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waxypants
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
September 29 2010 09:04 GMT
#401
Guys complaining about "abuse" need to grow up. Why do you hate people who don't follow your particular honor code? Blame Blizzard. Hate the game, not the player.
PanzerKing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States483 Posts
September 29 2010 09:05 GMT
#402
On September 29 2010 18:03 Grimmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:39 Foogs wrote:
IdrA I would love to hear your take on why Cool is having so much success in the GSL. Is it because he is mixing his game up so much and predicting builds of the other players? Or is it because he's extremely lucky?

This isn't a jab at all, just curious to what you think. Sorry if I missed your take on it in another thread somewhere. MAXIMUM RE-SPECT *snaps fingers like ali g*


Cool said he only wins 10% of the practice matches against his team mates as Zerg.


That doesn't matter if he keeps winning tournament games against T.
http://tkrmx.blogspot.com/
archon256
Profile Joined August 2010
United States363 Posts
September 29 2010 09:06 GMT
#403
I don't mind it when the pros argue, it adds flavor to the scene :D

But I just ignore it when others argue in threads like these.
"The troupe is ready, the stage is set. I come to dance, the dance of death"
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 09:13:40
September 29 2010 09:07 GMT
#404
On September 29 2010 17:54 Sqq wrote:
Wow you're references gets worse by the post. I'm glad you've acquired the talent of reusing shitty internet insults, and your effort is far from going unnoticed.


Yawn.

I never said he didn't play alot, I'm referring to how much of an upper-hand he could get from 2 hours of practicing the night BEFORE the finals. My point was essentially that it might be a reason to why he isn't universally viewed as a top top player by everyone (which anyone who wins an IEM should). But as the flawless and brilliant persona that you are did not make this connection, I'm inclined to believe that you're a) a douche b) mentally challenged, or c) both.


He practiced microing a single unit that his build depended on. How fucking hard is that to comprehend? How long do you need to practice reaper micro on the previous day before you can use 3 rax reaper? 4 hours? 6 hours?

Wait, you can't use 3 rax reaper, because it's an imba strategy vs Zerg. Morrow should have picked a mediocre strategy that would lower his chances of winning. He should have traveled to Korea and practiced for 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, because SC2 is not a competitive game where winning matters, but rather a ritualized martial art where going through the motions and living up to esoteric ideals is the only way to gain respect.

The reason he isn't universally viewed as a top player is because he plays Terran (and doesn't do the flashy nukeapaloozas of TLO), and Zerg fanboys are disproportionally represented.
whatsgrackalackin420
lovewithlea
Profile Joined March 2010
168 Posts
September 29 2010 09:07 GMT
#405
i didn't follow BW much. could someone explain to me what is meant by ladder abuse?

MorroW i really am impressed that you don't give a fuck what people think. I did not aprove your comments in that one particular thread that was quoted somewhere above saying Terrans practice more then Zerg.
But #1 doing this with your top5 rating
and #2 giving feedback in this thread
+ #3 telling us to give us the replay pack
+ #4 hopefully doing that soon

gives me a broner


again
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tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
September 29 2010 09:07 GMT
#406
On September 29 2010 18:05 PanzerKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 18:03 Grimmy wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:39 Foogs wrote:
IdrA I would love to hear your take on why Cool is having so much success in the GSL. Is it because he is mixing his game up so much and predicting builds of the other players? Or is it because he's extremely lucky?

This isn't a jab at all, just curious to what you think. Sorry if I missed your take on it in another thread somewhere. MAXIMUM RE-SPECT *snaps fingers like ali g*


Cool said he only wins 10% of the practice matches against his team mates as Zerg.


That doesn't matter if he keeps winning tournament games against T.


In a calm non-competitive situation when everyone thinks rationally he only wins 10%
In tournaments where his ability to keep...cool... really shows he's better then them.
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 09:29:00
September 29 2010 09:09 GMT
#407
Edit: nvm
PanzerKing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States483 Posts
September 29 2010 09:09 GMT
#408
On September 29 2010 18:01 AdrenalinG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:52 kojinshugi wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:48 w1kk wrote:
Thats how it goes if you abuse to the max. Still a very good player without abuse.Thats life.

