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On January 22 2011 18:40 BadWithNames wrote:
I'm not normally for handling things in such ways but in this case it makes sense. GOM heard it, publicly addressed it, and has moved on from it. There's no real sense in that interview sitting around claiming the opposite.
Yeah it's censorship but if the problems been solved there no reason to have an interview laying about saying there is a problem.
OR simply they can put overlay caption on the original interview just like "This soundproofing issue is fixed right after this interview"
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On January 22 2011 18:44 Xeph wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2011 18:40 BadWithNames wrote:
I'm not normally for handling things in such ways but in this case it makes sense. GOM heard it, publicly addressed it, and has moved on from it. There's no real sense in that interview sitting around claiming the opposite.
Yeah it's censorship but if the problems been solved there no reason to have an interview laying about saying there is a problem. OR simply they can put overlay caption on the original interview just like "This soundproofing issue is fixed right after this interview"
Because that makes it more professional, right?
They already addressed the issue. No use bringing it up over and over again. Get over yourself. This is a business. This isn't Husky's youtube channel.
On January 22 2011 18:55 Valashu wrote:
I dont see what is right about censoring something as GOMtv did.
They said that they were going to fix the problems but does that mean 'we' should lose our right to complain about past conduct?
It's commendable that they want to fix problems in the show but cutting out footage just because 'we already discussed this' is retarded in my opinion.
Edit: where does all this acceptance come from? I can give several dozen of historical examples where people did NOT say ' Hurr durr! well if it is fixed now it's all k, stop complainggggggg'
Since you haven't seen it before, you can see it now:
It is fixed now. Stop complaining idiot.
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I really don't think this is a very big deal.
They addressed the problem in an official statement and are fixing it. Who cares if they edited it out of the interview? I sometimes think people on this forum are just walking around looking for something to complain about.
On January 22 2011 18:40 BadWithNames wrote:
Yeah it's censorship but if the problems been solved there no reason to have an interview laying about saying there is a problem.
Exactly.
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It might not be a big deal, but tbh censorship on any level = bad. Plus I don't really buy into the "we've already addressed the issue, lets just make uncomfortable stuff dissappear".
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I dont see what is right about censoring something as GOMtv did.
They said that they were going to fix the problems but does that mean 'we' should lose our right to complain about past conduct?
It's commendable that they want to fix problems in the show but cutting out footage just because 'we already discussed this' is retarded in my opinion.
Edit: where does all this acceptance come from? I can give several dozen of historical examples where people did NOT say ' Hurr durr! well if it is fixed now it's all k, stop complainggggggg'
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Perhaps they censored it purely to avoid confusion. If newer viewers see this and completely miss that the issue may have been rectified, they will cause a ruckus that has already been fixed.
Just playing Devil's Advocate.
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Korea =/= USA
Koreans and asiens companys usualy handle these things different from what we are used to. Square enix for example kept ninja fixing FFXI but never admited when something was broken.
Gom addressed the issue and gave us a press release. They basicly want to move on from this and dont want the interview to be reminder to everyone that maybe jinro heard that idra was 6pooling.
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Now seriously - why would you censor this. Thats not a very intelligent move. They did a very good job addressing the issue and now go an do something like this??? It makes no sense. They manned up and handled it well.
I guess I just dont believe in censorship in any form.
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Is the interview on the Gom Korean website as well, or is it just on the GomTV english website? They address the issue only in Korean on the playXP website so i assume maybe they think they will 'lose face' if the issue is known to the international audience?
Not sure why they did the censorship bit but if they think that will make the issue go away faster they are seriously mistaken. This will just make people less trusting of them since they have made what look like a 'cover up' attempt.
P.S. (This remind me of the Lebron James got dunk by some high school kid incident where Nike confiscated the tapes. Something that should normally die down in a day become a circus)
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On January 22 2011 18:26 mig wrote:
I think this is a huge deal. Censoring the players interviews is unbelievably wrong. I can't believe GOM would be dumb and shady enough to do this. This will only bring more attention to what happened.
Oh please, There is nothing evil or shady going on. They probably took it down to further evaluate the situation at hand and how to deal with it. Jesus it's a freaking interview with a player where he accidently revealed that he "thinks" he heard a sound (he even says in a later interview that he cant pick out the korean commentators voices himself and that it might have just been intuition).
Man people think any organization is out to get them with conspiracies and false information. Get it together people they're trying to further esports and love it just as much or even more than we do.
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The thing that annoys me about censorship is that it's whole base assumption is that people are too stupid to understand how things work.
I'd like to say more on the issue, but I have a feeling it would only cause more problems than it would solve.
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It's not really censorship if they made an official public statement about it. It's really no big deal, and they don't need forum threads popping up from people who JUST saw the interview complaining about a problem thats already been addressed. IMHO theres no need to make a big deal out of cutting a now irrelevant part of the interview out.
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I stand by my opinion that Gom are retarded.
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On January 22 2011 18:40 BadWithNames wrote:
I'm not normally for handling things in such ways but in this case it makes sense. GOM heard it, publicly addressed it, and has moved on from it. There's no real sense in that interview sitting around claiming the opposite.
Yeah it's censorship but if the problems been solved there no reason to have an interview laying about saying there is a problem.
Why is it that GOM gets to decide what's useful information to have lying around and what's not. What if they decide that GOM is totally awesome now and any criticism of them is no longer useful so there is no reason to have them lying about. Look at all the comments about the video, are they useful now that the problem is fixed? Should GOM remove people's comments about the sound issue/video editing? When GOM says they can edit an interview (and change someone's words) because of one issue, it makes it easier for them to edit the next guy's words. Censorship is a really slippery slope.
The problem I have with it is that they changed Jinro's words to be "to be honest ... I tried to cancel my second baracks". It's not a big deal or really changed what the spirit of Jinro's words, but if I were Jinro I would be very irritated that GOM contorted his words and I would not feel comfortable doing interviews with them. They're trying to pass off this edited bit as something straight from Jinro in a live interview.
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lol Streisand Effect
edit: damnit, beat to the punch
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You gotta love people from US complaining about censorship. Interviews on American News sometimes more entertaining than Jerry Springer show rofl....gotta love FOX News! haha
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Wow, what a stupid move. Everyone already have seen this interview, I absolutely don't see the point. It will only do damage to GomTV's image. And the issue was already addressed and the case was more or less closed, really I don't understand.
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Hardly has anything to do with that, they didn't hide it as they publicly apologised. I don't quite get the purpose of this, it makes about as much sense as the outrage in this thread. Really, people? Does it in any way matter?
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On January 22 2011 19:14 Greentellon wrote:
The thing that annoys me about censorship is that it's whole base assumption is that people are too stupid to understand how things work.
I'd like to say more on the issue, but I have a feeling it would only cause more problems than it would solve.
What you say is precisely correct. Hardly anyone understands what GomTV is doing, yet they are already jumping to assumptions and irrationally accusing them of ill-practices. People can speculate all they want, but those clueless speculations are just plain stupid and create trivial debates over something that is being resolved.
If that interview were to exist in its uncensored form, perhaps future viewers would again spark up this nonsense again at a later date. It is not like Gom is trying to hide their problem. They have made public statements in regard to the issue. If Gom was denying/hiding the soundproof issue, then the censorship would be problematic.
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