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.ImpacT.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States390 Posts
October 12 2010 15:39 GMT
#121
Would be pretty amazing...but how often is your opponent not going to go "oh look...50 marines running to my ramp...".

Other than that, seems pretty good - if a bit gimmicky. >_>
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
October 12 2010 17:31 GMT
#122
I also think Dimaga purely because he's the only one on that list that would use such an obscure trick, the other players while possibly better overall than Dimaga would never have the guts to try something like that I don't think.
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Knap4life
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Slovenia333 Posts
October 12 2010 17:38 GMT
#123
Put the changelings on patrol on the ramp.
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
October 12 2010 17:49 GMT
#124
On October 13 2010 02:38 Knap4life wrote:
Put the changelings on patrol on the ramp.


Units can pass through if you put them on patrol, hold command is harder to spot and blocks.
Thief @ #teamliquid @ Quakenet
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
October 12 2010 18:29 GMT
#125
actually this is interseting, i wonder if it would be worth it to use changelings to help attacks like run them into the enemy lines and mess up their formation and not allow as many of them to attack at once.
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
October 12 2010 18:36 GMT
#126
When I first saw this post I thought "yeah right :\" but after seeing the videos I was actually impressed with how effective it was (even though the opponents seemed pretty bad).

The only problem is (especially in a pro game) when will you be able to dump that many resources into a ton of overseers while all they need is one detector to make the entire strategy useless?

I kinda doubt we will ever see this in high level play. But I do like it.

I think this could have been quite viable back when overseers pooped out infested terrans.
I get it.
Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
October 12 2010 18:43 GMT
#127
INFESTED TERRAAAAAAAAAN
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
hero33
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada122 Posts
October 12 2010 18:48 GMT
#128
this is .... well... to put it short your 1450..... and probly in a crap division. of diamond
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 18:53:11
October 12 2010 18:52 GMT
#129
I've won a game doing this with a single changeling. Toss had walled in his nat with only a single space for units to go through. After 66% of his army left, I moved hte changeling in front of it and put it on hold position. The rest of the army got stuck and never went through, he didn't notice. I barley won the fight... would have lost if the other third went through... so lucky... he was like "CAN'T BELIEVE I DIDN'T NOTICE THIS!!!"

PS. This was in the beta.
Thoreezhea1
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States532 Posts
October 12 2010 19:00 GMT
#130
*switched to zerg*

awesome man. you may be the next FaZe!
What the Fu- REAPERS?!
Polatrite
Profile Joined August 2010
United States135 Posts
October 12 2010 19:04 GMT
#131
I like how everyone in this thread had the exact same idea "just today" or "in a game this morning".

Yeah, sure.
I'm not going to cut my hair any time soon. I'm gonna let it grow out - I'm gonna become a shag monster. Shaggy monster, I guess, is what I should have said. I will ALSO be a shag monster. day[9] the shag monster, who plays both games and girls *snap*
Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
October 12 2010 19:07 GMT
#132
On October 13 2010 03:48 hero33 wrote:
this is .... well... to put it short your 1450..... and probly in a crap division. of diamond

this is dumb.

your points have nothing to do with your division. Only your rank in the division.
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
Lefnui
Profile Joined November 2008
United States753 Posts
October 12 2010 19:07 GMT
#133
This is an old idea that has already been used many times. I've seen many top players use it in replays and I've used it myself. It's much more logical when in standard numbers though. 4-5 to block a ramp instead of trying to get a ton. It's just not worth the amount of micro/overseers needed when opponent can just queue attacks on them all.
danson
Profile Joined April 2010
United States689 Posts
October 12 2010 19:09 GMT
#134
On October 12 2010 07:02 absalom86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 06:59 Wreacknell wrote:
This seems like a really advanced strategy.

Maybe your opponent will go ahead and just effing kill you.

Just maybe.


How would he kill you ? When you've blocked his army in his base and killed all his expansions you've got a big advantage ^^.



he kills you because his army is 500 min and 1000gas bigger, because you made 10 overseers.

absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
October 12 2010 19:10 GMT
#135
On October 13 2010 03:36 slam wrote:
When I first saw this post I thought "yeah right :\" but after seeing the videos I was actually impressed with how effective it was (even though the opponents seemed pretty bad).

The only problem is (especially in a pro game) when will you be able to dump that many resources into a ton of overseers while all they need is one detector to make the entire strategy useless?

I kinda doubt we will ever see this in high level play. But I do like it.

I think this could have been quite viable back when overseers pooped out infested terrans.


I don't know why people think detection does anything at all to changelings. You need to manually click every single one to get rid of them, with or without detection, as it does nothing to affect them.
Thief @ #teamliquid @ Quakenet
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
October 12 2010 19:12 GMT
#136
On October 13 2010 04:09 danson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 07:02 absalom86 wrote:
On October 12 2010 06:59 Wreacknell wrote:
This seems like a really advanced strategy.

Maybe your opponent will go ahead and just effing kill you.

Just maybe.


How would he kill you ? When you've blocked his army in his base and killed all his expansions you've got a big advantage ^^.



he kills you because his army is 500 min and 1000gas bigger, because you made 10 overseers.



Who made 10 overseers ? If you ever made over 2-4 overseers it definately means you are food capped already, in which case blocking half or his whole army outside his base while you ravage it is nothing but positive.
Thief @ #teamliquid @ Quakenet
yakitate304
Profile Joined April 2009
United States655 Posts
October 12 2010 19:19 GMT
#137
On October 12 2010 06:59 Wreacknell wrote:
This seems like a really advanced strategy.

Maybe your opponent will go ahead and just effing kill you.

Just maybe.


This is somewhat related...

A few weeks ago I played a game where I Roach Nydused against Terran, and had burrowed 2 Infestors to spit some Infested Terrans to block his ramp (similar to the Changelings).

At my base, since I feared a counter, I had 3 Overseers ready at my ramp to do the Changeling block defensively, at least to buy time to fall back with my Roaches via Nydus. The counter never came but I think it would have been a good move.
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Polatrite
Profile Joined August 2010
United States135 Posts
October 12 2010 19:21 GMT
#138
The idiots in this thread severely underestimate the importance of positioning in battles. A considerably less obvious use of this strategy is to take a SINGLE overseer and a SINGLE changeling and place it ON the ramp in hold positioning, effectively blocking off only half of the ramp. Time this *exactly* as you move in for an attack on the expansion. Even if you force the army to trickle past you for a mere second (assuming a player literally sees the changeling, responds, and attacks it), it could result in several free unit kills if you have setup even a half concave outside of his ramp. Positioning is what wins and loses tournaments as we've seen over and over, and even slight hiccups in positioning can greatly affect the outcome of a battle.
I'm not going to cut my hair any time soon. I'm gonna let it grow out - I'm gonna become a shag monster. Shaggy monster, I guess, is what I should have said. I will ALSO be a shag monster. day[9] the shag monster, who plays both games and girls *snap*
Fizbin
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada202 Posts
October 12 2010 19:28 GMT
#139
when i get home tonight im going to try this out with roach nydus to enemy main with changlings at ramp lol...... would be pretty funny! especiallys if u run a bunch of overlords and stack them over the changlings so he cant click em easy!
just the tip
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
October 12 2010 19:28 GMT
#140
Not happening. Ever.
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