thread isn't derailed, its dead. they admitted to hacking, they were banned.
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
March 12 2011 22:56 GMT
#411
The thing that makes me sad about this is how someone can skyrocket to the top of the ladder without even being worried about being banned. How is top 200 not even checked?

I personally know someone who his hacking, he even proposed to me to download the hack he is using. He has a production bar, a unit bar, maphack and all of that stuff.

Juts googling the name of the hack has gotten me like 10 download links. I cannot belive Blizzard doesn't know about those website. It's not even private! Nothing stops them from downloading it and fiding a way to fix it or find a way to caugh people that are using it.

Guess there will always be hackers, no matter what you do. It's kind of sad if you think about it.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 12 2011 22:56 GMT
#412
On March 13 2011 07:49 SkCom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 07:41 dAPhREAk wrote:
could care less whether you hacked. ever play on US East? its 90% hacks. just don't come on the forums and brag about how you are a better hacker (my interpretation alone maybe).

That is one bold statement. I've never felt like I played against a hacker
(oh wiat, you mean BW? yeah BW had a lot of hackers heh)


yeah BW. US East was either lag hacks, drop hacks, or maphacks, then flaming by messages after you lost to the hacks.
TommyLove
Profile Joined January 2011
United States24 Posts
March 12 2011 22:56 GMT
#413
mike, yesterday i laughed at your thread and i demanded the party host to bring you in, so i can explained to everyone about your story, then you raged and called me a gook and left skype.

furthermore, how am i suppose to know that you know how to use google?

seriously...
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
March 12 2011 22:59 GMT
#414
On March 13 2011 07:54 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 07:44 Nemireck wrote:
On March 13 2011 07:38 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 13 2011 07:35 Nemireck wrote:
On March 13 2011 07:31 dAPhREAk wrote:
its amazing that you are bragging about hacking and how good you were at hiding it. once a cheater, always a cheater. tl doesnt have to ban you, but it should


It's amazing that you are incapable of differentiating between someone bragging, and someone describing the actions that a hacker will take during a game to hide their cheating. I've done nothing more than spell out the types of actions that one should look for when analyzing a replay of a suspected cheater.



you said:

The one thing I noticed back when I maphacked in BW was that by trying to cover up my map-hack, I got really REALLY good at sending scouts across the map so that it wouldn't look suspicious when I was prepared for attacks or took out an undefended expansion (ironically, improving my scouting when I wasn't using a map hack)

that is bragging. you are saying that you were good at hacking and weren't caught. even if it occurred 8 years ago, you are still bragging about not being caught.


No, it's not bragging, it's a description of one of the actions I would take to hide the fact that I was cheating. And observing the fact that, ironically, it actually improved my overall play. It's simply sharing with the community the fact that just because someone pretends to scout doesn't mean that they are playing legit.

You can read the end of my post where I spell out the absolute best (and really, only) legitimate evidence that you can pull from a replay while analyzing it for suspected map-hacks.

Anyways, I'm not going to further derail this thread any longer just because you're oversensitive about someone admitting the things they've done in the past in an effort to help people spot it in the future. You can reply, or not, but I'm done replying to you.


okay, the fact that you said "really REALLY good" was not bragging. i stand corrected. you are right, it was merely a statement, not a boast. thank you for clarifying that for me. no need to respond as well, because i was clearly wrong that you were not bragging when you emphasized your skills at hacking by using a double word, and all caps for the second word. i admit my misinterpretation.

this thread isn't derailed, its dead. they admitted to hacking, they were banned.


I personally don't think this thread should be considered dead and closed until it is confirmed Blizzard banned both of those guys. Publicizing the cheaters like this is really the only way to make Blizzard take an immediate action (as opposed to their wave bans every however many months) from what I've observed.
Valckrie
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom533 Posts
March 12 2011 22:59 GMT
#415
So the owners of both the accounts have admitted to using maphacks, shouldn't this be closed now? It's just filled with TommyLove trolling.
Fear is a 4 letter word. Why be afraid?
NrT.RuSH
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany214 Posts
March 12 2011 23:00 GMT
#416
uh tommy, mike knows how to use google because i gave him this link http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=how to use google&rlz=1R2TSND_enDE408&aq=f&aqi=g5&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=dab957d17934ce0
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ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States443 Posts
March 12 2011 23:00 GMT
#417
On March 13 2011 07:56 TommyLove wrote:
mike, yesterday i laughed at your thread and i demanded the party host to bring you in, so i can explained to everyone about your story, then you raged and called me a gook and left skype.

furthermore, how am i suppose to know that you know how to use google?

seriously...



