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whatever
Profile Joined July 2005
Mexico693 Posts
January 22 2011 10:59 GMT
#41
On January 22 2011 19:53 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2011 19:47 whatever wrote:
Guess they don't know about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Hardly has anything to do with that, they didn't hide it as they publicly apologised. I don't quite get the purpose of this, it makes about as much sense as the outrage in this thread. Really, people? Does it in any way matter?

Actually, by censoring it they are the ones making a big deal out of this.
Time is always on my side
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
January 22 2011 11:05 GMT
#42
On January 22 2011 19:59 whatever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2011 19:53 vyyye wrote:
On January 22 2011 19:47 whatever wrote:
Guess they don't know about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Hardly has anything to do with that, they didn't hide it as they publicly apologised. I don't quite get the purpose of this, it makes about as much sense as the outrage in this thread. Really, people? Does it in any way matter?

Actually, by censoring it they are the ones making a big deal out of this.

Hardly, they just removed an now unnecessary part of an interview. Yeah, they could've let it be but people already know of it. Who knows why they did it, who else but Gom?

The ones being real silly isn't Gom, it's the ones accusing Gom of blocking all porn from ever reaching Australia.
Gerbeeros
Profile Joined May 2010
101 Posts
January 22 2011 11:09 GMT
#43
This is nuts, its like they are shooting themselves in the leg. Soundproofing issue was IMO understandable mistake though something to fix for sure. This just makes it look much dirtier than it actually was.
Kantutan
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1319 Posts
January 22 2011 11:17 GMT
#44
Yeah, not a big deal. Thing is, they'll fix it now but they don't want people stumbling across the interview in the future and thinking there's still a problem with the soundproofing. Also, you know that there will be people whining about Jinro cheating after seeing the interview. They're burying the issue and moving on.
Xeph
Profile Joined September 2004
Korea (South)191 Posts
January 22 2011 11:34 GMT
#45
I added a poll to OP.
Persistent Pursuit of Perfection
Babaganoush
Profile Joined November 2010
United States626 Posts
January 22 2011 11:40 GMT
#46
Wait what?

When it was first released, they didn't censor that part. And they addressed it already... why would they continue to censor it...
Stick a fork in those buns.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6275 Posts
January 22 2011 11:58 GMT
#47
Imagine they remove Metalopolis from the map pool and then go back and excise everyone's statements in interviews about Metalopolis positional imbalance. The games would still make sense to those of us who witnessed them firsthand, but new viewers wouldn't have the same luxury. Imagine they did this every time they change or rectify something - what would be the point of having Artosis do interviews?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
January 22 2011 12:10 GMT
#48
Jeez at first its all 'thanks for the transparency gom' then they go and screw their new gained good rep with this, stupid decision and thye must of realised we would notice.
cnas
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden640 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-22 12:20:02
January 22 2011 12:18 GMT
#49
GomTV has to read up on the Streisand effect. Censoring something like this only enlights it even more.
One more game, bro's!
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
January 22 2011 12:20 GMT
#50
GOM is trying to keep their hands clean of this, sure it is a slippery slope, but we all can agree here that the problem isn't with the current censorship and more with what it can say for the future. I understand GOM in this case, it wasn't that big of a deal. As long as they do things responsibly we are fine.

That being said...GOM hold exclusive rights to SC2 Korean e-Sport scene, anyone believing a monopolistic corporation is above these things should think carefully about it.GOM holds the same power in SC2 that Kespa does in SC1.
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vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
January 22 2011 12:29 GMT
#51
On January 22 2011 21:20 sqrt wrote:
GOM holds the same power in SC2 that Kespa does in SC1.

Did you really just say that?

This evil corporation with their powerful grasp over SC2 in Korea also publicly apologised and said they would think of a way to prevent this issue from occurring again. They don't have to be 'above these things' as there has been nothing shady going on. I remind you again, they PUBLICLY apologised.

