EPTGrubby, a hybrid WC3/SC2 player - Page 4
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Hinduuism
United States47 Posts
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Mindtwist
Lithuania108 Posts
 He definitely has my support | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On January 01 2011 08:06 Hinduuism wrote: If people are good at RTS then they're good at RTS. Starcraft 2 is a cool game and all but I don't understand how people think he'll fail to be successful when he's got complete domination over a game that's so similar. He doesn't need to mass 1k+ games to understand what his opponent is capable of and how to exploit it. this shows how little you understand about being great at games as deep as sc2 the best players play all the freaking time, it is their lives and wc3 isn't even that similar.. | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On January 01 2011 08:06 Hinduuism wrote: If people are good at RTS then they're good at RTS. Starcraft 2 is a cool game and all but I don't understand how people think he'll fail to be successful when he's got complete domination over a game that's so similar. He doesn't need to mass 1k+ games to understand what his opponent is capable of and how to exploit it. At the pro level, Starcraft 2 requires more than just your everyday laddering experience. You make it sound as if its a simple matter for him to understand the game and his opponents, when in reality the game is constantly changing and evolving. It's not a 500 piece puzzle that can simply be solved, its as if you're constantly putting together pieces of an ever changing puzzle so that it can never be fully complete. If he continues to play WC3 he will not be able to focus on SC2 as much as other pros, meaning other pros will be more prepared, plain and simple. And all RTS's aren't the same, and a prime example of that is WC3 compared to SC2. WC3 is of course much more micro based and unit/hero control than is Starcraft 2 which is more Economy management and Macro Management. Not to say certainly some aspects of playing WC3 won't improve his gameplay, but I definitely think it is a faulty assumption to say that by playing WC3 at such a high level he'll be sooo great at SC2 b/c they're both "RTSs". Fact of the matter is they are two very different games. | ||
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arctics86
Germany797 Posts
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Imbu
United States903 Posts
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BetterFasterStronger
United States604 Posts
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Logarythm
United States264 Posts
Also, it'll be interesting if he brings a War3 flair to the game. Micro is fun to watch ^^ | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
And if Moon and Lyn can get code A while alternating then Grubby should certainly be able to atleast compete at top EU/NA level. It's unreasonable to expect him to rack up tournament wins and such, his aim for SC2 in 2011 will probably be to fall not too far behind the others before he finally switches. | ||
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ccHaZaRd
Canada1024 Posts
On January 01 2011 08:24 BetterFasterStronger wrote: Protoss needs a legend to play it. Tester hasn't been performing oGsMC man, tester was so beta phase | ||
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TrainFX
United States469 Posts
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Lennon
United Kingdom2275 Posts
On January 01 2011 07:21 travis wrote: if thats what he maxes out at I can't help but think it sounds like a failure top 5 europe when the top players are all in korea in wc3 isn't he regarded as the best ever? that's like flash switching to sc2 and having trouble placing top 4 in some NA tournament That's true but I didn't want to come across as fanboyish so I toned it down. I meant out of the European players regardless of where they are in the world, he'll be in the top 5 throughout the life of SC2. | ||
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
What he really accomplished in WC3 was strategic innovation. Back in 2003, before Grubby was on the radar, the forums were awash in Orc tears. Grubby changed that all in a handful of weeks, showcasing unseen strategies like his grunt/far seer/catapult agression, then later innovating with raiders, which were previously rarely seen at the highest levels. Ever since he came along, Orc is now "OP". If he can accomplish similar results in SC2 then he will be great, but that remains to be seen. It also remains to be seen whether his slower playstyle will transition well into SC2 where you have a lot more units to micro, but Protoss seems to be a good fit for him. | ||
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Lefnui
United States753 Posts
On January 01 2011 08:33 TrainFX wrote: Nice, he should start playing DoTa or HoN too. Oh for the love of god no. Although, I'll bet he could compete at highest level of dota with 30 mins of practice a day. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
On January 01 2011 08:54 Lefnui wrote: Oh for the love of god no. Although, I'll bet he could compete at highest level of dota with 30 mins of practice a day. Then you have obviously never seen Chinese DOTA, and that is a very disrespectful comment of yours towards the DOTA pros. High level DOTA teams practice at least as much as pro Starcraft players, and are very, very trained at the game. To even compete at a low level in the US you have to practice many hours a day. That said, DOTA does not really fit into the RTS genre, and team-play is just as important, if not more important, then individual skill. Not that I want to start a DOTA versus X flame-fight here. | ||
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Blitzer
Australia243 Posts
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Lennon
United Kingdom2275 Posts
On January 01 2011 08:54 Lefnui wrote: Oh for the love of god no. Although, I'll bet he could compete at highest level of dota with 30 mins of practice a day. I think TrainFX was trolling. | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
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ch0c0b0fr34k
United States452 Posts
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