• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:30
CEST 09:30
KST 16:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash8[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy14ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research7Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Behind the scenes footage of ASL21 Group E BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Build Order Practice Maps
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM [ASL21] Ro24 Group E [ASL21] Ro24 Group D
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10367 users

Who 'invented' APM - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 14 15 16 Next All
AndrewZorn
Profile Joined November 2010
United States56 Posts
December 02 2010 00:13 GMT
#21
On December 02 2010 07:58 JustPlay wrote:
Their priorities are horrible. How about producing an affordable gaming keyboard with good switches (mx reds ideal, mx browns if not) with NKRO and the option of no numpad? Sorry too busy jamming lights, usb hubs, headphone ports, giant wristrests that nobody wants, useless macro keys that make an even bigger footprint on the desk, and now apm based lighting on to a rubber dome or some mx blues with 2kro and then spending extra development time and money on "gaming optimized" 2kro.

Sounds like you know everything you need to in order to just go buy a Filco Tenkeyless... why not just do that and laugh at the gaymers?

I really like my Happy Hacking Pro 2, but the lack of F1-F4 is really really getting to me. Control is so right though that it is all worth it.

User was warned for this post
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
December 02 2010 00:27 GMT
#22
On December 02 2010 08:15 Danze wrote:
Such a lol concept. "Holy shit guyz my keyboard is liek goin all red n stuffz mai Apm is liek hooooooge omgomgomg"

Asshole. You made me spit up SunnyD all over myself.


Also, I only see the lighting helpful in my kind of gaming scenario because I play with my lights off.... otherwise I wouldn't even see the red lights and shit because I'm too focused on the screen. :|

User was warned for this post
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
AgresticRage
Profile Joined August 2010
United States11 Posts
December 02 2010 00:36 GMT
#23
next your computer will explode if you go below 55 apm

User was warned for this post
I feel muscular and compact like cornbeef!!!
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
December 02 2010 00:46 GMT
#24
Just rewire the red LED into a model rocket igniter and then stick the igniter into a bottle rocket. Place the bottle rocket on your lap and then start laddering your heart out...

User was warned for this post
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
December 02 2010 00:47 GMT
#25
On December 02 2010 09:46 Dental Floss wrote:
Just rewire the red LED into a model rocket igniter and then stick the igniter into a bottle rocket. Place the bottle rocket on your lap and then start laddering your heart out...

Best idea ever.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 00:54:00
December 02 2010 00:49 GMT
#26
On December 02 2010 07:35 Xapti wrote:
I doubt Blizzard had much to do with razer's product. Blizzard maybe just gave a bit of info (if any), and gave permission for razer to make SC themed products.

There's bee post about this APM lighting before, so I'm not sure if this new topic is justified.

Reading is fundamental. >.>

Cool find.

EDIT: New rules to the game. If you don't understand what not to do after reading the first 5 posts (or you didn't read them), I'm upping the ante.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
December 02 2010 01:15 GMT
#27
thanks for the warning it actually made this thread much more interesting. Damn my constant browsing at work >_<


I actually ended up reading the threads linked in the OP and had a fun APM history lesson. Boxer replays being analyzed for the first time with 131 APM must have been awesome at the time. It's funny how far players have come. Also funny how a quick warning from an Admin can lead to such sweet reads.

cheers!
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
aRRR
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands21 Posts
December 02 2010 01:21 GMT
#28
Whats up with all these warnings? Do you get warned around here when you make fun of a Razer product?

User was temp banned for this post.
jdsarge
Profile Joined October 2010
United States308 Posts
December 02 2010 01:23 GMT
#29
I hope I get warned for this post.

User was temp banned for this post.
Hikko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1126 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 01:26:35
December 02 2010 01:23 GMT
#30
On December 02 2010 07:31 jca2 wrote:
Hi guys,

Just saw that ad inside SC 2 for the new Razer gears for Starcraft 2. Keyboard and mouse now have "APM Lighting". Basically, the lights on the keyboard or the mouse will change color depending on your live APM:

APM Lighting

I read that ad with a bit of "nostalgie" going back 7 years in the past, right here, on TeamLiquid.net where APM was invented:

Who invented APM?

Maybe some of you did not know about TL back then, but yes, this is the kind of impact that the TL community has on the world of eSports. It got Blizzard to add APM inside SC 2 and Razer inside its devices. Not bad.

A round for TL




Thank you for your contributions to the entire Starcraft community, JCA! BWchart helped me improve my gameplay in Brood War a lot by allowing me to see what parts of the game I wasn't focusing/playing well in. The fact that the concept of APM has been embraced by the Korean scene, Blizzard, and people making products about them testifies to just how brilliant the concept was in assessing player activity.

In fact, it was your website that led me to TeamLiquid.net because I looked up APM after hearing it talked about in Youtube videos on VioleTAK. Thank you so so so much!



On December 02 2010 09:49 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2010 07:35 Xapti wrote:
I doubt Blizzard had much to do with razer's product. Blizzard maybe just gave a bit of info (if any), and gave permission for razer to make SC themed products.

