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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
Anyway. I am not sold on this story yet. I demand way more evidence before I judge them. In my eyes, they will be innocent until proven guilty. Also, they were sitting right next to each other. They could have just fucking talked about it, lol. On a lighter note, I asked SjoW how his name is pronounced. Its "Show"  | ||
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SiCkO_
United States481 Posts
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Mattz12
Canada15 Posts
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QQmonster
Canada240 Posts
Whatever the case, this evidence isn't good enough. Even so, I don't think speculated pre-crime is grounds to disqualify 2 of the tournaments best players. | ||
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
Second, if they were serious about going through with this, why stream it? It only takes a few mouse clicks to turn of the stream. | ||
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T-P-S
United States204 Posts
On December 22 2010 15:03 ShootingStars wrote: okay whatever, call it however, but you guys failed to realize they are both in agreement. User was warned for this post In three pages of replies only a couple of people actually explained the problem with fixing professional sporting matches to you. If you still don't understand, it's that player behavior like this is regulated by the official body of the sport because the financial support (the fans) want to watch matches in which the outcome is determined by who is better, period. That's what gives the sport an air of excitement and justifies 'fandom' as an activity. If the players or teams or league decide who wins on a basis other than player ability, then they aren't fulfilling the demands of the fans who keep the sport in business. So it doesn't matter that the players are in agreement (and I assure you that we didn't 'fail to realize' that), because the players are there to serve the fans. The first place prize is their reward for doing so. They don't get to all group up and decide who it should go to, because it's not theirs. | ||
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
In this case there's obviously evidence but it's not exactly proof, and usually you don't talk about it on stream (is that what happened?). | ||
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Saafen
Sweden79 Posts
To make it clear, you have to win 11 of 16 cups for The Big Prize. There for morrow and sjow decided to give the win to one of them, and then split the big prize. | ||
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FearGorm
United States112 Posts
On December 22 2010 14:57 ShootingStars wrote: your point? if you arent the better player it doesnt matter really =/ if you want to stop them from match fixing, go to the tournament and beat them so they cant fix the final matchfixing is FINE. it doesnt affect you... they ARE top players. Nice try, Morrow. | ||
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Marl
United States694 Posts
Don't say it's just an agreement between the players, it's not. | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On December 22 2010 15:20 Redmark wrote: Either way, how do you enforce this exactly? If someone decides to throw a match you can't prove anything. It's not really something you can prevent. In this case there's obviously evidence but it's not exactly proof, and usually you don't talk about it on stream (is that what happened?). It raises the question why you would participate in a tournament and even joke about throwing a match in a tell on a stream in the first place? If the allegations are true than I say throw them out of professional starcraft all together. | ||
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
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xelorion
11 Posts
This was no joke it was real. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On December 22 2010 15:24 xelorion wrote: I actually saw this live on his stream. Morrow asked Sjow if he could have the computer and then he would give Sjow all the other stuff that he won so he could sell it so sjow could get money. But sjow didnt like this he wanted to sell the computer and split the cash. This was no joke it was real. But why would they type it, while streaming, when they were sitting next to each other? | ||
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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nbaker
United States1342 Posts
If these rumors are true, I agree with you all that it would be wrong for Morrow and Sjow to do this, but I can see why ShootingStar would disagree, especially if he comes from a competitive gaming background where prizes were driven by the players rather than by sponsorship and audience. | ||
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Enervate
United States1769 Posts
If someone finds out the answers to a test ahead of time, it's cheating. If two people make an arrangement to cheat off each other on a test, it is still cheating. People who don't think matchfixing is cheating are confusing cheating with hacking. | ||
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Hikko
United States1126 Posts
Is match fixing bad? Yes, it is the bane of any competition. This can't be proven, though, except from this "screen capture of his stream" (which is a very sketchy and unreliable source due to the ease of doctoring images), unless there is a real confession from Sjow or Morrow. Perhaps I misunderstand the situation, but I would question the authenticity of that screenshot of the stream before I questioned if these two players were really match fixing. | ||
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xelorion
11 Posts
On December 22 2010 15:25 vOdToasT wrote: But why would they type it, while streaming, when they were sitting next to each other? What are you talking about? They werent sitting next to each other. They were home at each others house streaming. | ||
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