EPTbut I've seen shoutcasts of Grubby on YouTube, him being Terran. That was however a while ago and he played poorly back then so ... yea ...
Grubby, a hybrid WC3/SC2 player - Page 7
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Vaethin
Germany44 Posts
but I've seen shoutcasts of Grubby on YouTube, him being Terran. That was however a while ago and he played poorly back then so ... yea ... | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On January 02 2011 00:33 Vaethin wrote: Dont know if this question has been answered yet, but I've seen shoutcasts of Grubby on YouTube, him being Terran. That was however a while ago and he played poorly back then so ... yea ... Apparently he's switched to Protoss. Incontrol and a couple of other people have said so. He played a show match back during the beta against GARIMTO as a Protoss as well. | ||
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Lennon
United Kingdom2275 Posts
On January 01 2011 21:34 Arceus wrote: It's not like Grubby will win every wc3 tourneys in 2011. I can name 5 chineses who are as good or better than Grubby (and they play wc3 fulltime). And I dont think Grubby can be that successful in SC2 as well. European ex-wc3 players have been kinda so so (like Nani, DeMuslim) and cant be compared with Korean ex-wc3 like Maka, Check, Zenio. Korean has all the environment advantages like teamhouse training, big tourney aka GSL etc. If they switch game to play SC2, they will be good in no time On a side note, both Lyn & Moon refused a big wc3 tourney in China in January to participate in GSL Code A, and FOX is likely to turn down another teamleague (with over €100K prize pool). That means Moon & Lyn may still play wc3 but sc2 will be their 1st priority in 2011 Zenio and TownHall (Maka) were never high level. Check, on the other hand, was a top pro on the same level as Grubby. DeMusliM was of much higher level than both Zenio and Maka at WC3. Naniwa was a mediocre semi-pro. My point is that there is a poor correlation between how good these players were at WC3 and how good they are at SC2. DeMusliM would destroy Naniwa at WC3 but, in SC2, it's very close. | ||
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Crawly
Philippines8 Posts
On January 01 2011 09:53 Gentso wrote: I think there's a lot of room for experimentation and creativity in Starcraft 2, and I think Grubby is the perfect man to explore it. this is exactly how i feel with grubby playing sc2. his dedication for wc3 is admirable but i think concentrating on just one game will produce much better results. i really hope he will someday switch to sc2 and play it with the same passion he played wc3 with. | ||
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sk`
Japan442 Posts
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magha
Netherlands427 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On January 02 2011 02:44 sk` wrote: If Grubby's chin and Jinro's chin fought, who would win? grubby's chin isn't stupid enough to pick a fight with jinro's chin | ||
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Lefnui
United States753 Posts
On January 01 2011 09:00 InvalidID wrote: Then you have obviously never seen Chinese DOTA, and that is a very disrespectful comment of yours towards the DOTA pros. High level DOTA teams practice at least as much as pro Starcraft players, and are very, very trained at the game. To even compete at a low level in the US you have to practice many hours a day. That said, DOTA does not really fit into the RTS genre, and team-play is just as important, if not more important, then individual skill. Not that I want to start a DOTA versus X flame-fight here. No, you're absolutely wrong. I'm familiar with the DotA scene, and it's absolutely nothing compared to WC3 or BW. The level of skill, the amount of training, nothing is comparable. It's an extremely newb-friendly game with a pathetic level of competition in comparison. No macro, no multitasking, no units. One hero, a single hero. If you think that's comparable to what's required in WC3 then you know nothing of it. | ||
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
On January 02 2011 02:44 sk` wrote: Grubby could easily outmicro Jinro's chin. If Grubby's chin and Jinro's chin fought, who would win?  | ||
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Zim23
United States1681 Posts
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mdma-_-
Nauru1213 Posts
On January 02 2011 09:39 Lefnui wrote: No, you're absolutely wrong. I'm familiar with the DotA scene, and it's absolutely nothing compared to WC3 or BW. The level of skill, the amount of training, nothing is comparable. It's an extremely newb-friendly game with a pathetic level of competition in comparison. No macro, no multitasking, no units. One hero, a single hero. If you think that's comparable to what's required in WC3 then you know nothing of it. pls dont we already had that discussion like ~3 years ago... | ||
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GeneticToss
Canada188 Posts
