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Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
February 11 2011 20:20 GMT
#281
Not really worth it still, the energy is better off gooping the hatcheries.
JBrown08
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada306 Posts
February 11 2011 20:27 GMT
#282
On February 12 2011 05:11 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 07:25 absalom86 wrote:
On January 12 2011 06:35 dkim wrote:
would be better as baneling soaker than a "changefield" imo but both pretty impractical o.O


Not sure what you mean with " baneling soaker ". Using banelings to kill changelings is a loss in my books.


Thats the point he means drop a changeling on top of banelings to make a couple blow up


Im pretty sure you have to manually target changelings to attack, so dropping them on banelings would have no effect unless your opponent specifically clicked on it. So I don't practically see why you would a) manually attack a changeling with your blings if you saw it drop or b) why you would manually attack a changling that you didnt see drop (and hence looks like your own ling). Both seem unlikley.
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
February 11 2011 20:31 GMT
#283
On February 12 2011 05:27 JBrown08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 05:11 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
On February 11 2011 07:25 absalom86 wrote:
On January 12 2011 06:35 dkim wrote:
would be better as baneling soaker than a "changefield" imo but both pretty impractical o.O


Not sure what you mean with " baneling soaker ". Using banelings to kill changelings is a loss in my books.


Thats the point he means drop a changeling on top of banelings to make a couple blow up


Im pretty sure you have to manually target changelings to attack, so dropping them on banelings would have no effect unless your opponent specifically clicked on it. So I don't practically see why you would a) manually attack a changeling with your blings if you saw it drop or b) why you would manually attack a changling that you didnt see drop (and hence looks like your own ling). Both seem unlikley.


A changeling that has just been dropped from an overseer is a hostile unit, not disguised instantly, and is auto attacked by nearby enemy units.
Thief @ #teamliquid @ Quakenet
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
February 11 2011 20:39 GMT
#284
On February 12 2011 05:31 absalom86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 05:27 JBrown08 wrote:
On February 12 2011 05:11 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
On February 11 2011 07:25 absalom86 wrote:
On January 12 2011 06:35 dkim wrote:
would be better as baneling soaker than a "changefield" imo but both pretty impractical o.O


Not sure what you mean with " baneling soaker ". Using banelings to kill changelings is a loss in my books.


Thats the point he means drop a changeling on top of banelings to make a couple blow up


Im pretty sure you have to manually target changelings to attack, so dropping them on banelings would have no effect unless your opponent specifically clicked on it. So I don't practically see why you would a) manually attack a changeling with your blings if you saw it drop or b) why you would manually attack a changling that you didnt see drop (and hence looks like your own ling). Both seem unlikley.


A changeling that has just been dropped from an overseer is a hostile unit, not disguised instantly, and is auto attacked by nearby enemy units.



I think the Changeling is really fragile and the IA on the banelings wouldn't allow many of them to blow up at the same time.

//tx
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
February 11 2011 21:05 GMT
#285
On February 12 2011 05:39 Tschis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 05:31 absalom86 wrote:
On February 12 2011 05:27 JBrown08 wrote:
On February 12 2011 05:11 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
On February 11 2011 07:25 absalom86 wrote:
On January 12 2011 06:35 dkim wrote:
would be better as baneling soaker than a "changefield" imo but both pretty impractical o.O


Not sure what you mean with " baneling soaker ". Using banelings to kill changelings is a loss in my books.


Thats the point he means drop a changeling on top of banelings to make a couple blow up


Im pretty sure you have to manually target changelings to attack, so dropping them on banelings would have no effect unless your opponent specifically clicked on it. So I don't practically see why you would a) manually attack a changeling with your blings if you saw it drop or b) why you would manually attack a changling that you didnt see drop (and hence looks like your own ling). Both seem unlikley.


A changeling that has just been dropped from an overseer is a hostile unit, not disguised instantly, and is auto attacked by nearby enemy units.



I think the Changeling is really fragile and the IA on the banelings wouldn't allow many of them to blow up at the same time.

//tx


1 changeling is 25 overseer energy, 1 baneling is 50 minerals 25 gas ( math ? ) so i'd say that's a very worthy trade.
Thief @ #teamliquid @ Quakenet
JBrown08
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada306 Posts
February 12 2011 00:40 GMT
#286
On February 12 2011 05:31 absalom86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 05:27 JBrown08 wrote:
On February 12 2011 05:11 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
On February 11 2011 07:25 absalom86 wrote:
On January 12 2011 06:35 dkim wrote:
would be better as baneling soaker than a "changefield" imo but both pretty impractical o.O


Not sure what you mean with " baneling soaker ". Using banelings to kill changelings is a loss in my books.


Thats the point he means drop a changeling on top of banelings to make a couple blow up


Im pretty sure you have to manually target changelings to attack, so dropping them on banelings would have no effect unless your opponent specifically clicked on it. So I don't practically see why you would a) manually attack a changeling with your blings if you saw it drop or b) why you would manually attack a changling that you didnt see drop (and hence looks like your own ling). Both seem unlikley.


A changeling that has just been dropped from an overseer is a hostile unit, not disguised instantly, and is auto attacked by nearby enemy units.


