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On December 02 2010 11:38 Slow Motion wrote:
It's like a reading comprehension question.
The OP's description on the Razer mouse is:
A) The main topic of the thread.
B) A humorous anecdote.
C) An allusion to T.S. Elliot's The Waste Land.
D) An introduction to his main point.
I'm going to have to go with "C". If there is one thing that I learned in college it's always pick the answer that sounds the smartest.
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APM may have come a long ways, but average TL member's reading comprehension levels...
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Amazing, I did not know that APM had its roots in TL. I just saw it in the BWcharts and thought it was a 'common' measurement. Well then, to the creator, add another random person in the world crediting you for 'APM'.
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On December 02 2010 11:42 slam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 11:38 Slow Motion wrote:
It's like a reading comprehension question.
The OP's description on the Razer mouse is:
A) The main topic of the thread.
B) A humorous anecdote.
C) An allusion to T.S. Elliot's The Waste Land.
D) An introduction to his main point. I'm going to have to go with "C". If there is one thing that I learned in college it's always pick the answer that sounds the smartest.
Haha, I almost replied with a similar justification for the same answer! :D
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It seems like a lot of people are missing the fact that the underlined section "Who invented APM?" is actually a URL.
Then again, maybe they just stopped reading after seeing the Razer product link.
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APM is snyonimous with RTS gaming and skill, dexterity, and level of play.
Knowing that it was invented here on TL.net by a TL.net forum go'er is very inspiring.
Makes you think what TL.net will do next that will have an impact on an entire genre!
Go tl.net! TL.net INVENTING!!!!!!!!
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Ok OP this just goes to show you, never mention something bright and flashy in your topic if it is not the main point of the topic; people are attracted to bright and flashy, and will ignore anything, however intelligent it may be, over bright and flashy.
And this thread looks like it could be the origin of APM, that's pretty cool.
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I had no idea the term and theory behind APM was coined by a TL user, I always just assumed it was something the Koreans came up with. I guess you learn something new every day.
Now if only you'd put a patent out on that shit... heh
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This thread is an awesome example of how many people are too post hungry to read anything! Very entertaining though.
I remember the days of BW back before APM was something that was discussed and recorded. I even remember when BWChart was released and APM was the hugest fad ever. My APM at the time was like 125 and my friend and I used to have competitions on who could get higher APM while still playing well.
Ah the good old days, this thread really makes me reminisce :D Thanks for this, really cool thread and a reminder of the great times I used to have playing SC and BW!
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Wow, pretty nifty seeing old threads like those. I love how there were already seeds for the apm vs skill debate all the way back then.
I was actually surprised that the thread was from 2003-ish -- I'd have thought that APM would have come about a couple of years earlier. I always forget that though SC has been around for a hella long time as far as video games go, it's still fairly young in the grand scheme of things.
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So... this is going straight into the thread hall of fame, right? I've never seen such an epic honeytrap.
On topic: who invented superview? What exactly was the program used for, besides measuring something that hadn't been exactly invented yet?
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On December 02 2010 11:53 MiniTsunami wrote:
This thread is an awesome example of how many people are too post hungry to read anything! Very entertaining though.
I remember the days of BW back before APM was something that was discussed and recorded. I even remember when BWChart was released and APM was the hugest fad ever. My APM at the time was like 125 and my friend and I used to have competitions on who could get higher APM while still playing well.
Ah the good old days, this thread really makes me reminisce :D Thanks for this, really cool thread and a reminder of the great times I used to have playing SC and BW!
Speaking of the good old days, any relation to 1st~Tsunami?
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On December 02 2010 11:38 Slow Motion wrote:
It's like a reading comprehension question.
The OP's description on the Razer mouse is:
A) The main topic of the thread.
B) A humorous anecdote.
C) An allusion to T.S. Elliot's The Waste Land.
D) An introduction to his main point.
hmmm, is it possible to select 2 items?
I love this thread, and I have to say, lurking the TL forums and learning about BW (and laterSC2) and niche RTS terms like APM has been pretty entertaining!
Cheers 
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Wow, if you click the links in the OP you get to this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=3682
Absolutely hilarious read for someone who didn't get into SC until 2008. Seemed so awkward to see people type act/min and actually spell out "actions per minute", I was amazed to go through all the posts and not one person actually used the term APM. I was curious when the first usage of the abbreviation APM was actually used on TL, one thread pointed to LumberJack in this thread (his 4th or 5th post in the link), on May 05, 2003, can anyone find an earlier post?
TL history is surprisingly interesting.
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On December 02 2010 10:31 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 10:21 aRRR wrote:
Whats up with all these warnings? Do you get warned around here when you make fun of a Razer product? Over many millenia, human brains have developed large frontal lobes which sets them apart from other animals.
^ This is epic sir.
I was actually surprised to find that Liquipedia Article on BWChart actually doesn't have much information on the history behind it's acceptance or how it helped APM to become a standard measure of RTS play. Maybe an expert (wink wink) could add that info, I love reading about things that went on in the days before I had an internet connection. 
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Pretty hilarious to see the slow evolution of APM. 2003 and people are hovering around 200. 7 years later and S-Clss BW players double it easily :O
Never knew JCA invented BWchart. Congrats to your contribution to e-sports :D I always felt naked without WC3chart^^
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On December 02 2010 11:56 Igakusei wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 11:53 MiniTsunami wrote:
This thread is an awesome example of how many people are too post hungry to read anything! Very entertaining though.
I remember the days of BW back before APM was something that was discussed and recorded. I even remember when BWChart was released and APM was the hugest fad ever. My APM at the time was like 125 and my friend and I used to have competitions on who could get higher APM while still playing well.
Ah the good old days, this thread really makes me reminisce :D Thanks for this, really cool thread and a reminder of the great times I used to have playing SC and BW! Speaking of the good old days, any relation to 1st~Tsunami?
1st~Tsunami was my good friend and mentor. He taught me all the fundamentals of SC/BW and along with SubKaiser, is a huge reason I was able to play that game well and topped the ladder/kbk ladders/wgtour etc for so long :D
BTW a cute note about Tsunami. He played on an old school Mac, with 1 click button, and his APM was 50. And yet he was able to compete with all the top players of that time simply due to his amazing strategic mind and originality. (Obviously this was before people could just copy other people and use their strategies better etc.)
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Wow I've never seen so many people warned in succession before lol.
I didn't know the origin of APM before this post.
Thanks for the contribution.
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First off it's highly doubtful the OP is the original JCA. Secondly it's pretty hilarious that a bunch of TL admin/mods feel so insecure that they need to red ink everyone's post. Somehow i don't see the connection between the ability to red ink and reading comprehension, overall knowledge, intelligence etc.
Yeah you might be better than average, but there are definitely many people much better than average. Yeah I know how offending this is to read if this so happens to be related to your general thought processes. And statistically speaking there are most certainly enough mods on here that at least one reading this will lay down you know what for taking the offense to his/her ego.
User was banned for this post.
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