If he can make it with zerg he gets some respect. Otherwise he stays the nr.1 terran abuser for the biggest part of the community.


You mean the vocal minority that plays Zerg because it's the one race where you can constantly lose and still claim you're better than your opponent because the other two races are imba and Zerg takes true skill?


I'd say it beats being the vocal majority that plays Terran because it's the one race where you can constantly win and still claim you're better than your opponent because the other two races don't know how to be creative and play right


Either way, the attitude that most Z players have is creating an inbred, backwards community of overly-defensive players who won't get any better until they stop convincing themselves that they're outplaying the opponent. It's simply not the way to get better at the game - you accept it for what it is, admit your weaknesses, and work on fixing them. Every time you open your mouth and make excuses for a loss, you retard your growth as a player - it's that simple.
http://tkrmx.blogspot.com/
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
September 29 2010 09:12 GMT
#409
On September 29 2010 18:07 lovewithlea wrote:
i didn't follow BW much. could someone explain to me what is meant by ladder abuse?

MorroW i really am impressed that you don't give a fuck what people think. I did not aprove your comments in that one particular thread that was quoted somewhere above saying Terrans practice more then Zerg.
But #1 doing this with your top5 rating
and #2 giving feedback in this thread
+ #3 telling us to give us the replay pack
+ #4 hopefully doing that soon

gives me a broner


again
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


from me


Lovin this quote... I need to come to the TL forums more often.

Can't wait for some updates. I'm heading to bed now, looking forward to reading 10 pages of this when I wake up. =D
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
September 29 2010 09:13 GMT
#410
On September 29 2010 18:01 AdrenalinG wrote:
I'd say it beats being the vocal majority that plays Terran because it's the one race where you can constantly win and still claim you're better than your opponent because the other two races don't know how to be creative and play right


Blizz should just release a Martyr Edition of SC2 for you people. The box wouldn't contain a game, but just a Wakizashi with the Zerg logo embossed on the blade.
whatsgrackalackin420
Jaug
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden249 Posts
September 29 2010 09:15 GMT
#411
Props to morrow, one of the better macro game players in the world. Always makes for great games.
Rawenkeke
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway350 Posts
September 29 2010 09:16 GMT
#412
On September 29 2010 06:44 lololol wrote:
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On September 29 2010 06:42 Nazza wrote:
a losing streak automatically means Zerg? since when? lol


He lost something like 1000 points.


So, morrow was 2.7k pts? Highly doubt that, he lost 150-250Max.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
September 29 2010 09:21 GMT
#413
On September 29 2010 17:46 midgettoes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:34 IdrA wrote:

oh i absolutely support it since it'll prove what a joke the game is right now without risking the reputation of one of the 5 remaining competitive zergs.

but people mentioning him in the same breath as me nony and ret for sc1 cannot happen, especially on the basis of that ladder.


I know you are a very well established player, and you are very well respected for your playstyle. But you seriously need to stop being so bitter imo. To be honest, you didn't lose the GSL because you are a bad player, or your race is underpowered, you lost because you were outplayed. In my books you are only as good as your last match, and that didn't give me evidence to suggest Zerg is horribly underpowered.


theres a difference between giving your opinion about something and being bitter. i think IdrA is just speaking his mind, whats wrong with that? he simply doesnt believe morrow was on his or level or the players hes mentioned. certainly doesnt sound bitter to me.

unless i missed it i dont see where he complains about him losing the GSL because of imbalance or whatever.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
berzerger
Profile Joined September 2010
Turkey95 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 09:23:41
September 29 2010 09:23 GMT
#414
so MorroW, replays please? I mean include the ones you lost too.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
September 29 2010 09:29 GMT
#415
On September 29 2010 18:07 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:54 Sqq wrote:
Wow you're references gets worse by the post. I'm glad you've acquired the talent of reusing shitty internet insults, and your effort is far from going unnoticed.


Yawn.

Show nested quote +
I never said he didn't play alot, I'm referring to how much of an upper-hand he could get from 2 hours of practicing the night BEFORE the finals. My point was essentially that it might be a reason to why he isn't universally viewed as a top top player by everyone (which anyone who wins an IEM should). But as the flawless and brilliant persona that you are did not make this connection, I'm inclined to believe that you're a) a douche b) mentally challenged, or c) both.


