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On March 13 2011 08:18 Nemireck wrote:You can prevent people from cheating in the first place if the first 10 people caught using the hack are banned immediately and cause the creator of the program to go back to the drawing board. It's great that Blizzard waits in order to catch all the people that WANT to hack (and who eventually do once they think they've found an undetectable program), but I would personally prefer that they never get the chance to use that program to begin with.
Yes, that would be nice, but it isnt' realistic.
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On March 13 2011 08:19 lac29 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2011 08:15 Nemireck wrote:On March 13 2011 08:11 SpiZe wrote:On March 13 2011 08:08 Valckrie wrote:On March 13 2011 07:56 SpiZe wrote:
Juts googling the name of the hack has gotten me like 10 download links. I cannot belive Blizzard doesn't know about those website. It's not even private! Nothing stops them from downloading it and fiding a way to fix it or find a way to caugh people that are using it.
Guess there will always be hackers, no matter what you do. It's kind of sad if you think about it. I doubt Blizzard are that ignorant of such hacks. As we know, bans come in waves and they are probably trying to fix it right now, it just takes some time perhaps? I think that banning in waves is a terrible idea. Why should we have to endure people that hacks for like 2-3 months before they finnally get banned. If I steal a car I will get arrested as soon as the police finds evidence that it was i that stole the car, not afther 3 months when they decide that it is time to arrest everyone that commit in crime in the past 6 months. It's not about stopping the hacks, it's about perception. It impresses more people when Blizzard is able to say "We banned over 9000 accounts this month that we caught hacking." instead of quietly staying on top of the problem. I think that Blizzard believes that making grand announcements will scare more people into avoiding the use of hacks in the first place, when really, the best defense against hacks is a quick response before it gets out of hand. I don't think it's necessarily about perception ... because you can always ban in smaller waves and just announce after 6 months ... "we've banned over 9000 accounts". You can still do things incrementally and then announce after a certain period of time that you've banned a certain impressive number of accounts.
You might be right, but in a case like you describe the word would still get out to the community that hackers are being banned, and the hacks would actually be pulled while the programmers tried to create something else.
Probably resulting in way less bans by Blizzard, because a large number of cheats would be prevented from cheating in the first place. Resulting in less opportunity for Blizzard to make grand announcements about how well they're controlling the hacking in their games. I believe the perception that they are responding to hackers is more important to them than the perception that they're preventing the hackers from cheating to begin with. It's incredibly hard to announce that "We've PREVENTED over 9000 hackers from cheating this month." and a lack of announcements of banning people would leave many casual gamers (Blizzard's most important group to target and impress) suspecting that Blizzard simply aren't catching the vast majority of the players who DO cheat.
They could always keep an active list somewhere that would track all of the banned account-names for people to reference, but that would still hinder their ability to make grand announcements to the masses (the people that Blizzard considers most important).
That said, I could be entirely wrong, at this point I'm just talking out of my ass with hypotheses.
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On March 13 2011 08:24 TooL wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2011 08:18 Nemireck wrote:On March 13 2011 08:15 TooL wrote:
You catch more cheaters that way. You can prevent people from cheating in the first place if the first 10 people caught using the hack are banned immediately and cause the creator of the program to go back to the drawing board. It's great that Blizzard waits in order to catch all the people that WANT to hack (and who eventually do once they think they've found an undetectable program), but I would personally prefer that they never get the chance to use that program to begin with. Yes, that would be nice, but it isnt' realistic.
Absolutely unrealistic. But ideal, certainly.
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For all the people who just read the original post and then reply on page 22:
I edited the original post with sorcery's statement, so that my analysis is not contested.
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On March 13 2011 08:32 ProTech wrote:
For all the people who just read the original post and then reply on page 22:
I edited the original post with sorcery's statement, so that my analysis is not contested.
ProTech, do you think you could compress your analysis paragraphs into spoilers to clean up the OP?
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question, who do you think played the csl matches on igware's account, david zhu or josh price?
