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Finrod1
Germany3997 Posts
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Rakanishu2
United States475 Posts
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aeoliant
Canada361 Posts
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ALPINA
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On February 08 2011 02:03 Finrod1 wrote: The best indicator for cheating i think is too watch if there is a difference between online and offline results. Actually that's the worst indicator ever ^^ Actually most non-Lan tournaments should be casted from replays or have a few minutes delay and that's all. | ||
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DePHIB
France72 Posts
Adding a few delay is the only solution for the stream pb. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On February 08 2011 01:26 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Joined TL.net Saturday, 20th of March 2010 I think that explains that! You have some bold opinions for how little you know. Yeah. People are self servinga lot of the time  | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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ThisiswhyIdontjoinok
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Sonictonic
Sweden62 Posts
So let me get this straight....Knowledge is based on the date joined to this crap half ass community? Is'nt your statement bold enough in its own right for even saying that...? Yeah, a general rule of thumb is that the longer someone has been with a community knows more about what has happend in that community. | ||
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DarKFoRcE
Germany1215 Posts
On February 08 2011 01:34 Hot_Bid wrote: The bolded portion of your statement is so absurdly not true it's mind boggling. Years of history of cheating, abuse, and maphacking from top players in the international scene disagrees with you. I say this with all due respect since you're a relatively well known caster, but you're extremely wrong. Assuming what you in your post here will lead to an atmosphere of cheating. Until there is a delay implemented, no event with money should have a live stream. That's our stance on it. If some events want to ignore this, that's obviously their choice. But I would not be surprised at all, in fact I believe it more likely than not, that these events have already had cheating occur. There's no way to prove it but in the past, when players can cheat without being caught, some will cheat. I agree with this. Although i think most people are honest and do not watch streams while playing, it is just really unlikely that this has never happened. | ||
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Sworn
Canada920 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On the subject of live streams Hot_Bid, you know for a fact that's not going to happen. Players and organisers are extremely unreliable when it comes to getting replays to casters on time. I'm still waiting for replays promised by Dreamhack months ago that should have been sent on the day, to cover a series that did not get cast. There have been plenty of issues in the past where players have not sent replays on-time and you simply cannot do a tournament live-stream with significant delays like that, people will switch off. Delay is a technical aspect that only Justin.tv seems to be trying to implement right now and nobody's come up with a local software buffering solution yet. SCReddit's delay had problems so they had to disable it, but I had a word with Justin.tv's COO a couple of days ago and they claim to have resolved that (plus they're getting servers in Europe to alleviate the problems some European viewers have). | ||
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Pro]ChoSen-
United States318 Posts
I think it would be more distracting than helpful to try and cheat by listening/watching a stream while ur playing. I feel it would be better to just focus 100% on ur game. Now if there was 0 delay, and you are hearing commentary in ur headset live and in realtime, then yes obvious that would be a huge help / unfair advantage, but I believe there is always a delay. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On February 08 2011 02:19 Pro]ChoSen- wrote: I don't think it would it would be very beneficial for a player to listen to a stream while they are gaming to try and cheat. Whenever I'm watching a stream it's usually like a 30 second delay isn't it? So they would hear "oh he's moving out for an attack" like after the battle already happened. I think it would be more distracting than helpful to try and cheat by listening/watching a stream while ur playing. I feel it would be better to just focus 100% on ur game. Now if there was 0 delay, and you are hearing commentary in ur headset live and in realtime, then yes obvious that would be a huge help / unfair advantage, but I believe there is always a delay. It's about spotting hidden expos, proxy buildings, hidden tech, builds that you can't easily scout. Yes it is potentially a huge advantage, even if the typical delay is about 30 seconds on your average stream you can still do it. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
To answer the OP: I don't think many people will watch the live streams while laddering. Also, to take as example HuK or Idra, when you play ladder as a competitive player you are trying to understand the game better. Any kind of cheat isn't beneficiary to help you progress. But, I am certain in their life everybody will cheat given the opportunity. Video game or not. | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On February 08 2011 02:13 ThisiswhyIdontjoinok wrote: So let me get this straight....Knowledge is based on the date joined to this crap half ass community? Is'nt your statement bold enough in its own right for even saying that...? So by your logic and reasoning, by which you have NONE, I myself do not know anything about anything since I just joined today.... The people that run this mainstream lamer website is just disgustingly more disgust by day by day. Teamliquid.net is just a newbie magnet and will always stay a newbie magnet. Wow, an account made solely in purpose of replying to a single post. I don't want this thread to be closed. Let's stay on topic. | ||
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ThisiswhyIdontjoinok
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Noam
Israel2209 Posts
On February 08 2011 02:18 TotalBiscuit wrote: Delay is a technical aspect that only Justin.tv seems to be trying to implement right now and nobody's come up with a local software buffering solution yet. Actually own3d has made stream-delay of up to 60seconds available to all live streams roughly a month ago. It works well and "partners" can request a longer delay. sc-streams.com too has the feature open for every user, up to 5 minutes actually, but it seems buggy right now. | ||
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ThisiswhyIdontjoinok
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On February 08 2011 02:13 ThisiswhyIdontjoinok wrote: So let me get this straight....Knowledge is based on the date joined to this crap half ass community? Is'nt your statement bold enough in its own right for even saying that...? So by your logic and reasoning, by which you have NONE, I myself do not know anything about anything since I just joined today.... The people that run this mainstream lamer website is just disgustingly more disgust by day by day. Teamliquid.net is just a newbie magnet and will always stay a newbie magnet. I dunno where the fuck this tirade came from. Tyler is right, I don't know the backstory of the competitive scene pre-SC2, I wasn't part of this community at that point, hell I didn't and still don't give a shit about Brood War, wasn't my scene, won't ever be my scene. Doesn't matter how harsh he was in the delivery of the message, the message was on point and accurate. It's the internet, best not to get crazy offended because somebody pointed out that someone else is wrong. | ||
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