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freeto
Profile Joined December 2010
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 09:09:30
December 31 2010 09:09 GMT
#301
wow that's really cool, i never knew the idea behind apm originated on TL. makes you wonder about the other sc related things we all just think of as normal, like casting. what was the first game to ever be commentated?

EDIT: typo
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27172 Posts
December 31 2010 09:14 GMT
#302
On December 31 2010 18:09 freeto wrote:
wow that's really cool, i never knew the idea behind apm originated on TL. makes you wonder about the other sc related things we all just think of as normal, like casting. what was the first game to ever be commentated?

EDIT: typo


Another tool jca made was replays with audio. It wasn't the first commentating, as some people did it with audio files synced with replays, but his program fused an ogg audio file and the replay together. It was really cool. Tiamat was one of the first rwa makers.
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QQplay
Profile Joined February 2009
United States229 Posts
December 31 2010 09:22 GMT
#303
On December 02 2010 07:36 eLiE wrote:
lol, i like the little evolution on that one page. actions/minute, actions per minute, apm's to....APM!

Kind of cool little history fact if it's indeed where APM was born.

EDIT: Reading other posts, JCA, a TL member, was the inventor. Thank you, sir, I raise my glass with the others You made me self-conscious about how fast I spam stuff .

Man, this place is a minefield.....


Yeah that was pretty interesting, seeing it go through all the names until it finally turned to APM.

JCA- the person that launched a thousand bans. and BWchart.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 09:34:19
December 31 2010 09:32 GMT
#304
HAhaHAH the warnings on the first page is hilarious!! :D

U sure that's the first occurance of APM? seems fairly common since bwchar's out they do already record actions/minute


so there's mph, rpm, ect ect, apm is bound to happen isn't it? It might be possible it originated independently across the web.

We need a crawler to find the oldest mention of APM in the entire internet! OO


edit: but Ah you did bwchart, so then I think you DO have the best handle on the subject. Okay, I think you're right.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
December 31 2010 09:34 GMT
#305
On December 31 2010 18:14 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 18:09 freeto wrote:
wow that's really cool, i never knew the idea behind apm originated on TL. makes you wonder about the other sc related things we all just think of as normal, like casting. what was the first game to ever be commentated?

EDIT: typo


Another tool jca made was replays with audio. It wasn't the first commentating, as some people did it with audio files synced with replays, but his program fused an ogg audio file and the replay together. It was really cool. Tiamat was one of the first rwa makers.


I watched the games you commentated!! I forgot which games they were though...
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 31 2010 09:47 GMT
#306
I wonder whether jca may claim some money from RAZER for using his invention -
probably not :D

I'm a law student and that was the first thing coming into my mind reading this ancient posts. :D
GIMJ
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada46 Posts
December 31 2010 13:53 GMT
#307
I never realized that apm came from team liquid. This is very cool.

btw the first two pages of this thread are awesome, it is like a wall of red.
roadrunner343
Profile Joined November 2010
148 Posts
December 31 2010 14:24 GMT
#308
People baffle me. First, I've never been big into BW. I've also never heard of JCA, since I wasn't big into BW at the time, only laddering occasionally for fun... and losing was never that fun, I sucked.

Still, I read the well written post in about 30 seconds and saw the mod's edit before I saw the first three pages of bans... it wasn't very difficult. Another 30 seconds after that, I googled "Starcraft JCA" and found a whole bunch of tools and crap he worked on. It wasn't very difficult to see that this wasn't a razer ad, or a question, it was a statement about TL's and JCA's impact on the starcraft community... yet 15 pages later, people still don't get it.

JCA, even though I wasn't huge into BW and I never used any of your tools, a 30 seconds search revealed to me you've done so much for the community as a whole, and have helped shape the starcraft 2 community today that I so much enjoy. Thanks to you and the rest of the TL community, and hopefully we at TL can continue to shape the future of starcraft. Cheers.
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