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YAR!!!
I am very proud to say that I am in full support of any digital piracy of any medium, whether it is music, movies, etc. I don't even have a terribly fast internet connection (a very draconian 300kb connection), but, I will pirate at almost every opportunity, having plenty of exceptions.
The reason I do it isn't because I want to be a cheap bastard, deny the hardwork of artists, developers, etc. but rather, I believe that its a insane that full retail price is usually charged for purely digital products. For instance, why does do the hard copy and digital copy of SC2 have the same price? Boxes, discs, warehouses, shipping, encoding of those dvds, etc etc etc all have a cost associated to it, so why should I give Blizzard the convenience and bigger profit margin for buying a digital copy?
I really only ever buy a product in a few circumstances:
1. I want to give my financial support to those who created the product in hopes they will produce more products of similar quality. Best example of this is my purchase of both Mass Effect 2/Sonic: The Hedgehog Rpg; I want Bioware to stick around, and keep producing quality games, I enjoy them.
2. When there is added value to purchasing the product. ex. This is primarily why I pirate very few movies. Watching a movie in a movie theater is an experience, that unfortunately never be reproduced no matter how rich I am.
3. Whenever there is a good sale on steam, I will try and pick up a game, if my wallet allows it. This is a combination of all my reasons for why I pirate/don't pirate. These games are being offered to me at a discounted price from the hard copy retail version, they have the added value of always being attached to my steam account (therefore I will never lose them/can dl them to other computers), and it helps me support the whole notion of digital versions should be cheaper than hard copy versions.
So call me a thief, scum of the earth, pirate, etc. torrenting, cloud, steam, all of this is the wave of the future, and really should begin to be reflected in the amount of money we have to pay for information through these mediums. Kept a their ridiculously inflated amounts, you not only screw over your customers, but you condone those big companies screwing over the very people that created the intellectual property.
(for the record, I did man up and buy Starcraft 2; the "added value" was being able to play with people like you)
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so you admit to being a thief nice ... not
how are they screwing us over ? they made something we want, we pay for it, simple business. and might i add without a monthly subscription
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On November 16 2010 16:31 greeryan wrote:
No one has "the right " to take something that does not belong to them. Get a life and get a conscience!
Says the guy living in the biggest country to date to be built on greed, exploitation and thievery...
Your nation murdered millions of civilians to steal oil so lazy rednecks could save 25 cents at the pump and you're here trying to lecture us about "piracy is evil" ? LOL.
Morality is quite similar to what comes out of people's asses...
User was warned for this post
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On November 16 2010 16:04 Benshin88 wrote:
Blizzard has made it so it's impossible to play online without a BNET account. I'm not trying to single you out, because several people said similar things, but you're the most recent poster.
While it is currently not possible to play SC2 multiplayer without a bnet account, it is not entirely impossible, just HARDER than SC1. Back when SC1 was released, virtual networking was very rare and not used by many people. That meant the only way you could play multiplayer would be offline via LAN, which wasn't too common. (of course both these things changed with time)
What bothers me the most though, is my previous paragraph is ignoring the fact that you could have up to 8 OTHER COPIES OF STARCRAFT ON BATTLE NET FOR FRIENDS TO PLAY SIMULTANEOUSLY FOR FREE (LEGALLY) which were called spawn copies. It wasn't completely unrestricted play, as I think you could only play games with the spawn parent/host.
Anyway, like I was saying in paragraph 2, there will be a LAN/P2P crack for SC2 because SC2 is just using routed P2P technology for game hosting/playing. No server-side stuff going on at all (except the matchmaking system, which could be emulated anyway). If there was server-side tech, then not only would pirated multiplayer be close to impossible, but map hacking and disconnect hacking would be impossible. Seems like Blizzard is really skimpy with their resources though... I can only assume they have their reasons.
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I downloaded SC2 when it first came out. Never played an RTS before but I heard good stuff about this game, and after a week of playing the campaign I went out and bought it. Very glad I did of course.
