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Grubby, a hybrid WC3/SC2 player

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chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
December 31 2010 20:30 GMT
#1
Grubby is going to be a hybrid WC3/SC2 player "for some time to come." I rarely followed WC3 but even I know that this is worth talking about.. Source: ESFI.com

With the announcement of Assembly's Winter 2011 StarCraft 2 tournament came an even more exciting one in Manuel "Grubby" Schenkhuizen being officially registered to compete. The tournament will mark the beginning of the WarCraft 3 superstar's professional StarCraft 2 career. However, in a statement to ESFI World, he clarified that he will remain a "hybrid" player for some time to come, playing in both StarCraft 2 and WarCraft 3 tournaments in 2011: "So long as there are good WarCraft 3 tournaments around for me to participate in, I will play them with vigor and enthusiasm."


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Schenkhuizen will make his StarCraft 2 LAN debut at the Assembly Winter 2011 event, which takes place from February 11th to the 13th. Undeniably, he will not be a favorite to win or even place in the top 8 - and he agrees: "I won't be going into the Assembly Steel Series Challenge as the favorite, seeing as how I've only just started."
He's right. The competition at the event is formidable, with players such as HuK, Socke, Kas, DeMusliM, Naniwa, SjoW and recent Dreamhack Winter 2010 winner Naama scheduled to attend. And that's only the short list.


I guess my question is, how well will he do as a hybrid player? Yeah, he doesn't expect to walk in and win immediately but even months from now, can he win as a hybrid player? Maybe I underestimate him but I can't see how he (or anyone, really) can play the two games at the highest level and be successful at both. On the other hand, I don't know the WC3 schedule for 2011 - if it's light, if Grubby's focus can stay on SC2, then perhaps he'll show us something special. Anyone have any insight on that?

Either way, there are some awesome players going to Finland. It should be tough for him.
:O
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
December 31 2010 20:33 GMT
#2
Hmm, that seems to be the fate of a decent number of top WC3 players. Moon's currently doing the same thing. I hope he doesn't do as (relatively) poorly as Moon has in trying to do both.
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Wollhead
Profile Joined October 2010
63 Posts
December 31 2010 20:34 GMT
#3
Will he play zerg like moon?
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 20:37:20
December 31 2010 20:36 GMT
#4
On January 01 2011 05:34 Wollhead wrote:
Will he play zerg like moon?


I think he plays protoss, at least incontrol said that. But last time I checked he was random in Assembly tournament. But that maybe just a mistake because they didn't know his race yet.

I'm trusting incontrol and say that probably toss ^^
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
December 31 2010 20:37 GMT
#5
you need to use your whole ass to get to the top in sc2, I don't expect him to be at the top until months after he stops playing wc3 completely.
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
December 31 2010 20:38 GMT
#6
On January 01 2011 05:33 Kibibit wrote:
Hmm, that seems to be the fate of a decent number of top WC3 players. Moon's currently doing the same thing. I hope he doesn't do as (relatively) poorly as Moon has in trying to do both.

I would hardly call moon's results poor. He did make it to the Ro16 in GSL 3. Just such a strange comment. I agree he has work to do to be a top player, but his results so far are just fine.
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ffz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States490 Posts
December 31 2010 20:38 GMT
#7
grubby is my favorite wc3 player of all time! I hope he makes some super awesome builds that i can steal jsut like his orc builds. I remember cheering for him so much every time he played! Omg this is amazing news.
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Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
December 31 2010 20:41 GMT
#8
Does he get his name from his hair? It looks kinda "grubby"
A.J.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States209 Posts
December 31 2010 20:44 GMT
#9
On January 01 2011 05:41 Fa1nT wrote:
Does he get his name from his hair? It looks kinda "grubby"

Haha I see what you did there.
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IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
December 31 2010 20:51 GMT
#10
On January 01 2011 05:33 Kibibit wrote:
Hmm, that seems to be the fate of a decent number of top WC3 players. Moon's currently doing the same thing. I hope he doesn't do as (relatively) poorly as Moon has in trying to do both.