There's bee post about this APM lighting before, so I'm not sure if this new topic is justified.

Reading is fundamental. >.>

Cool find.

EDIT: New rules to the game. If you don't understand what not to do after reading the first 5 posts (or you didn't read them), I'm upping the ante.


Jibba, you made this thread a whole lot more entertaining with all of the red text
♥
OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
December 02 2010 01:25 GMT
#31
lol so many warned!
But to get serious the idea is good for this that you get warned when your under attack and when your APM is going low but too bad the mouse looks kind of robotisch and not very ergonomic.

User was temp banned for this post.
i dunno lol
terramagra
Profile Joined September 2010
United States52 Posts
December 02 2010 01:29 GMT
#32
I guess I'm alone in thinking its neat. But 99% of the time, I have to keep my volume low so I don't bother the g/f watching tv... so when it blinks red when being attacked, I might pick it up a little faster.. guess I'm the minority. Plus my laptop kb and mouse need to be replace..*shrug*

User was temp banned for this post.
Knee_of_Justice
Profile Joined October 2009
United States388 Posts
December 02 2010 01:29 GMT
#33
There are a hilarious amount of warnings in this thread.

I dont think APM is important enough to warrant a specific gauge for it, besides the counter in the replay. Its not like its that important to know on the spot (oh no! my APM is too low! better spam a bit more...).

Seems like it is just a fancy but unnecessary feature that sets this mouse apart from others.

Might be funny for commentators though: "oh snap, his mouse just switched from orange to red! shit just got real"

User was temp banned for this post.
Protoss Tactical Guide: http://www.sc2armory.com/forums/topic/7903
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 01:31:04
December 02 2010 01:29 GMT
#34
On December 02 2010 10:25 OPSavioR wrote:
lol so many warned!
But to get serious the idea is good for this that you get warned when your under attack and when your APM is going low but too bad the mouse looks kind of robotisch and not very ergonomic.


you're making the same mistake as all those warned before you, learn from us!


this thread is getting more hiliarious as all the new posters are still making the mistake us earlier warned made. The thread discussion isn't about the Razer mouse feature!!
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 01:37:10
December 02 2010 01:31 GMT
#35
On December 02 2010 10:21 aRRR wrote:
Whats up with all these warnings? Do you get warned around here when you make fun of a Razer product?

Over many millenia, human brains have developed large frontal lobes which sets them apart from other animals.

The executive functions of the frontal lobes involve the ability to recognize future consequences resulting from current actions, to choose between good and bad actions (or better and best), override and suppress unacceptable social responses, and determine similarities and differences between things or events. Therefore, it is involved in higher mental functions.

Source: Wikipedia.


Posting in threads before actually reading them constitutes an unacceptable social response, and failing to suppress this urge will get you punished. Our users all possess this ability (besides the Walrus and Sheep) and are expected to utilize it.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
ltortoise
Profile Joined August 2010
633 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 01:34:27
December 02 2010 01:32 GMT
#36
No offense but I bet the OP works for Razer! Definitely shows that the Razer guerrilla advertising crew does it's research well though, and knows how to suck up to the community!

It is pretty cool that APM was invented here.

Edit:
WHOA, take it back. Looks like jca is a long time contributor and wrote some utility software to help people with bw.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
December 02 2010 01:32 GMT
#37
so much hate...razer is a great company and make quality products, my 5 year old copperhead speaks for itself...

User was temp banned for this post.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 02 2010 01:36 GMT
#38
On December 02 2010 10:32 ltortoise wrote:
No offense but I bet the OP works for Razer! Definitely shows that the Razer guerrilla advertising crew does it's research well though, and knows how to suck up to the community!

It is pretty cool that APM was invented here.

Edit:
WHOA, take it back. Looks like jca is a long time contributor and wrote some utility software to help people with bw.

Nice save.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
December 02 2010 01:38 GMT
#39
APM lighting is honestly a gimmick, pretty much in line with any licensed product for anything. If APM alerting is what you need, get SC2Gears with APMAlert that tells you whenever your APM drops, and you can set its threshold for doing so as well.

User was temp banned for this post.
GuMiho <3
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 01:39:30
December 02 2010 01:39 GMT
#40
Now the real question is why did jca forget his password to his original account?

PS: hi jca good to see you =]
Moderator
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 14 15 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 30m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 330
PianO 232
Noble 33
Shinee 15
soO 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
Dota 2
XcaliburYe138
NeuroSwarm34
League of Legends
JimRising 577
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K940
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0425
Other Games
summit1g7802
WinterStarcraft427
ceh9383
Happy237
ProTech115
Nina55
Liquid`Ken19
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick834
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 72
lovetv 11
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH335
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt685
• HappyZerGling121
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
2h 30m
OSC
16h 30m
RSL Revival
1d 2h
TriGGeR vs Cure
ByuN vs Rogue
Replay Cast
1d 16h
RSL Revival
2 days
Maru vs MaxPax
BSL
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-31
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W1
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.