TommyLove, are you really asking someone that question? Google Chrome is my default browser. It's 2011 bro, who in the WORLD does NOT know how to use google who uses the internet?!?!?!?


R O F L
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
March 12 2011 23:01 GMT
#418
On March 13 2011 07:56 SpiZe wrote:
The thing that makes me sad about this is how someone can skyrocket to the top of the ladder without even being worried about being banned. How is top 200 not even checked?

I personally know someone who his hacking, he even proposed to me to download the hack he is using. He has a production bar, a unit bar, maphack and all of that stuff.

Juts googling the name of the hack has gotten me like 10 download links. I cannot belive Blizzard doesn't know about those website. It's not even private! Nothing stops them from downloading it and fiding a way to fix it or find a way to caugh people that are using it.

Guess there will always be hackers, no matter what you do. It's kind of sad if you think about it.


Would you please report that guy for the benefit of the starcraft community?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 12 2011 23:02 GMT
#419
On March 13 2011 07:59 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 07:54 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 13 2011 07:44 Nemireck wrote:
On March 13 2011 07:38 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 13 2011 07:35 Nemireck wrote:
On March 13 2011 07:31 dAPhREAk wrote:
its amazing that you are bragging about hacking and how good you were at hiding it. once a cheater, always a cheater. tl doesnt have to ban you, but it should


It's amazing that you are incapable of differentiating between someone bragging, and someone describing the actions that a hacker will take during a game to hide their cheating. I've done nothing more than spell out the types of actions that one should look for when analyzing a replay of a suspected cheater.



you said:

The one thing I noticed back when I maphacked in BW was that by trying to cover up my map-hack, I got really REALLY good at sending scouts across the map so that it wouldn't look suspicious when I was prepared for attacks or took out an undefended expansion (ironically, improving my scouting when I wasn't using a map hack)

that is bragging. you are saying that you were good at hacking and weren't caught. even if it occurred 8 years ago, you are still bragging about not being caught.


No, it's not bragging, it's a description of one of the actions I would take to hide the fact that I was cheating. And observing the fact that, ironically, it actually improved my overall play. It's simply sharing with the community the fact that just because someone pretends to scout doesn't mean that they are playing legit.

You can read the end of my post where I spell out the absolute best (and really, only) legitimate evidence that you can pull from a replay while analyzing it for suspected map-hacks.

Anyways, I'm not going to further derail this thread any longer just because you're oversensitive about someone admitting the things they've done in the past in an effort to help people spot it in the future. You can reply, or not, but I'm done replying to you.


okay, the fact that you said "really REALLY good" was not bragging. i stand corrected. you are right, it was merely a statement, not a boast. thank you for clarifying that for me. no need to respond as well, because i was clearly wrong that you were not bragging when you emphasized your skills at hacking by using a double word, and all caps for the second word. i admit my misinterpretation.

this thread isn't derailed, its dead. they admitted to hacking, they were banned.


I personally don't think this thread should be considered dead and closed until it is confirmed Blizzard banned both of those guys. Publicizing the cheaters like this is really the only way to make Blizzard take an immediate action (as opposed to their wave bans every however many months) from what I've observed.


true. i hope someone will update the op when blizzard takes some action, as i have played these guys in 2v2 a lot. never thought they hacked because i didnt think anyone would risk it when you can lose your account. amazed to find out one actually did. now i want someone to say protech hacks, so that i can justify all my losses to him too. =D
TooL
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada275 Posts
March 12 2011 23:04 GMT
#420
daphreak has to be trolling.


can't possibly be that stupid.



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