Yeah making it deep in GSL 3 is pretty lousy. (?) Idiotic.

As an 8 year WC3 player, I welcome the legends! Now we need TilleRMan to come out of retirement...
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Lefnui
Profile Joined November 2008
United States753 Posts
December 31 2010 20:52 GMT
#11
I think that he should be able to do it quite comfortably. He has so much experience and skill in WC3 that he could probably focus almost all of his training time into SC2. And the WC3 scene is extremely weak compared to what it was before. Even before all the players moved to SC2 the scene was practically dead.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 20:55:33
December 31 2010 20:55 GMT
#12
As much as I'd like him to dominate, I don't think he's a real contender just yet. I hope we're going to see some interesting unit compositions and micro from him, but knowing how and when to be greedy is really important in an economy based RTS like SC2 and it's the kind of thing you only get a feel for after having played a shit-ton.

Or, you know ...he's just going to own I hope I'm in for a good suprise.
I think esports is pretty nice.
majestouch
Profile Joined December 2010
United States395 Posts
December 31 2010 20:55 GMT
#13
how is moon as a hybrid player? i know nothing of war3 pretty much but I know "grubby" and "moon". And if moon got into the GSL ro32? ro16? w/e he got to and only practice for a few weeks b4 GSL, the sky is the limit. once grubby learns the syntax for sc2 as opposed to wc3 he will most likely be very good. And I wouldn't be surprised if he made top 8, sc2 is a lot of about luck seeing how big of a joke allins are atm.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 20:59:36
December 31 2010 20:57 GMT
#14
On January 01 2011 05:37 Zurles wrote:
you need to use your whole ass to get to the top in sc2, I don't expect him to be at the top until months after he stops playing wc3 completely.


i agree, i expect him to get his ass handed to him by good players

so the moral of the story is use your whole ass or get it handed to you
Jager
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom140 Posts
December 31 2010 20:59 GMT
#15
hes a great guy, hope he does well enough in sc2 to switch if WC3 dies.
Adaelden
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada43 Posts
December 31 2010 21:00 GMT
#16
did it say what race he plays?
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Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
December 31 2010 21:02 GMT
#17
On January 01 2011 05:55 majestouch wrote:
how is moon as a hybrid player? i know nothing of war3 pretty much but I know "grubby" and "moon". And if moon got into the GSL ro32? ro16? w/e he got to and only practice for a few weeks b4 GSL, the sky is the limit. once grubby learns the syntax for sc2 as opposed to wc3 he will most likely be very good. And I wouldn't be surprised if he made top 8, sc2 is a lot of about luck seeing how big of a joke allins are atm.


People keep saying this but Moon had like a thousand games under his belt on his ladder account and was pretty active before his GSL matches, and again before his code A tiebreakers. He was definitely practicing hard, and he's been playing the game off and on since beta.
lol.Froste
Profile Joined January 2010
United States112 Posts
December 31 2010 21:09 GMT
#18
On January 01 2011 05:57 travis wrote:
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On January 01 2011 05:37 Zurles wrote:
you need to use your whole ass to get to the top in sc2, I don't expect him to be at the top until months after he stops playing wc3 completely.


i agree, i expect him to get his ass handed to him by good players

so the moral of the story is use your whole ass or get it handed to you


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InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
December 31 2010 21:11 GMT
#19
I've never played WC3 or cared for the game from a spectators points of view. That said it will still be interesting to watch him play Starcraft. his name does make you stop and take notice even if he may not be very good at the game right away.
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SpiritAshura
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1271 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 21:15:18
December 31 2010 21:14 GMT
#20
On January 01 2011 06:11 InToTheWannaB wrote:
I've never played WC3 or cared for the game from a spectators points of view. That said it will still be interesting to watch him play Starcraft. his name does make you stop and take notice even if he may not be very good at the game right away.

Is anyone? (The answer is no)

Anyways just give it time, if SC2 takes over China chances are tournaments for WC3 will die out and he'll dedicate his time fully to SC2. I swear, people on these forums act as if you ever do anything other than SC2 you will fail miserably and die in a fire or something.
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