EPTIt's just a question of integrity that and the enjoyment of accomplishing, achieving and progressing in skill and talent.
Those who undermine these values, cheat.
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
It's just a question of integrity that and the enjoyment of accomplishing, achieving and progressing in skill and talent. Those who undermine these values, cheat. | ||
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stormchaser
Canada1009 Posts
Even if it's blatantly obvious, the player could simply say ''I had a feel for what was going on'' or ''I've seen this build before''.There are literally thousands of excuses you could use and if a ref accused a player of cheating, probably a big deal would be made out of it (so most don't bother). I bet you 100% of players that do this type of thing do it successfully which is another reason why LAN tournaments are the best form of holding a competition. Or maybe tournaments should just not be streamed live at all..... | ||
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zamehan
2 Posts
I may be completely wrong but I think they should not underestimate the risk. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
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delHospital
Poland261 Posts
On February 08 2011 01:46 Grumbels wrote: Set the status to busy, I guess.What I always wondered: if someone plays in the TL:Open vs someone that streams his games and he is told by an anonymous person "hey, he's going proxy banshee rush", what is he supposed to do? Pause the game and inform his opponent? | ||
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
On February 08 2011 01:30 Boonbag wrote: even pro gamers use to abuse and map hack ladder This reminds me of that SUPER OLD replay of Nada map hacking in ladder against an opponent who dt rushed him. I believe Masterofchaos or someone of the sort confirmed that he was indeed using MH but most of the community dismisse as something he used just to test build times or someone else using the account. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
On February 08 2011 01:47 delHospital wrote: Set the status to busy, I guess. Yeah, would it be his responsibility to have set himself to busy beforehand to stop such things? I think a case could be made he would have to forfeit the game, though that sounds a bit ridiculous I suppose. | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On February 08 2011 01:48 skindzer wrote: This reminds me of that SUPER OLD replay of Nada map hacking in ladder against an opponent who dt rushed him. I believe Masterofchaos or someone of the sort confirmed that he was indeed using MH but most of the community dismisse as something he used just to test build times or someone else using the account. WAIT WHAT?!?!?! LINK? | ||
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n0ise
3452 Posts
Anyone who's been following the e-sports scene for some time knows that cheating is a serious matter from the lowest to the highest level. SCII included. | ||
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Herculix
United States946 Posts
On February 08 2011 01:49 Grumbels wrote: Yeah, would it be his responsibility to have set himself to busy beforehand to stop such things? I think a case could be made he would have to forfeit the game, though that sounds a bit ridiculous I suppose. no, the case could be made that the game would have to be restarted. why would he have to forfeit a game over something he didn't do? there are some tournaments which make players take a "busy check" to make sure they aren't informed of anything like that before a match. if you are gonna stream games live, i think this is pretty mandatory. | ||
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YourMom
Romania565 Posts
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legatus legionis
Netherlands559 Posts
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
what many probably do not know is that quite a handfull of known sc2 players have cheated in some way or another in their broodwar days. but now its a new age of sc and we hopefully all get along! | ||
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BadWolf0
United States300 Posts
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
On February 08 2011 01:52 Herculix wrote: no, the case could be made that the game would have to be restarted. why would he have to forfeit a game over something he didn't do? there are some tournaments which make players take a "busy check" to make sure they aren't informed of anything like that before a match. if you are gonna stream games live, i think this is pretty mandatory. Not being busy is inviting such things perhaps (just playing devil's advocate, mind you). | ||
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Xswordy
United Kingdom425 Posts
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tealc
109 Posts
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Mr Tambourine Man
Netherlands190 Posts
Seems an interesting way to check if someone seems suspicious. | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On February 08 2011 01:39 Deadlyfish wrote: Has there ever been a case where someone was watching a livestream while playing that person? Maybe there has, but i cant remember anything like that. I mean, yea maphacking, arranged matches bla bla bla. But actually watching your opponents stream? afaik most streams have a pretty big delay, i dont think watching it would help as much as people seem to think. MioWerra (Now Slayers_Jys or Dragon) was caught cheating this way back in September on Gisado. I was surprised that hardly anyone talked about it here because it was a huge deal in Korea. So, yes, people still do this and I would very much welcome delayed streams. | ||
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DePHIB
France72 Posts
On War3 W3CL, one of the most important team competition in war3, 2 or 3 teams were found guilty of smurfing with some pros playing at the place of others. When I was admin for french great competition, some players were accused of cheating using the radio stream, and they were known people. Some other high level players (I won't tell any name) were influencing admins in order to avoid others or change the seeds on their tournaments when I was admin. I can't imagine there is magically no cheating or things like that in SC2. Remember that russian became legend that has been using maphack for years before accessing to top at war3 ? All pros ends getting forgiven by fans. | ||
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