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On January 22 2011 22:14 ChickenLips wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2011 21:38 vyyye wrote:On January 22 2011 21:32 ChickenLips wrote:On January 22 2011 20:05 vyyye wrote:On January 22 2011 19:59 whatever wrote:On January 22 2011 19:53 vyyye wrote:Hardly has anything to do with that, they didn't hide it as they publicly apologised. I don't quite get the purpose of this, it makes about as much sense as the outrage in this thread. Really, people? Does it in any way matter? Actually, by censoring it they are the ones making a big deal out of this. Hardly, they just removed an now unnecessary part of an interview. Yeah, they could've let it be but people already know of it. Who knows why they did it, who else but Gom? The ones being real silly isn't Gom, it's the ones accusing Gom of blocking all porn from ever reaching Australia. are you stupid? Just because GOMtv said they were working on it and are aware of what jinro said doesnt make it 'unnecessary' You cant censor shit very effectively on the internet, the comment section of that interview is already littered with links to the 'real' interview on youtube. GOM only shot themselves in the foot with this silly censor business. Are you fucking braindead? Does the above sentence do anything except make me look like an angsty teen? It really serves no purpose, aye? Anyway, it does make it unnecessary, Gom aren't in any way obliged to share all information they have with you and as they did cover this issue there's no reason for it to remain in the interview, other than the apparent hatred for censorship around. Obviously people aren't happy with it, I just believe they are being unreasonable. Because it really doesn't bloody matter. Yeah, you can't censor these kind of things easily and they obviously didn't do a great job. But considering that they even made a public announcement it's evident that they aren't trying to just "cover it up". I really don't get how people are reacting to this as if it was some huge scandal. They removed part of an interview and apologised for the issue elsewhere. So fucking what? wow the amount of clueless you were able to instill into your post is quite astounding. I'm no expert in law but I am 100% certain that GOM has to inform their customers of the possible flaws of their product (the GSL). Players being able to hear the commentators is a HUGE problem and threatens the entire credibility and value of the tournament. Afterall if I buy a car from Honda they better fucking tell me if the brakes have reliability issues. They have released a public statement, but censoring the interview shows that they dont want to be 100% upfront about it and I dislike that they have done the bare minimum to diffuse the situation and then want to sweep it under the carpet as fast as possible. If they hadn't made a public announcement the entire starcraft 2 community all around the world would be infuriated. What they are trying to do is essentially minimize the damages and keep a low profile about it, they want the least amount of people to know about it. Its not about the game, its about the attitude GOM is showing towards its customers. Theyre not being 100% honest even when everyone knows the truth and its a damn shame
Clearly you aren't an expert at law, else you would know that Gom could have never showed the interview, censored the VOD of it and never offered an apology. You don't pay for the honor of Gom, you pay for the VODs they offer. Censoring interviews isn't illegal, sorry.
"What they are trying to do is essentially minimize the damages and keep a low profile", well, what the fuck did you expect? It's a business after all. You're in for a really nasty surprise when you realize that 99% of all businesses work for money, and not for the greater good of X. Gom didn't owe you fuck all, be glad they were above completely burying it.
They are being more honest than necessary, and the issue will be resolved. A lot of companies would simply censor the interview and never speak of it again. I'll just leave this here, as you seem to be more inclined to insult my person than to argue for your side of the coin.
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there were already rumors about giving Boxer(not the fake guy) better maps and the matchup he wanted (TvT's). They are playing with their image - who knows if that is the only thing they censor or tweak in order to get more people viewing gsl games?
The soundproof issue was resolved i thought - they said they will look into it and try to fix it asap using different headsets or whatever. I dont understand why they are causing artifical drama ?
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is this so important? the soundproofing issue has already been addressed by GOM :\
of course they don't want to keep something like that on their website -_-
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I think its a very wierd decision. Just makes them look bad. Why go trough the trouble of editing that interview, I mean they must know that someone would find out.
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That's a weird thing to do considering that they've already acknowledged it and said they plan to take steps to ensure its not an issue in the future.
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We all know the issue has been fixed but imagine every other person that is going to watch that interview and start the controversy about that match over and over again.
We know it's fixed. We know it didn't effect the game so lets stop worrying about it and let GOM take care of future QQ.
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And I thought the GSL was in SOUTH Korea, damn :D
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what a stupid decision.... some people just don't understand how the internets work!
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quite possibly the least subtle bit of video editing done this century
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I think u guys are over exageratting
it's better to censor then have the bw guys in korea say sc2 is broken is dying etc etc ...
edit: should be an option with I dont care at all
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People are really good at only looking at headlines, or take quotes out of context and then spreading it like it's the truth, while ignoring the followup or in some cases even reading the full article.
I mean, Jinro fairly quickly said that he rewatched the VODs, and couldn't hear the commentators cheering in the VOD, he said he doubted he even heard it in the first place, and might have immagined it. People don't care about this statement, nor that he said that the commentators can only be heard if they cheer loudly, while the music in the booth is silent (inbetween songs), and most of the time, the cheer can mean anything (early game might as well be a good cheerful). So getting useful information out of it, is preatty much impossible.