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On November 16 2010 16:37 Shinkugami wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 16:31 greeryan wrote:
No one has "the right " to take something that does not belong to them. Get a life and get a conscience!
Says the guy living in the biggest country to date to be built on greed, exploitation and thievery... Your nation murdered millions of civilians to steal oil so lazy rednecks could save 25 cents at the pump and you're here trying to lecture us about "piracy is evil" ? LOL. Morality is quite similar to what comes out of people's asses...
says a guy that works 60+ hours a week with a 2 hour commute and works for what he has... the way america was built
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Being a corporate slave is nothing to be proud about...
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being honest is to be proud of... not stealing
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Do you two need a time out?
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im fine 
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There will always be pirates. I don't agree with piracy, but it's not disappearing any time soon.
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On November 16 2010 16:44 greeryan wrote:
being honest is to be proud of... not stealing
Honesty is relative 
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On November 16 2010 16:37 Shinkugami wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 16:31 greeryan wrote:
No one has "the right " to take something that does not belong to them. Get a life and get a conscience!
Says the guy living in the biggest country to date to be built on greed, exploitation and thievery... Your nation murdered millions of civilians to steal oil so lazy rednecks could save 25 cents at the pump and you're here trying to lecture us about "piracy is evil" ? LOL. Morality is quite similar to what comes out of people's asses...
What's wrong with murdering millions of civilians and stealing oil if morality is shit? Your ambivalence between anti-Americanism and nihilism is shit.
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I'm really glad that people are pirating it - once the play the mediocre campaign, they may realize how epic of a game it is and go buy it :D
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While people are dying left and right in this world, downloading games is so low on my list of wrong things not to do..
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I belive the No lan on release was not only to prevent piracy, it also preven kespa from doing whatever they want like they did with sc1, while im sure blizzard would take em to court im also sure that the case it be debated for years. Seem wierd but in the long run no Lan might be the best thing for esports because it keep kespa out of it.
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YAR!!!
I am very proud to say that I am in full support of any digital piracy of any medium, whether it is music, movies, etc. I don't even have a terribly fast internet connection (a very draconian 300kb connection), but, I will pirate at almost every opportunity, having plenty of exceptions.
The reason I do it isn't because I want to be a cheap bastard, deny the hardwork of artists, developers, etc. but rather, I believe that its a insane that full retail price is usually charged for purely digital products.
What do you do for a living?
How did your parents make their living?
Why should anyone make digital products if your view is the correct view?
Are you aware that the digital work is much more expensive than the physical product? You're talking about a 10 cent plastic DVD and a cardboard box that is even cheaper.
You can word it however you wish, but there are obvious logic holes in your stance which leads to me believe that you're using a bit of doublespeak to convince yourself you can download whatever you want. Sure must be nice to play that fancy new $60 game every few weeks while I watch titles like Black Ops, Bad Company, Dragon Age expansions, and dozens others slide by me while responsibly keeping my curious wallet closed-- can't imagine how much coaxing it took to convince you to enjoy that in my stead.
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maybe they just bought a key online from another source, and figured they might aswell download it somewhere else seeing as they cant play it without an acc anyway  so guessing its somthing to do with download speed from blizz site and if that is the case i really dont see the problem :D
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Yes, this kind of stuff happens. Battlenet isnt the almighty lord of security. It was bound to happen.
I would be a hypocrit to say that I hate all those who pirated sc2. As I download music a lot myself. I bought sc2 on the release though. One of the few games I ever bought after ~2008 I think. Couldn't be bothered to wait until some keygen was found.
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This means nothing.
Bittorrent is a good source to download something from.
It doesn't say "Cracked" version, it just says illegal. Downloading the game client, even if you can't play it, is "illegal". The percentage of people who actually downloaded it and knew how to crack it is extremely small, and keep in mind this is only for the campaign.
The article is extremely misleading. The author should feel ashamed for spreading such misleading information.
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