The "Changefield" is old , but would be nice to see it in a real game. Also, again with the freaking benny hill theme, why, whats the point ?! Its not funny, its just awful, i hate it please dont use it ever again.

Soulous

United States133 Posts

October 12 2010 03:29 GMT

#62

On October 12 2010 12:11 Zvendetta wrote:
Cast contaminate on an OC-
it CANNOT lift off.

Note- contaminate also prevents raxs/depots from lifting off/ lowering, so for implementing muta harass do that instead. Unlike changleings, detection won't do anything against contaminate

I'm pretty certain that this is all false. Perhaps you're thinking of the old corrupter ability, but contaminate only stops production and research.

ddrt

United States32 Posts

October 12 2010 03:36 GMT

#63

Benny hill always gets a laugh. Please us it in every video posted… ever.

DreXxiN

United States494 Posts

October 12 2010 03:36 GMT

#64

I think there's a lot of hindsight bias in this thread. People read the theory and are focused on the theory, so go "Oh I'd notice that if it happened. NOT VIABLE."

I think in a real ladder scenario, it has it's niche moments, and when it's possible it could be pretty effective.

Anxiety

United States650 Posts

October 12 2010 03:41 GMT

#65

I had a ZvT where my 4 changelings had 2 thors wobble around and they died (tourny!) ^^. I lost that match.

EZjijy

United States1039 Posts

October 12 2010 03:46 GMT

#66

On October 12 2010 12:29 Soulous wrote:

Show nested quote +

I'm pretty certain that this is all false. Perhaps you're thinking of the old corrupter ability, but contaminate only stops production and research.

Can someone confirm this?

.Aar

2177 Posts

October 12 2010 03:47 GMT

#67

On October 12 2010 12:36 DreXxiN wrote:
I think there's a lot of hindsight bias in this thread. People read the theory and are focused on the theory, so go "Oh I'd notice that if it happened. NOT VIABLE."

I think in a real ladder scenario, it has it's niche moments, and when it's possible it could be pretty effective.

That seems to be the main reason this idea hasn't been suggested before. People talking about changelings are thinking about changelings, and think to themselves, well, I'd notice a changeling in my base. But in a real game, you're not thinking just about changelings, you're thinking about everything else, with changelings being only an infinitesimal part.

Of course, this exact idea doesn't rely on deception or lack of "clicking every marine to see if I can move it," but I'm seeing the same logic going on here.

P00RKID

United States424 Posts

October 12 2010 04:12 GMT

#68

I could see using a bunch of changelings against a heavy marine composition bio ball. Run them in the back when they engage your roach / ling / banelings. When the T micros his ball backward at any time, bunch up changelings and hold position. There is going to be a lot of over kill on 5hp changelings unless he singles out a few marines to pick them off, or he doesn't pick any off and you can trip up some units and pick them off.

Seems very hard to ever do, but it has potential.

Buddhist

United States658 Posts

October 12 2010 04:15 GMT

#69

I've seen this done by a korean zerg against a protoss in a ladder game. He used one changeling to block the choke at the ramp, and nydus'd in the main. It stopped the toss momentarily, allowing him to do more damage with the nydus, before backing out again.

SoJu.WeRRa

Korea (South)820 Posts

October 12 2010 04:20 GMT

#70

I hope to see JulyZerg do that!!

fams

Canada731 Posts

October 12 2010 04:22 GMT

#71

Your video showing the application of this is fairly limited.

I used to do this during the beta and again when the game came retail, it works really well Vs. low level players, specifically protoss players. Whenever you play against a player who has a tight choke (protoss using a zealot to block his ramp, etc.) you can simply drop another zealot in front, and if you are lucky they wont realize it and you can stall them for a short while.

However, this would not work at high levels. In all honesty, you could also block a small ramp as a Zerg with infestors using Infested Terran to block the ramp. But again, that is very limited, and if you need to resort to such tactics, you probably wont win anyway.

That is just my opinion though.

Hypatio

549 Posts

October 12 2010 04:22 GMT

#72

A good player could probably blow through those changelings in about 3 seconds.

RainWhisper

United Arab Emirates333 Posts

October 12 2010 04:22 GMT

#73

Funniest part was the "HAHAHAHA", i actually lolled.

peachsncream

United States289 Posts

October 12 2010 04:39 GMT

#74

this is just a waste of energy, your better off using contaminate, shift clicking 30 changelings takes less than 3 seconds

Lighioana

Norway466 Posts

October 12 2010 10:02 GMT

#75

Actually I've seen some norwegian player doing this on the one of the Zotacs/CraftCups with only 2 changelings on Blistering sands. He got into the finals.

geno

United States1404 Posts

October 12 2010 10:06 GMT

#76

A couple friends I played with last week for Funday Monday were doing mass Overseer, Evo chambers/spine/spore, and Thors and changelings proved to be pretty awesome. There were SOOO many at a certain point that their only real option was to get some AoE or to just wait it out since single targeting would have taken forever to break through. Or they could just go air (which they did, lol).

Garson

Sweden203 Posts

October 12 2010 10:13 GMT

#77

would be cool if you had a replay for this move to show it's real and not just fake with some friend of yours

TheDna

Germany577 Posts

October 12 2010 10:15 GMT

#78

Huge time delay ? Clicking 25(or 50 times if u prefer a click) times doesnt take that long with players having >300apm in battles.
I think this is not only useless but a huge waste of gas and overlord energy.
This could never ever be even a bit useful in a game of 2 good players.

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

October 12 2010 10:17 GMT

#79

Sen did this like a week ago on his stream when he was playing on the NA server. yeah he was just kidding around against a lower skilled player but it was quite funny to see.