Man, why is everything a huge conspiracy and all corporations pure evil these days?
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-22 12:32:47
January 22 2011 12:32 GMT
#52
On January 22 2011 20:05 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2011 19:59 whatever wrote:
On January 22 2011 19:53 vyyye wrote:
On January 22 2011 19:47 whatever wrote:
Guess they don't know about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Hardly has anything to do with that, they didn't hide it as they publicly apologised. I don't quite get the purpose of this, it makes about as much sense as the outrage in this thread. Really, people? Does it in any way matter?

Actually, by censoring it they are the ones making a big deal out of this.

Hardly, they just removed an now unnecessary part of an interview. Yeah, they could've let it be but people already know of it. Who knows why they did it, who else but Gom?

The ones being real silly isn't Gom, it's the ones accusing Gom of blocking all porn from ever reaching Australia.


are you stupid?

Just because GOMtv said they were working on it and are aware of what jinro said doesnt make it 'unnecessary'

You cant censor shit very effectively on the internet, the comment section of that interview is already littered with links to the 'real' interview on youtube. GOM only shot themselves in the foot with this silly censor business.
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sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
January 22 2011 12:34 GMT
#53
On January 22 2011 21:29 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2011 21:20 sqrt wrote:
GOM holds the same power in SC2 that Kespa does in SC1.

Did you really just say that?

This evil corporation with their powerful grasp over SC2 in Korea also publicly apologised and said they would think of a way to prevent this issue from occurring again. They don't have to be 'above these things' as there has been nothing shady going on. I remind you again, they PUBLICLY apologised.

Man, why is everything a huge conspiracy and all corporations pure evil these days?


Whatcha talkin bout Willis? I myself said that it wasn't that much of an issue and am in agreement that GOM handled it well. Sometimes it's just good to remind people that their #1 company is selling Celestial Steads at 25$ a pop.
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InsaniaK
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden120 Posts
January 22 2011 12:35 GMT
#54
On January 22 2011 19:14 xBillehx wrote:
It's not really censorship if they made an official public statement about it. It's really no big deal, and they don't need forum threads popping up from people who JUST saw the interview complaining about a problem thats already been addressed. IMHO theres no need to make a big deal out of cutting a now irrelevant part of the interview out.


How is that an irrelevant part of the interview? He got a hint what build IdrA was going.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-22 12:40:51
January 22 2011 12:38 GMT
#55
On January 22 2011 21:32 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2011 20:05 vyyye wrote:
On January 22 2011 19:59 whatever wrote:
On January 22 2011 19:53 vyyye wrote:
On January 22 2011 19:47 whatever wrote:
Guess they don't know about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Hardly has anything to do with that, they didn't hide it as they publicly apologised. I don't quite get the purpose of this, it makes about as much sense as the outrage in this thread. Really, people? Does it in any way matter?

Actually, by censoring it they are the ones making a big deal out of this.

Hardly, they just removed an now unnecessary part of an interview. Yeah, they could've let it be but people already know of it. Who knows why they did it, who else but Gom?

The ones being real silly isn't Gom, it's the ones accusing Gom of blocking all porn from ever reaching Australia.


are you stupid?

Just because GOMtv said they were working on it and are aware of what jinro said doesnt make it 'unnecessary'

You cant censor shit very effectively on the internet, the comment section of that interview is already littered with links to the 'real' interview on youtube. GOM only shot themselves in the foot with this silly censor business.

Are you fucking braindead?
Does the above sentence do anything except make me look like an angsty teen? It really serves no purpose, aye?

Anyway, it does make it unnecessary, Gom aren't in any way obliged to share all information they have with you and as they did cover this issue there's no reason for it to remain in the interview, other than the apparent hatred for censorship around. Obviously people aren't happy with it, I just believe they are being unreasonable. Because it really doesn't bloody matter.

Yeah, you can't censor these kind of things easily and they obviously didn't do a great job. But considering that they even made a public announcement it's evident that they aren't trying to just "cover it up". I really don't get how people are reacting to this as if it was some huge scandal. They removed part of an interview and apologised for the issue elsewhere. So fucking what?


On January 22 2011 21:34 sqrt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2011 21:29 vyyye wrote:
On January 22 2011 21:20 sqrt wrote:
GOM holds the same power in SC2 that Kespa does in SC1.

