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aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
October 12 2010 10:27 GMT
#81
not viable
FlashDave.999 aka Star
nebffa
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Australia776 Posts
October 12 2010 10:27 GMT
#82
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=142668#5

Just found this from another thread - this is from August 10!
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 12 2010 10:35 GMT
#83
Pretty creative/interesting idea. Don't know how viable/how often it would come up in a high-level game though.
cerebralz
Profile Joined August 2009
United States443 Posts
October 12 2010 10:36 GMT
#84
Soooo funny... one of the greatest "tricks" ever!
tacrats
Profile Joined July 2010
476 Posts
October 12 2010 10:42 GMT
#85
On October 12 2010 12:36 DreXxiN wrote:
I think there's a lot of hindsight bias in this thread. People read the theory and are focused on the theory, so go "Oh I'd notice that if it happened. NOT VIABLE."

I think in a real ladder scenario, it has it's niche moments, and when it's possible it could be pretty effective.


its not viable 99% of the time though.

dont you think someone is going to think something is up when 5 overseers are flying around his base? Or when 5 units are running at his choke on the minimap (plus the cnangelings would die much faster this way) ? Even assuming he didnt, and your changeling wall kept him in his base for an extra 20 seconds, you just spent a huge amount of gas on overseers, so your going to have a crappy army, so after that 20 seconds of loltime, if he rolls out you are dead. if you kill his nat with this he will attack right away and you die.

a 1 changeling block is worthwhile sometimes, but mass overseers is just something to do against bad players.

dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
October 12 2010 10:48 GMT
#86
was funny to watch nontheless
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 10:50:21
October 12 2010 10:49 GMT
#87
This was already used in a pro Korean game. In ZvP the Protoss had walled off with a little gap for a Zealot. Late in the game when both players had an expo (Metalopolis) the Zerg player used a changeling to block the gap while he Nydus'd into the main and wreaked havoc.

It was awesome.

It was similar to the vid shown before.
lalala
Fadetowhite
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)302 Posts
October 12 2010 11:11 GMT
#88
doom drop while doing this to the guys main ramp seems to be a extremly good strat considering his army is prob at his third / natural.

this will also buy extra time to snipe the tech building that hard counters your unit mix.

and ye voted dimaga cause he is always up for trying crazy shit, but hoping for IdrA in the gsl or something and shock everyone like he did with the whole magic box trick.
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Phlatline
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Croatia176 Posts
October 12 2010 11:20 GMT
#89
I think I saw Artosis use this in some of his games way back in beta, not mass changelings tho, just a couple of them and it worked fine because toss player didn't notice it so his units got stuck on the LT ramp
Not sure about how good this would be vs someone good :D
Suikakuju
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany238 Posts
October 12 2010 11:21 GMT
#90
I lol´ed so hard.
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GoDannY
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany442 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 11:28:43
October 12 2010 11:26 GMT
#91
Some dude did it to me in a PvZ on a tournament (not sure if it was Zotac). Though it was only 8 of those changelings, you have to attack them manually to kill them. By that, 4 of my chargelots got stuck and were sniped by hydras - for a basicly free unit from an overseer not bad at all right?

Never ever seen it again though, would love to see that as a major game element since Overseer spells are hardcore underused imo!

EDIT: to clarify: this was in a bigger battle where he used his anyway free-changelots to distract my actual force
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nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
October 12 2010 11:29 GMT
#92
One day in a TVZ some Z will have alot of gas and make 5 overseers. It is only a matter of TIME.
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Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
October 12 2010 11:29 GMT
#93
Dude, that is awesome. Such a hilarious way to win.
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FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
October 12 2010 11:33 GMT
#94
Sounds fun, ill give it a shot =)

Might be good if you can catch your opponent off-guard!
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GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
October 12 2010 11:39 GMT
#95
ye its nice i actually used in in ladder long time ago just to try and it worked and it doesnt even have to be so much units and all...

i was playing vs a protoss and got like 8 of my changelots on his army when he was going to attack i put them all in front and made a wall blocking all his zealots and units xP
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
rjT.
Profile Joined May 2008
Italy295 Posts
October 12 2010 11:48 GMT
#96
senseless strategy
your opponent would just kill them
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
October 12 2010 11:51 GMT
#97
Its nothing new, i use to do this in the beta.
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GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
October 12 2010 11:51 GMT
#98
On October 12 2010 20:48 rjT. wrote:
senseless strategy
your opponent would just kill them


its all about winning time.. it will take time for the opponent to kill them specially if u get him by surprise and in that time you can make lot of damage
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
hadoken5
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada519 Posts
October 12 2010 11:52 GMT
#99
I think the enemy will have expanded and will notice any changelings coming in, plus they usually rally the army outside.
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
October 12 2010 12:17 GMT
#100
On October 12 2010 20:52 hadoken5 wrote:
I think the enemy will have expanded and will notice any changelings coming in, plus they usually rally the army outside.


Block the ramp and nydus / drop inside his main then. Same concept.
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