And still, people make a huge deal out of this, as the sound proof is a game changing flaw.
Or another example, Assange is accused of rape, charges are dropped less than 12 hours later (warrant was issued friday evening, charges were dropped saturday morning). Yet, the world headlines the following weeks was that Assange had raped someone.
What they can do tho, is make the official statement easier to find in relation to the clip.
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censorship is so 20th century -.-
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I don't care what they censored.(Actually read the OP and watched the video  ) Censorship IS censorship,no matter what are You trying to hide.
Also it is known as the weapon of the weak - is GOMtv aware of that? It's like "We can't fix this, lets say there's no issue with that!" When actually there's a problem,it might be a small one,but still remains.
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On January 22 2011 22:22 vyyye wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2011 22:14 ChickenLips wrote:On January 22 2011 21:38 vyyye wrote:On January 22 2011 21:32 ChickenLips wrote:On January 22 2011 20:05 vyyye wrote:On January 22 2011 19:59 whatever wrote:On January 22 2011 19:53 vyyye wrote:Hardly has anything to do with that, they didn't hide it as they publicly apologised. I don't quite get the purpose of this, it makes about as much sense as the outrage in this thread. Really, people? Does it in any way matter? Actually, by censoring it they are the ones making a big deal out of this. Hardly, they just removed an now unnecessary part of an interview. Yeah, they could've let it be but people already know of it. Who knows why they did it, who else but Gom? The ones being real silly isn't Gom, it's the ones accusing Gom of blocking all porn from ever reaching Australia. are you stupid? Just because GOMtv said they were working on it and are aware of what jinro said doesnt make it 'unnecessary' You cant censor shit very effectively on the internet, the comment section of that interview is already littered with links to the 'real' interview on youtube. GOM only shot themselves in the foot with this silly censor business. Are you fucking braindead? Does the above sentence do anything except make me look like an angsty teen? It really serves no purpose, aye? Anyway, it does make it unnecessary, Gom aren't in any way obliged to share all information they have with you and as they did cover this issue there's no reason for it to remain in the interview, other than the apparent hatred for censorship around. Obviously people aren't happy with it, I just believe they are being unreasonable. Because it really doesn't bloody matter. Yeah, you can't censor these kind of things easily and they obviously didn't do a great job. But considering that they even made a public announcement it's evident that they aren't trying to just "cover it up". I really don't get how people are reacting to this as if it was some huge scandal. They removed part of an interview and apologised for the issue elsewhere. So fucking what? wow the amount of clueless you were able to instill into your post is quite astounding. I'm no expert in law but I am 100% certain that GOM has to inform their customers of the possible flaws of their product (the GSL). Players being able to hear the commentators is a HUGE problem and threatens the entire credibility and value of the tournament. Afterall if I buy a car from Honda they better fucking tell me if the brakes have reliability issues. They have released a public statement, but censoring the interview shows that they dont want to be 100% upfront about it and I dislike that they have done the bare minimum to diffuse the situation and then want to sweep it under the carpet as fast as possible. If they hadn't made a public announcement the entire starcraft 2 community all around the world would be infuriated. What they are trying to do is essentially minimize the damages and keep a low profile about it, they want the least amount of people to know about it. Its not about the game, its about the attitude GOM is showing towards its customers. Theyre not being 100% honest even when everyone knows the truth and its a damn shame Clearly you aren't an expert at law, else you would know that Gom could have never showed the interview, censored the VOD of it and never offered an apology. You don't pay for the honor of Gom, you pay for the VODs they offer. Censoring interviews isn't illegal, sorry. "What they are trying to do is essentially minimize the damages and keep a low profile", well, what the fuck did you expect? It's a business after all. You're in for a really nasty surprise when you realize that 99% of all businesses work for money, and not for the greater good of X. Gom didn't owe you fuck all, be glad they were above completely burying it. They are being more honest than necessary, and the issue will be resolved. A lot of companies would simply censor the interview and never speak of it again. I'll just leave this here, as you seem to be more inclined to insult my person than to argue for your side of the coin.
You do know that there is something called PR and reputation? I'm aware of the fact that companies want to make money and nothing else. After Jinro said that he heard the commentators the cat was out of the bag. GOM could've either been 100% upfront about it and not censor anything or done what they did. They cant completely bury it o_O thousands of people were watching, no company would try to completely bury it at that point because it would create a public outrage in the community.
Different companies have different ways of handling things, there are those that embrace their customers and want to stand out with their transparency, then there are those that don't mind a little censorship in the hopes that it will yield them a little more short-term profit. Sadly, GOM has, censoring the interview, shown which one it wants to be.
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Call Julian Assange and wiki leaks NOW...
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wow gom must be pretty stupid to do this
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Who cares? Editing interviews is super-standard, anyone who really cares about the issue already knows about it, and they're doing something to fix it.
It's not like they're covering it up while people don't know about it and not fixing it. So what exactly is the downside of this "censorship"?
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I voted "no way" but I also think they satisfied my need for action when they released a statement, so while I think we should have the whole video, I'm not going to waste time complaining because they think they can save a little face.
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