• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:57
CEST 04:57
KST 11:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 224ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 ZOWIE DIVINA preview Server Blocker StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BW General Discussion
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5976 users

You can break a Zealot wall with Zerglings. - Page 5

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 18 19 20 Next All
kmkkmk
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany418 Posts
December 07 2010 20:19 GMT
#81
On December 08 2010 04:53 FrogOfWar wrote:
Many people who show themselves shocked by this seem to assume that without this trick it was impossible for the lings to get in. But guess what, you can also kill the zealot. Just sacrifice a few lings, constantly reinforce and bam, you're in ezpz. I've been having some fun with that because Toss players don't expect it and think they just need one zealot shouting "you shall not pass" and nothing gets in :D


Yet still it is terrible that you can force enemy units to move when they are set to hold position.
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
December 07 2010 20:19 GMT
#82
We need Manlots back, not these guys who call themselves warriors when they can't even standstill.
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
December 07 2010 20:22 GMT
#83
Not too surprising. That's why they always shout "We cannot hold.".
traca
Profile Joined October 2010
146 Posts
December 07 2010 20:23 GMT
#84
winwin
PaPoolee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands660 Posts
December 07 2010 20:24 GMT
#85
WOW i just tried it vs a friend and it actually works... and people have done it to me over and over again on ladder and i was thinking that i didn't put my zealot on hold o.o wow this blows for protoss!.
Gr4ndmasterSexy
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany27 Posts
December 07 2010 20:25 GMT
#86
the zerg attacks in the moment you have 1 zealot and max 1 other unit, stalker/sentry/zealot... so you need to hold arround 12 lings vs 1 zealot+1 other gateway unit. shortly after it another 8 lings follow.

i think this is just impossible to stop with a standard bo right now. testet it several times and its just impossible to stop, it reall is. even if i got a sentry out, what is not this much of a problem, it changes nothing, i can block his lings for a few seconds but i cant get a second sentry out, or warpgates ready.

my thoughts: its impossible to stop if you dont do a complete wall-in or a cannon opening... what ever.

the thing is: you cant scout it... the clanmate i testet against just did a standard speedling build, what is not this uncommon. so i cant know if bug abuse will come... so i need to do a cannon opening or complete wall-in prophylactically
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
December 07 2010 20:26 GMT
#87
On December 08 2010 05:22 brentsen wrote:
Not too surprising. That's why they always shout "We cannot hold.".


LOL!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
December 07 2010 20:27 GMT
#88
On December 08 2010 05:22 brentsen wrote:
Not too surprising. That's why they always shout "We cannot hold.".


Hahaha awesome
Scio
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany522 Posts
December 07 2010 20:30 GMT
#89
On December 08 2010 03:49 MindRush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2010 03:42 Scio wrote:
some things better be undiscovered forever......THATS ONE OF THEM!!!!


i bet you hate the OP now


Mhhh not really and by that i mean sometimes i spawn Zerg when playing Random against Toss....
"Did you know that in the original batman movie they casted nestea as joker but when batman threw him into the acid he was fine so they had to recast it with Jack Nicholson......it's a true fact" -Artosis
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
December 07 2010 20:31 GMT
#90
Can you give a link to the map in question? It doesn't look like the Unit Tester map I'm familiar with and I want to try some stuff with this >.>
Like a G6
Euriti
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark72 Posts
December 07 2010 20:34 GMT
#91
This needs to be patched if it is actually true. As a zerg player I could be an asshole and just say that it's fine but it truly isn't.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 07 2010 20:36 GMT
#92
you could push the zealot out with drone sliding which would be far easier couldn't you ? never tested it when i was playing zerg. But i would suggest the toss player just attacks then if they try this, since the zealot wouldn't possible be pushed away then.
theherder2
Profile Joined September 2010
United States538 Posts
December 07 2010 20:50 GMT
#93
On December 08 2010 05:36 FeyFey wrote:
you could push the zealot out with drone sliding which would be far easier couldn't you ? never tested it when i was playing zerg. But i would suggest the toss player just attacks then if they try this, since the zealot wouldn't possible be pushed away then.



so say i was zerg (i play toss) if i mineral click through, and press stop when the drone is right on top of the zealot, does the zealot move away? (assuming i'm really quick and the drone doesn't die)
Avid221
Profile Joined March 2010
United States63 Posts
December 07 2010 20:52 GMT
#94
I just tried this with a friend as well. Clicking behind the zealot doesn't work. But if you spam click in front of the zealot, even on your own zerglings half the time, the zealot slowly starts to get pushed back.

Pretty gg.
TiBe
Profile Joined November 2009
Mexico200 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-07 20:57:55
December 07 2010 20:57 GMT
#95
While it's surprising (it happened to me several times but I thought it was a zealot misplacement), it's no so game breaking since you can make a complete wall with another pylon anyway :-)

Edit: However it should be patched as soon as possible
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
December 07 2010 20:58 GMT
#96
Thank GOD all the Zergs are out of the GSL so we don't have to watch Protoss players get thrown out because of this.
slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-07 21:11:55
December 07 2010 21:11 GMT
#97
So would walling off with a stalker on hold position be a good solution to this? Stalkers also are better for defending against baneling busts, right?
I get it.
SnowSC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States678 Posts
December 07 2010 21:14 GMT
#98
you can also just attack the buildings. most of the time you can have you zerglings hittin something, and if he only has a zealot he'll need to move it or you can damage it pretty bad. I just did this a couple games ago and got the gateway to like half health since he waited for a sentry.

But yeah neat find
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 07 2010 21:15 GMT
#99
On December 08 2010 05:50 theherder2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2010 05:36 FeyFey wrote:
you could push the zealot out with drone sliding which would be far easier couldn't you ? never tested it when i was playing zerg. But i would suggest the toss player just attacks then if they try this, since the zealot wouldn't possible be pushed away then.



so say i was zerg (i play toss) if i mineral click through, and press stop when the drone is right on top of the zealot, does the zealot move away? (assuming i'm really quick and the drone doesn't die)

No. The drone will move not the zealot.
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
December 07 2010 21:15 GMT
#100
What about Stalkers? Sentries? Probes?
One Love
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 18 19 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
11:30
XXIX - Playoffs Final Day
TaKeTV206
Rex75
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft585
PiGStarcraft581
Nina 92
Rex 75
FoxeR 42
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3042
GuemChi 2765
Artosis 584
Mind 67
Aegong 62
Bale 31
yabsab 27
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm165
League of Legends
Doublelift4703
Counter-Strike
summit1g9545
Fnx 1208
taco 271
Other Games
JimRising 681
Maynarde116
UpATreeSC43
RuFF_SC219
JuggernautJason10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick31589
BasetradeTV231
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream122
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 84
• Mapu7
• OhrlRock 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1136
• Jankos401
Upcoming Events
GSL
8h 4m
Replay Cast
21h 4m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 8h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 21h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.