He practiced microing a single unit that his build depended on. How fucking hard is that to comprehend? How long do you need to practice reaper micro on the previous day before you can use 3 rax reaper? 4 hours? 6 hours?

Wait, you can't use 3 rax reaper, because it's an imba strategy vs Zerg. Morrow should have picked a mediocre strategy that would lower his chances of winning. He should have traveled to Korea and practiced for 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, because SC2 is not a competitive game where winning matters, but rather a ritualized martial art where going through the motions and living up to esoteric ideals is the only way to gain respect.

The reason he isn't universally viewed as a top player is because he plays Terran (and doesn't do the flashy nukeapaloozas of TLO), and Zerg fanboys are disproportionally represented.


again you totally fail to see what I said. The fact that all he needed to do was a few hour practice before his match to get a huge advantage, I'm not sure if you're arguing for the sake of argue or if you're completely dumb.
Dead girls don't say no.
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
September 29 2010 09:30 GMT
#416
On September 29 2010 18:21 Angelbelow wrote:
theres a difference between giving your opinion about something and being bitter. i think IdrA is just speaking his mind, whats wrong with that? he simply doesnt believe morrow was on his or level or the players hes mentioned. certainly doesnt sound bitter to me.

unless i missed it i dont see where he complains about him losing the GSL because of imbalance or whatever.


Publicly stating that the guy who beat you at a major tournament is the third smartest retard in special ed class isn't bitter?
whatsgrackalackin420
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
September 29 2010 09:31 GMT
#417
On September 29 2010 18:07 kojinshugi wrote:

He practiced microing a single unit that his build depended on. How fucking hard is that to comprehend? How long do you need to practice reaper micro on the previous day before you can use 3 rax reaper? 4 hours? 6 hours?


Not to be mean, but you're gold. What do you even know of micro practice?

Give one reason why you know that practicing for 2 hours on microing one unit > 12 hours a day microing many units.
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
waxypants
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
September 29 2010 09:31 GMT
#418
On September 29 2010 18:29 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 18:07 kojinshugi wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:54 Sqq wrote:
Wow you're references gets worse by the post. I'm glad you've acquired the talent of reusing shitty internet insults, and your effort is far from going unnoticed.


Yawn.

I never said he didn't play alot, I'm referring to how much of an upper-hand he could get from 2 hours of practicing the night BEFORE the finals. My point was essentially that it might be a reason to why he isn't universally viewed as a top top player by everyone (which anyone who wins an IEM should). But as the flawless and brilliant persona that you are did not make this connection, I'm inclined to believe that you're a) a douche b) mentally challenged, or c) both.


He practiced microing a single unit that his build depended on. How fucking hard is that to comprehend? How long do you need to practice reaper micro on the previous day before you can use 3 rax reaper? 4 hours? 6 hours?

Wait, you can't use 3 rax reaper, because it's an imba strategy vs Zerg. Morrow should have picked a mediocre strategy that would lower his chances of winning. He should have traveled to Korea and practiced for 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, because SC2 is not a competitive game where winning matters, but rather a ritualized martial art where going through the motions and living up to esoteric ideals is the only way to gain respect.

The reason he isn't universally viewed as a top player is because he plays Terran (and doesn't do the flashy nukeapaloozas of TLO), and Zerg fanboys are disproportionally represented.


again you totally fail to see what I said. The fact that all he needed to do was a few hour practice before his match to get a huge advantage, I'm not sure if you're arguing for the sake of argue or if you're completely dumb.


It seems that you are assuming that without practicing his reaper strategy that he would have been way behind or something.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
September 29 2010 09:35 GMT
#419
On September 29 2010 18:31 waxypants wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 18:29 Sqq wrote:
On September 29 2010 18:07 kojinshugi wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:54 Sqq wrote:
Wow you're references gets worse by the post. I'm glad you've acquired the talent of reusing shitty internet insults, and your effort is far from going unnoticed.


Yawn.

