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Foogs
Profile Joined April 2009
40 Posts
September 29 2010 08:39 GMT
#381
IdrA I would love to hear your take on why Cool is having so much success in the GSL. Is it because he is mixing his game up so much and predicting builds of the other players? Or is it because he's extremely lucky?

This isn't a jab at all, just curious to what you think. Sorry if I missed your take on it in another thread somewhere. MAXIMUM RE-SPECT *snaps fingers like ali g*
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 08:43:35
September 29 2010 08:41 GMT
#382
On September 29 2010 17:39 Foogs wrote:
IdrA I would love to hear your take on why Cool is having so much success in the GSL. Is it because he is mixing his game up so much and predicting builds of the other players? Or is it because he's extremely lucky?

This isn't a jab at all, just curious to what you think. Sorry if I missed your take on it in another thread somewhere. MAXIMUM RE-SPECT *snaps fingers like ali g*

His Fruits are just this much bigger than everyones else.


Ps: <----------------------------------> - ^= [cm] = 50 cm
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
September 29 2010 08:41 GMT
#383
Judging from his achievement, I doubt that all his recent games are Zergs. He has new Protoss achievement too.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 29 2010 08:44 GMT
#384
It is annoying acting people like MorroW just turned up in SC2...he, along with Kolll was one of the most recent impressive up and coming foreign players in BW.
JohnGreggor
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada148 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 08:46:47
September 29 2010 08:46 GMT
#385

roflwhat
he cheated his way to that ladder score. it was technically within the rules but it was certainly not legit. he was nothing at bw. saying you were the third best sc1 terran outside of korea, which is arguable in itself, is like saying you're the third smartest kid in the special class.


Omg I'm humbled to have the Idra flame warming the bottom of my post, tell it like it is brotha. Props for sticking with Z so long in this hostile environment and playing solid games.

Anyways, is debating if Morrow was worth a damn or not in SC1 really relevant? He has the highest amount of SC2 tourney wins and backs his stance with that fact. Even if he was a D player in BW it doesn't change what he has accomplished now.
midgettoes
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia180 Posts
September 29 2010 08:46 GMT
#386
On September 29 2010 17:34 IdrA wrote:

oh i absolutely support it since it'll prove what a joke the game is right now without risking the reputation of one of the 5 remaining competitive zergs.

but people mentioning him in the same breath as me nony and ret for sc1 cannot happen, especially on the basis of that ladder.


I know you are a very well established player, and you are very well respected for your playstyle. But you seriously need to stop being so bitter imo. To be honest, you didn't lose the GSL because you are a bad player, or your race is underpowered, you lost because you were outplayed. In my books you are only as good as your last match, and that didn't give me evidence to suggest Zerg is horribly underpowered.

MorroW, I hope you put in the hard yards and do well as Zerg. I would love to tune into the go4SC2 cup this week to see MorroW(Z) playing, and progressing. You have shown you are willing to put in the time and have the ability to be a top level player and hopefully results reflect this.

That said, please don't give up your Terran completely You are certainly one of the top 3 players I want to watch right now, and that's because of your cool playstyle. :D
w1kk
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany17 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 08:48:57
September 29 2010 08:48 GMT
#387
On September 29 2010 17:44 infinity2k9 wrote:
It is annoying acting people like MorroW just turned up in SC2...he, along with Kolll was one of the most recent impressive up and coming foreign players in BW.


Thats how it goes if you abuse to the max. Still a very good player without abuse.Thats life.

If he can make it with zerg he gets some respect. Otherwise he stays the nr.1 terran abuser for the biggest part of the community.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
September 29 2010 08:48 GMT
#388
we have to admit it is kind of retarded to switch to another race when you are at the top.
he would need a month to be good as zerg and even then he can't be sure if he would be also at the top as zerg.

so, I don't think he will keep playing as zerg. he was probably just checking/testing the race.
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
September 29 2010 08:50 GMT
#389
On September 29 2010 17:46 Gono wrote:
Anyways, is debating if Morrow was worth a damn or not in SC1 really relevant? He has the highest amount of SC2 tourney wins and backs his stance with that fact. Even if he was a D player in BW it doesn't change what he has accomplished now.


If Idra wins - he's an amazing player.