Did you really just say that?

This evil corporation with their powerful grasp over SC2 in Korea also publicly apologised and said they would think of a way to prevent this issue from occurring again. They don't have to be 'above these things' as there has been nothing shady going on. I remind you again, they PUBLICLY apologised.

Man, why is everything a huge conspiracy and all corporations pure evil these days?


Whatcha talkin bout Willis? I myself said that it wasn't that much of an issue and am in agreement that GOM handled it well. Sometimes it's just good to remind people that their #1 company is selling Celestial Steads at 25$ a pop.

My bad, the post was more made to folks in general and less to you personally. Should have made that more clear, rereading it I can see that I definitely didn't make it clear at all. Sue me, got a headache and I'm out of coffee

User was temp banned for this post.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
January 22 2011 12:56 GMT
#56
i dont care if they censor it as long as they fix the issue so it doesnt happen again. theres a reason they sit in booths...
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 22 2011 13:05 GMT
#57
Stupid move on their part and I see no reason why they did this after they already addressed the issue.
dvide
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom287 Posts
January 22 2011 13:06 GMT
#58
This is almost as embarrassing as Quakecon photoshopping out the fat kid.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 22 2011 13:11 GMT
#59
This was completely unnecessary.

ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
January 22 2011 13:14 GMT
#60
On January 22 2011 21:38 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2011 21:32 ChickenLips wrote:
On January 22 2011 20:05 vyyye wrote:
On January 22 2011 19:59 whatever wrote:
On January 22 2011 19:53 vyyye wrote:
On January 22 2011 19:47 whatever wrote:
Guess they don't know about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Hardly has anything to do with that, they didn't hide it as they publicly apologised. I don't quite get the purpose of this, it makes about as much sense as the outrage in this thread. Really, people? Does it in any way matter?

Actually, by censoring it they are the ones making a big deal out of this.

Hardly, they just removed an now unnecessary part of an interview. Yeah, they could've let it be but people already know of it. Who knows why they did it, who else but Gom?

The ones being real silly isn't Gom, it's the ones accusing Gom of blocking all porn from ever reaching Australia.


are you stupid?

Just because GOMtv said they were working on it and are aware of what jinro said doesnt make it 'unnecessary'

You cant censor shit very effectively on the internet, the comment section of that interview is already littered with links to the 'real' interview on youtube. GOM only shot themselves in the foot with this silly censor business.

Are you fucking braindead?
Does the above sentence do anything except make me look like an angsty teen? It really serves no purpose, aye?

Anyway, it does make it unnecessary, Gom aren't in any way obliged to share all information they have with you and as they did cover this issue there's no reason for it to remain in the interview, other than the apparent hatred for censorship around. Obviously people aren't happy with it, I just believe they are being unreasonable. Because it really doesn't bloody matter.

Yeah, you can't censor these kind of things easily and they obviously didn't do a great job. But considering that they even made a public announcement it's evident that they aren't trying to just "cover it up". I really don't get how people are reacting to this as if it was some huge scandal. They removed part of an interview and apologised for the issue elsewhere. So fucking what?


wow

the amount of clueless you were able to instill into your post is quite astounding.

I'm no expert in law but I am 100% certain that GOM has to inform their customers of the possible flaws of their product (the GSL). Players being able to hear the commentators is a HUGE problem and threatens the entire credibility and value of the tournament. Afterall if I buy a car from Honda they better fucking tell me if the brakes have reliability issues.

They have released a public statement, but censoring the interview shows that they dont want to be 100% upfront about it and I dislike that they have done the bare minimum to diffuse the situation and then want to sweep it under the carpet as fast as possible.

If they hadn't made a public announcement the entire starcraft 2 community all around the world would be infuriated. What they are trying to do is essentially minimize the damages and keep a low profile about it, they want the least amount of people to know about it.

Its not about the game, its about the attitude GOM is showing towards its customers. Theyre not being 100% honest even when everyone knows the truth and its a damn shame

User was temp banned for this post.
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