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uurrnn
United States19 Posts
On December 04 2010 11:29 Asshat wrote: Oh the irony of watching zergs complain about highly mobile light air harass. What? I don't think zergs are complaining about highly mobile light air harass, but more of the nerf of one of their only useful offensive spells. | ||
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D1pstick
United States106 Posts
I still can't believe this is an actually thing. How on earth was that a bug? I seriously don't want to go 4srrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr to make roaches... | ||
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Mitchlew
Australia428 Posts
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On December 04 2010 11:33 leecH wrote: zergs stop crying we cant put pylons under your ramp anymore but have our phoenix out slightly faster. seems fair to me! whats the deal with that race and the complaining.. i dont get it... Pylon blocks are manageable. | ||
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Chewie
Denmark708 Posts
-- Infestor Fungal Growth no longer affects air units. what wow Infestors really didnt need a nerf... | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On December 04 2010 11:34 MonsieurGrimm wrote: pssst..... minerals not gas. dont shoot me D: yeah i fixed it lol anyways, i DO suspect that protoss air will be OP vs zerg. and if they keep the fungal change they are def gonna need to buff hydra speed, no real reason not to also, i have trouble agreeing with everyone saying mutalisk is going to dominate zvz now. i guess myabe it will... but for the cost doesn't hydra/roach beat muta/ling in headon collision? but i don't play z so it's something i'd like to hear from dem zergs | ||
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Ksi
357 Posts
On December 04 2010 11:35 travis wrote: yeah i fixed it lol anyways, i DO suspect that protoss air will be OP vs zerg. and if they keep the fungal change they are def gonna need to buff hydra speed, no real reason not to phoenixes also two shot workers. But seriously, I'd trade no fungal vs air for faster hydras and/or queens any day honestly, or just make fungal's area of effect larger but now it only slows instead of immobilizing. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
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SKtheAnathema
United States885 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On December 04 2010 11:32 travis wrote: u forgot to add *don't hit ground* and *shots dont bounce* *costs 50% more gas* since we are counting everything they do hit ground with graviton beam they do significantly more damage even if you count bounce damage. But how would i expect someone who comes to an arguement not even knowing how much the unit theyre arguing about cost. Youre either completely clueless or are a troll. | ||
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Disastorm
United States922 Posts
However it is interesting to note that the bunker change was specifically marked as being ONLY intended for test server. Why would they purposely intend a change ONLY for test server, thats a bit odd? | ||
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Nyx
Rwanda460 Posts
It's going to buff the hell out of the ultra. | ||
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zomgad
185 Posts
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
On December 04 2010 11:32 vyyye wrote: Didn't Fruitdealer get knocked out by a 2rax in GSL2, believe it was Foxer who did it on Jungle Basin? This was when the 2rax was new and the metagame hasn't quite shifted yet. | ||
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On December 04 2010 11:37 Cpadolf wrote: Clearly Terran needed help to be able to bunker rush easier. Obviously Fungal Growth can't affect air units, otherwise dropship harass would be too hard for Terran. Indeed very reasonable changes. yeah cause hitting d and clicking places then pushing the front with your army is a lot harder than trying to deal with 5 different areas of attack at the same time | ||
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Gudeldar
United States1200 Posts
On December 04 2010 11:30 Sfydjklm wrote: Just like mutas, except Faster More hp Bigger range Smaller attack cooldown No counter in zerg army More expensive Can't hit ground | ||
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Shifft
Canada1085 Posts
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adeezy
United States1428 Posts
On December 04 2010 11:37 Sfydjklm wrote: they do hit ground with graviton beam they do significantly more damage even if you count bounce damage. But how would i expect someone who comes to an arguement not even knowing how much the unit theyre arguing about cost. Youre either completely clueless or are a troll. I'm with travis on this one.... he's a forum veteran... Phoenix as far as I know have never relaly been declared as OP. To compare them to the muta is kind of silly.... | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
On December 04 2010 11:25 darkscream wrote: So let me get this straight. Blizzard made it so PvP won't be 90% Colossi wars, but made it so ZvZ will be 90% muta wars. Huh. If they want to change ZvT and ZvP, Fungal Growth is not the answer. All this change does is ruin ZvZ. No kidding. This is the first thing I thought as well. I mean, I like mutas, but as long as hydras are light units, I can't see muta/ling/baneling NOT being the new standard. Hydras aren't exactly cheap ya know. And the removal of fungal as AA means there's one less option for Zergs to deal with drops. Just as I was considering a quick infestation pit > energy upgrade > infestors as an alternative to mutas. That said, us Zergs DO have options. There's mutas, and also, since we can spread creep to the edges of our bases now, a spore or two could deter drops on drop-friendly maps like Scrap Station. 2 or 3 spores are cheap compared to the trouble of getting dropped. Anyway, I guess I'll continue my non-use of infestors. Observer cost change from 50/100 to 25/75 is pretty big too I think. Protoss can actually afford to pump out a few observers now. | ||
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