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gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 02:15:24
December 02 2010 02:15 GMT
#61
A round for TL


cheers jca. thanks for an awesome program
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
December 02 2010 02:15 GMT
#62
On December 02 2010 11:11 whitelynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2010 11:10 ZomgTossRush wrote:
I am not sure what the OP is trying to ask. Are you asking what actions per minute is? If so, im not sure who first coined the term back in sc1 days. It's a fairly common term, like words per minute or beats per minute. It's just a form of measurement. And don't forget sc2 apm is actually misleading due to the speed settings, if i recall sc2 apm is 40% faster than the actually physical time of minute. Ex: 100 sc2 "apm" is really 140 actions per minute.


He asked absolutely nothing.

Exactly. The thread was meant to take whatever branch it wanted from the tree he planted. He even said cheers implying we bought a round and can discuss what we think of APM and how it's being implemented in technology as some people are taking to the concept of it.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
December 02 2010 02:17 GMT
#63
On December 02 2010 11:10 Keniji wrote:
I really don't know what's the best about this thread. The fact that jca reminded us of how amazing TL is, or that even the people who post stuff like "lololl all those warning rofl, epic" go on to talk about the razer gear? If this were a blog, I would definitely give 5/5.


Well I think people going on to talk about the razer gear want to bring a different point of view from the ones found in the previous comments.
o choro é livre
LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
December 02 2010 02:17 GMT
#64
I usually take greater pride about my APM distribution and EAPM more than my APM. Speaking of which, what about the invention of EAPM? How did that come about? >.>
REEBUH!!!
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
December 02 2010 02:18 GMT
#65
Why is everyone making this thread crappy? The OP (if this is really him) is one of the most important figures in BW history. Not reading the thread and/or taking shots at the products of teamliquid's first real sponsor isn't a good way to keep it clean.

Funny enough, the first practical use of APM had nothing to do with skill level. It was used to definitively prove a certain scam way back when.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
December 02 2010 02:19 GMT
#66
On December 02 2010 07:31 jca2 wrote:
Hi guys,

Just saw that ad inside SC 2 for the new Razer gears for Starcraft 2. Keyboard and mouse now have "APM Lighting". Basically, the lights on the keyboard or the mouse will change color depending on your live APM:

APM Lighting

I read that ad with a bit of "nostalgie" going back 7 years in the past, right here, on TeamLiquid.net where APM was invented:

Who invented APM?

Maybe some of you did not know about TL back then, but yes, this is the kind of impact that the TL community has on the world of eSports. It got Blizzard to add APM inside SC 2 and Razer inside its devices. Not bad.

A round for TL




It is amazing.

I'm not sure if you're being modest, but isn't it clear that you invented APM? BWChart changed the game of Starcraft, and esports in general, forever. I'm a little uncomfortable with Razer cashing in on an idea it didn't create, but it does show the ubiquity of the concept of APM, and just how powerful a community can be.

Cheers man!
Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
December 02 2010 02:20 GMT
#67
On December 02 2010 11:17 LunarC wrote:
I usually take greater pride about my APM distribution and EAPM more than my APM. Speaking of which, what about the invention of EAPM? How did that come about? >.>


I don't remember when specifically or what program was the first, but I think there were a few other programs like bwrepinfo that calculated EAPM in addition to APM. It was the result of community reaction to APM and a general consensus that spammers with 300 APM that can't win pubs on b.net didn't deserve to have the same rating as progamers.
Catyoul *
Profile Joined April 2004
France2377 Posts
December 02 2010 02:20 GMT
#68
Hehe hello JCA ! If I had been asked, I would have answered you did. Ah nostalgia

Also, this thread is absolutely hilarious. Much <3 to mods for coloring it up !
W.O.L.F.Y.
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany98 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 02:49:39
December 02 2010 02:22 GMT
#69
Is this a temp-banned trap/warn trap? Seems like it is...anyway i dont like how your question is wrapped up in information about a controversial product (which its most likely to get discussed)..You trapped so many people with it by just jumping from one technological and game gear topic to "who invendet apm?". You even gave an answer or at least a hint for your question by stating that TL might have "invented" apm..

What i have to say: Asking "Who invented APM" is similiar to asking "who invented mph", or "who invented gravity"...you , dear thread starter would obviously say "oohhh i know that, that was Newton!!". But i say, no one did, it was there the whole time, Newton just gave it a name. Its the same with APM, except that there is no official "namegiver" to apm afaik.