I never said he didn't play alot, I'm referring to how much of an upper-hand he could get from 2 hours of practicing the night BEFORE the finals. My point was essentially that it might be a reason to why he isn't universally viewed as a top top player by everyone (which anyone who wins an IEM should). But as the flawless and brilliant persona that you are did not make this connection, I'm inclined to believe that you're a) a douche b) mentally challenged, or c) both.


He practiced microing a single unit that his build depended on. How fucking hard is that to comprehend? How long do you need to practice reaper micro on the previous day before you can use 3 rax reaper? 4 hours? 6 hours?

Wait, you can't use 3 rax reaper, because it's an imba strategy vs Zerg. Morrow should have picked a mediocre strategy that would lower his chances of winning. He should have traveled to Korea and practiced for 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, because SC2 is not a competitive game where winning matters, but rather a ritualized martial art where going through the motions and living up to esoteric ideals is the only way to gain respect.

The reason he isn't universally viewed as a top player is because he plays Terran (and doesn't do the flashy nukeapaloozas of TLO), and Zerg fanboys are disproportionally represented.


again you totally fail to see what I said. The fact that all he needed to do was a few hour practice before his match to get a huge advantage, I'm not sure if you're arguing for the sake of argue or if you're completely dumb.


It seems that you are assuming that without practicing his reaper strategy that he would have been way behind or something.


No he wouldn't have been far behind, but the fact that 2 hours of practicing gave him a huge advantage is my point. That there is such a unit that you can sit down the day before a fucking final and practice with a few hours and get a huge advantage. I'm sure Morrow would have brought the game to IdrA even without it, but you can't help but feel because of the unit (reaper - terran t1) gave him such a lead, that alot of people felt that when he said "Yeah I used 2 hours the day before to practice the reaper micro" that it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
Dead girls don't say no.
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 09:38:22
September 29 2010 09:36 GMT
#420
On September 29 2010 18:35 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 18:31 waxypants wrote:
On September 29 2010 18:29 Sqq wrote:
On September 29 2010 18:07 kojinshugi wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:54 Sqq wrote:
Wow you're references gets worse by the post. I'm glad you've acquired the talent of reusing shitty internet insults, and your effort is far from going unnoticed.


Yawn.

I never said he didn't play alot, I'm referring to how much of an upper-hand he could get from 2 hours of practicing the night BEFORE the finals. My point was essentially that it might be a reason to why he isn't universally viewed as a top top player by everyone (which anyone who wins an IEM should). But as the flawless and brilliant persona that you are did not make this connection, I'm inclined to believe that you're a) a douche b) mentally challenged, or c) both.


He practiced microing a single unit that his build depended on. How fucking hard is that to comprehend? How long do you need to practice reaper micro on the previous day before you can use 3 rax reaper? 4 hours? 6 hours?

Wait, you can't use 3 rax reaper, because it's an imba strategy vs Zerg. Morrow should have picked a mediocre strategy that would lower his chances of winning. He should have traveled to Korea and practiced for 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, because SC2 is not a competitive game where winning matters, but rather a ritualized martial art where going through the motions and living up to esoteric ideals is the only way to gain respect.

The reason he isn't universally viewed as a top player is because he plays Terran (and doesn't do the flashy nukeapaloozas of TLO), and Zerg fanboys are disproportionally represented.


again you totally fail to see what I said. The fact that all he needed to do was a few hour practice before his match to get a huge advantage, I'm not sure if you're arguing for the sake of argue or if you're completely dumb.


It seems that you are assuming that without practicing his reaper strategy that he would have been way behind or something.


No he wouldn't have been far behind, but the fact that 2 hours of practicing gave him a huge advantage is my point. That there is such a unit that you can sit down the day before a fucking final and practice with a few hours and get a huge advantage. I'm sure Morrow would have brought the game to IdrA even without it, but you can't help but feel because of the unit (reaper - terran t1) gave him such a lead, that alot of people felt that when he said "Yeah I used 2 hours the day before to practice the reaper micro" that it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.


Actually, he may have been far behind.

If he didn't practice it, the reapers would have died to the lings. This means IdrA spends less gas and minerals on Roaches and lings, which means more drones, which would have put him far ahead, actually.

Not to mention a faster lair.
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
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