Well I apologize then, for I was misinformed. However I do have a questions:

Does the bling still attack automatically if the changling is dropped in sight but changes form before it is in range? Or do you have to time it exactly and have it attacked before it is morphed?
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
February 12 2011 02:22 GMT
#287
On February 12 2011 09:40 JBrown08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 05:31 absalom86 wrote:
On February 12 2011 05:27 JBrown08 wrote:
On February 12 2011 05:11 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
On February 11 2011 07:25 absalom86 wrote:
On January 12 2011 06:35 dkim wrote:
would be better as baneling soaker than a "changefield" imo but both pretty impractical o.O


Not sure what you mean with " baneling soaker ". Using banelings to kill changelings is a loss in my books.


Thats the point he means drop a changeling on top of banelings to make a couple blow up


Im pretty sure you have to manually target changelings to attack, so dropping them on banelings would have no effect unless your opponent specifically clicked on it. So I don't practically see why you would a) manually attack a changeling with your blings if you saw it drop or b) why you would manually attack a changling that you didnt see drop (and hence looks like your own ling). Both seem unlikley.


A changeling that has just been dropped from an overseer is a hostile unit, not disguised instantly, and is auto attacked by nearby enemy units.


Well I apologize then, for I was misinformed. However I do have a questions:

Does the bling still attack automatically if the changling is dropped in sight but changes form before it is in range? Or do you have to time it exactly and have it attacked before it is morphed?


it works like dropping marauders on banelings, you just drop right on the ball of banelings and if the zerg isnt paying attention they will auto attack.
Thief @ #teamliquid @ Quakenet
Cabracan
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand119 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 04:46:50
February 12 2011 04:45 GMT
#288
Cool idea. I voted Losira because after Losira vs Bomber in the GSTL this is exactly what I would expect from him. Anyway time to go try this in customs.
SlapMySalami
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
February 12 2011 04:54 GMT
#289
tlo should have been on the poll list
marineking will u huk my bigtt1 ilu
Rage178
Profile Joined October 2010
United States127 Posts
February 12 2011 04:59 GMT
#290
Is it that hard to kill one changeling?
Whattayagonnado.
AwallFTW
Profile Joined January 2011
United States103 Posts
February 12 2011 08:24 GMT
#291
On February 12 2011 13:54 SlapMySalami wrote:
tlo should have been on the poll list


I completely agree with your comment. To me TLO is the most innovative player out there. I love his tactics, he is willing to try out anything. He is the Batman of Sc2. Proxy supply depot? Yeah he can make that work.
MC Probe, Yeah, Yeah Thats Me... MC Probe... Seriously.
TheDominator
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
New Zealand336 Posts
February 12 2011 08:38 GMT
#292
This has the potential to work really well. If you have more than 1 overseer, lets say 3, thats 12 changelings. It will take time to realise wats happening (thats already several things dead) and will take a tiny bit to kill all 12 (more free stuff to destroy). Thats a pretty good harrass, and it cost you absolutely nothing. And thats assumng the opponnt does well. As you saw above, they epic failed, and can happen any game. more overseers also means more buildings/probes you kill. Also, if you killed an vital tech building, it cud be gg. Very creative, and its not that micro intensive or anything. I want to see a pro use this.
You can go a long way with a smile. You can go a lot farther with a smile and a gun.
whitefenix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden40 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 12:40:53
February 12 2011 12:39 GMT
#293
This was hilarious! Good job :D
If he was prepared for it he could probably attack-queue all of them and kill them quite fast
I think CatZ would be the first to utilize this, he always does crazy stuff like this
Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence
GFree
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore71 Posts
February 12 2011 13:57 GMT
#294
This would actually be somewhat viable on Crossfire, that map is full of narrow pathways. You could even cut off retreats. Would definitely be pimp if it happened in GSL... Can only wish... :p
NeWnAr
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore231 Posts
February 12 2011 14:37 GMT
#295
Dude you can kill the changelings with workers. Once the opponent realizes it's easy to counter.
Live For the Swarm!
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
February 12 2011 14:49 GMT
#296
On February 12 2011 17:38 TheDominator wrote:
This has the potential to work really well. If you have more than 1 overseer, lets say 3, thats 12 changelings. It will take time to realise wats happening (thats already several things dead) and will take a tiny bit to kill all 12 (more free stuff to destroy). Thats a pretty good harrass, and it cost you absolutely nothing. And thats assumng the opponnt does well. As you saw above, they epic failed, and can happen any game. more overseers also means more buildings/probes you kill. Also, if you killed an vital tech building, it cud be gg. Very creative, and its not that micro intensive or anything. I want to see a pro use this.


I've seen MorroW at least attempt to use this in a few games. Definately unexplored tactic and interesting to see more of it.
Thief @ #teamliquid @ Quakenet
GFree
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore71 Posts
February 12 2011 15:19 GMT
#297
On February 12 2011 23:37 NeWnAr wrote:
Dude you can kill the changelings with workers. Once the opponent realizes it's easy to counter.


I think the difficulty of dealing with this is the fact that you'd need to individually attack each changeling once they're morphed. Plus with the Nydus worm example, the changelings just buy time for the Nydus to pop up and unload enough units.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
February 12 2011 15:26 GMT
#298
haha this is brilliant
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Xodushai
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden174 Posts
February 12 2011 16:01 GMT
#299
As some pointed out, infested terrans could also be a choice, since they are quite durable in "egg" form.
S.O.L.I.D.
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
February 12 2011 16:27 GMT
#300
On February 12 2011 13:59 Rage178 wrote:
Is it that hard to kill one changeling?


No, but it's hard/takes a long time to kill 8, 12, 25, etc. Enough time to do some damage while your opponent is distracted.
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