If youre the namegiver of apm, feel free to feel like newton...



User was temp banned for this post.
When you fall, fall forward. At least you'll see what you're falling on.
PineappleSage
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 02:46:41
December 02 2010 02:22 GMT
#70


User was temp banned for this post.
zerglings ^^
Slims20
Profile Joined June 2010
United States45 Posts
December 02 2010 02:24 GMT
#71
Why is there so many warnings? Bug or something?

I have no opinion about APM lighting gear, as I do not want to get banned or warned.

User was temp banned for this post.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 02:25:12
December 02 2010 02:24 GMT
#72
On December 02 2010 11:22 brendan.zerg116109 wrote:
wow so much red i guess its a power hungery admin. I dont know who created apm but my guess is a TL member used a abreviation and it stuck.



Well in the linked thread you can read the name of the inventor
o choro é livre
LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 02:26:01
December 02 2010 02:25 GMT
#73
On December 02 2010 11:22 brendan.zerg116109 wrote:
wow so much red i guess its a power hungery admin. I dont know who created apm but my guess is a TL member used a abreviation and it stuck.

Read the damn OP. He's the one that invented APM by creating a program called bwchart. And there are no power-hungry admins, just people that don't know how to read or lack fully developed frontal lobes.

On December 02 2010 11:24 Slims20 wrote:
Why is there so many warnings? Bug or something?

I have no opinion about APM lighting gear, as I do not want to get banned or warned.

This thread isn't about the gear.
REEBUH!!!
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
December 02 2010 02:25 GMT
#74
On December 02 2010 11:24 Slims20 wrote:
Why is there so many warnings? Bug or something?

I have no opinion about APM lighting gear, as I do not want to get banned or warned.


There are so many warnings because everybody is talking about razer when the OP is simply commending teamliquid for inventing APM.
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
5ahj4g
Profile Joined August 2010
72 Posts
December 02 2010 02:26 GMT
#75
this thread is hilarious

seems like most people didnt actually read the first post

myself included, up until a few minutes ago

lol.
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
December 02 2010 02:31 GMT
#76
Lol you should ask for royalties, you never know it could work! :D
the courage to be a lazy bum
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 02:35:55
December 02 2010 02:35 GMT
#77
On December 02 2010 11:22 W.O.L.F.Y. wrote:
...
What i have to say: Asking "Who invented APM" is similiar to asking "who invented mph", or "who invented gravity"...you , dear thread starter would obviously say "oohhh i know that, that was Newton!!". But i say, no one did, it was there the whole time, Newton just gave it a name. Its the same with APM, except that there is no official "namegiver" to apm afaik.
...

Pretty sure the guy who created bwchart, the first ever program to measure and record actions per minute and call it APM, invented APM. That guy is this thread creator.

If you (and others) read the OP more carefully there wouldn't be so many warnings and bans.
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slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
December 02 2010 02:38 GMT
#78
Cheers to JCA, Cheers to TL, Cheers to BW, Cheers to Razer, and most importantly: Cheers to the Mods. Too funny.
XD
I get it.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 02 2010 02:38 GMT
#79
It's like a reading comprehension question.

The OP's description on the Razer mouse is:

A) The main topic of the thread.
B) A humorous anecdote.
C) An allusion to T.S. Elliot's The Waste Land.
D) An introduction to his main point.
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
December 02 2010 02:41 GMT
#80
On December 02 2010 11:22 W.O.L.F.Y. wrote:
Is this a temp-banned trap/warn trap? Seems like it is...anyway i dont like how your question is wrapped up in information about a controversial product (which its most likely to get discussed)..You trapped so many people with it by just jumping from one technological and game gear topic to "who invendet apm?". You even gave an answer or at least a hint for your question by stating that TL might have "invented" apm..

What i have to say: Asking "Who invented APM" is similiar to asking "who invented mph", or "who invented gravity"...you , dear thread starter would obviously say "oohhh i know that, that was Newton!!". But i say, no one did, it was there the whole time, Newton just gave it a name. Its the same with APM, except that there is no official "namegiver" to apm afaik.

I think for your rather dim-witted question YOU should get banned...Man you cant start Threads like that, trap that many people (ok they were stupid enough to talk offtopic) and stay unbanned. I mean even if that "you trapped so many people you should get banned for that" argument is invalid, you should get banned/temp banned for your thread..


What are you talking about? There's no question "wrapped up" in the OP at all.
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