 Also stop comparing him with other WC3 players, I mean there's no comparing Maka and Grubby, it's like comparing Artosis with Jaedong. Well they were both BW players and Artosis isn't doing so good so I don't think Jaedong will be good at SC2... You can however compare him to Moon and I don't think you can call Moon's results mediocre, playing part-time (1k ladder games is not alot compared to players who train 10+hours a day doing custom games against there teamates) and still getting RO32 in GSL3 and pretty much dominating his code A qualifiers, 5-1.. | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
Once this game takes a full swing and we start seeing the level of play that BW has been showing in the last few years (4-5 we'll say) then it's not going to be possible to be only partially committed no matter your experiance in another RTS game. War3 and SC2 are way too different to be compared in terms of ethier macro or micro. Micro in war3 has more to offer but you can get away with alot more mistakes due to the slow paced game-play (in comparison to sc2...and not to say it's easy or w/e but it's alot more forgiving) and the addition of hero units that can render most strategies compeltely ineffective (blade masters + 2-3 items anyone? LOL pathetic balancing...) and macro in war3 is just so different from sc2. Anyways point i'm trying to make is that yes grubby is a good player but he's not going to be as successful in a full-strength sc2 circuit once players are actually able to play this game correctly and adjust/adapt strategies more efficiently. Right now there are alot of games where one person just falls over because they made a mistake in their unit comp or build order. Not to mention even moon/lyn showed massive gaps in their skill level between them and top-tier opponents (moon vs jinro anyone? jinro had a walk in the park fighting moon honestly...) due to the fact that their RTS experiance differs so much from what SC2 is based around. TL:DR He won't be competitive at all once this game starts taking off if he doesn't choose one over the other. The longer he delays the farther he'll be behind. K ready for my lesson on how I don't know anything about war3 or sc2 now! | ||
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OdnoB
Canada61 Posts
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On January 02 2011 10:07 GeneticToss wrote: A team like EHOME is anything but pathetic Also stop comparing him with other WC3 players, I mean there's no comparing Maka and Grubby, it's like comparing Artosis with Jaedong. Well they were both BW players and Artosis isn't doing so good so I don't think Jaedong will be good at SC2... You can however compare him to Moon and I don't think you can call Moon's results mediocre, playing part-time (1k ladder games is not alot compared to players who train 10+hours a day doing custom games against there teamates) and still getting RO32 in GSL3 and pretty much dominating his code A qualifiers, 5-1.. They're mediocre for someone who is used to being the best. Listen, the reason these results are mediocre is because this isn't just some guy trying to do his best in weekly tournies or whatever. He is someone who wants to compete at the top, top level in esports. He has done that in WC3. Beating Pippi and August and such does not qualify him as such for SC2. I'll see him as giving a mediocre performance until he beats someone who I think is genuinely a top, top player. Judging by the way he was playing against Jinro and in the A class qualifiers, I do not think that will happen soon. Moon is a talented guy. He seems to understand something about how to play and practice for RTSes that allows him to give these performances with the practice he's had(i don't know the exact numbers for how he stacks up against August or ButterflyEffect in terms of practice time, for example, but I suspect he's doing better than them for his practice time) but right now I still think he's half-assing it. Like an Einstein-level genius half-assing a tough physics course and getting a C-. Yeah, it's a hard course, but he still half-assed it and underperformed. | ||
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Contagious
United States1319 Posts
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LynxKerr
Canada173 Posts
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hewtrain
Australia89 Posts
On January 01 2011 08:09 travis wrote: did you wake up on the wrong side of the fucking bed? every single post you made in this thread you sound like a fucking whining asshat, i dont give a shit how many posts you have, you are a fucking douche.. P.S On January 01 2011 07:38 ffz wrote: Stop with this bs aobut "one of the greatest ever in wc3". He is THE greatest... His micro and macro are both so amazing. Plus his mind is made for strategy. get a clue + Show Spoiler + Moon User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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ItsFunToLose
United States776 Posts
I actually noticed large amounts of synergy in terms of skill improvement when I switched between wc3 and sc1 back and forth and back and forth. My micro improved tremendously after a session of 1v1 wc3. | ||
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