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On March 13 2011 08:56 maize wrote:
question, who do you think played the csl matches on igware's account, david zhu or josh price?
not relevant anymore considering cal is dq'ed from Csl
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On March 13 2011 09:05 Candide wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2011 08:56 maize wrote:
question, who do you think played the csl matches on igware's account, david zhu or josh price? not relevant anymore considering cal is dq'ed from Csl
wow lol
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On March 13 2011 08:04 TommyLove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2011 08:00 ProTech wrote:On March 13 2011 07:56 TommyLove wrote:
mike, yesterday i laughed at your thread and i demanded the party host to bring you in, so i can explained to everyone about your story, then you raged and called me a gook and left skype.
furthermore, how am i suppose to know that you know how to use google?
seriously... TommyLove, are you really asking someone that question? Google Chrome is my default browser. It's 2011 bro, who in the WORLD does NOT know how to use google who uses the internet?!?!?!? R O F L you. you had to drop out of high school, so u had to get ur GED so you can enroll in the military... i didn't the armed forces taught u how to use google S O R R Y
Maybe you should learn english before you post nonsense ^_^
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After reading several pages after the admissions, to me it seems like a bunch of hacker friends had a split up and now are trying to take each other down. Looks like PinkPrincess is the only survivor from looking at the icons. Hacker Shore, lots of drama!
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On March 13 2011 09:21 ImHuko wrote:
After reading several pages after the admissions, to me it seems like a bunch of hacker friends had a split up and now are trying to take each other down. Looks like PinkPrincess is the only survivor from looking at the icons. Hacker Shore, lots of drama!
This could have been right, except for the fact that sorcery came out of the closet and blatantly told the entire starcraft community that he hacks.
And didnt attack anyone else.
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After reading some of the posts in here, I didn't believe the features that hacks had. Observer features (unit/production tabs), not showing in replays etc...
So I went and had a quick google and the first hack that shows up has not only these features, but also things like Nuke alerts where it pings on minimap, instantly beat AI (what is the point in this?), ability to watch other people's cameras, achievement unlocking...
holy shit, how do people using these things not get caught? hell, how is it possible to unlock the observer mode features when you're playing unless Blizzard severely fucked up their protection?
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On March 13 2011 09:43 Jimmeh wrote:
After reading some of the posts in here, I didn't believe the features that hacks had. Observer features (unit/production tabs), not showing in replays etc...
So I went and had a quick google and the first hack that shows up has not only these features, but also things like Nuke alerts where it pings on minimap, instantly beat AI (what is the point in this?), ability to watch other people's cameras, achievement unlocking...
holy shit, how do people using these things not get caught? hell, how is it possible to unlock the observer mode features when you're playing unless Blizzard severely fucked up their protection?
It is possible because everything that you see in a replay is avalible on your computer while playing the game. It isn't server side, so that means all you have to do is hack your own computer to get the info. This is how all of these hacks work, and why the only thing blizzard can do is monitor the programs you use and ban you later (they can never stop the hacks if it is available on your computer they can only ban offenders and make the hackers create work arounds).
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reading about all these hacking stuff really demotivates from playing the ladder. a shame.
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Well this thread got derailed pretty quickly...
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On March 13 2011 08:32 ProTech wrote:
For all the people who just read the original post and then reply on page 22:
I edited the original post with sorcery's statement, so that my analysis is not contested.
If the hacking was done on iGware's account by sorcery, why are you so sure they also hacked in those 2v2s?
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On March 13 2011 10:07 confusedcrib wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2011 08:32 ProTech wrote:
For all the people who just read the original post and then reply on page 22:
I edited the original post with sorcery's statement, so that my analysis is not contested. If the hacking was done on iGware's account by sorcery, why are you so sure they also hacked in those 2v2s?
Read the thread bro.
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Can anyone give me history of hacking/cheating in Starcraft and Starcraft 2 or link me to a site with info?
Im just really curious on this kind of stuff and want to know the in and outs of the topic.
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On March 13 2011 10:38 ftwpker wrote:
Can anyone give me history of hacking/cheating in Starcraft and Starcraft 2 or link me to a site with info?
Im just really curious on this kind of stuff and want to know the in and outs of the topic.
You mean you want to download them and use them yourself... Google's not hard, takes anyone with a widget of computer knowledge 30 seconds to find them. People here dont like hackers, sure you might dominate your platinum division on the ladder until you are eventually caught (blizzard detected every single hack in wow that was put onto a public website, this aint a 10 year old game any more and they are quite serious).
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is it me or everytime someone gets caught hacking they say they only hacked "sometimes" such gay shit
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