If Idra loses - the opponent is a one-trick pony scrub, and SC2 is a complete joke anyway, and by the way several years ago Idra was a promising foreigner in a different, albeit related RTS!
whatsgrackalackin420
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
September 29 2010 08:50 GMT
#390
I'd love to see MorroW wreck idrA some more with another race / when Terran is "fixed". How often will you eat those words idrA? I'm guessing they'll catch up to you.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
w1kk
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany17 Posts
September 29 2010 08:50 GMT
#391
On September 29 2010 17:48 ilbh wrote:
we have to admit it is kind of retarded to switch to another race when you are at the top.
he would need a month to be good as zerg and even then he can't be sure if he would be also at the top as zerg.

so, I don't think he will keep playing as zerg. he was probably just checking/testing the race.



of course he will not stay with zerg.
he is doing it for the money. and you cant win money with zerg unless you are a fruitseller.
waxypants
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
September 29 2010 08:52 GMT
#392
On September 29 2010 17:34 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:30 ilbh wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:09 IdrA wrote:
On September 29 2010 15:17 theqat wrote:
Any skeptics of MorroW's skill reading this thread, please take my word for it: outside Korea, he is in the top 5 in terms of pure Starcraft talent, period. If he went to Korea he would be among the most successful foreigners.

Other than Ret, Nony, and Idra, few or no foreigners had as much Brood War success as MorroW on the foreign scene in the past two years. This is the guy who finished second in the TSL2 ladder virtually out of the blue--just behind Idra and 417 points ahead of anyone else--when almost no one knew who he was and even fewer believed in him.



roflwhat
he cheated his way to that ladder score. it was technically within the rules but it was certainly not legit. he was nothing at bw. saying you were the third best sc1 terran outside of korea, which is arguable in itself, is like saying you're the third smartest kid in the special class.



almost everyone cheated dodging koreans. anyway, he is one of the best foreigners in SC2 and you can't deny that. he is switching from T to Zerg, you should support him lol

oh i absolutely support it since it'll prove what a joke the game is right now without risking the reputation of one of the 5 remaining competitive zergs.

but people mentioning him in the same breath as me nony and ret for sc1 cannot happen, especially on the basis of that ladder.


Come down from the clouds for 2 seconds and realize that an A level BW Terran foreigner is damn good and is probably better than 99% of RTS players ever. Just because someone isn't up to the skill level of people who play 12 hours a day doesn't mean they don't deserve any respect whatsoever.
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
September 29 2010 08:52 GMT
#393
On September 29 2010 17:48 w1kk wrote:
Thats how it goes if you abuse to the max. Still a very good player without abuse.Thats life.

If he can make it with zerg he gets some respect. Otherwise he stays the nr.1 terran abuser for the biggest part of the community.


You mean the vocal minority that plays Zerg because it's the one race where you can constantly lose and still claim you're better than your opponent because the other two races are imba and Zerg takes true skill?
whatsgrackalackin420
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
September 29 2010 08:54 GMT
#394
On September 29 2010 17:34 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:30 ilbh wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:09 IdrA wrote:
On September 29 2010 15:17 theqat wrote:
Any skeptics of MorroW's skill reading this thread, please take my word for it: outside Korea, he is in the top 5 in terms of pure Starcraft talent, period. If he went to Korea he would be among the most successful foreigners.

Other than Ret, Nony, and Idra, few or no foreigners had as much Brood War success as MorroW on the foreign scene in the past two years. This is the guy who finished second in the TSL2 ladder virtually out of the blue--just behind Idra and 417 points ahead of anyone else--when almost no one knew who he was and even fewer believed in him.



roflwhat
he cheated his way to that ladder score. it was technically within the rules but it was certainly not legit. he was nothing at bw. saying you were the third best sc1 terran outside of korea, which is arguable in itself, is like saying you're the third smartest kid in the special class.



almost everyone cheated dodging koreans. anyway, he is one of the best foreigners in SC2 and you can't deny that. he is switching from T to Zerg, you should support him lol

oh i absolutely support it since it'll prove what a joke the game is right now without risking the reputation of one of the 5 remaining competitive zergs.

but people mentioning him in the same breath as me nony and ret for sc1 cannot happen, especially on the basis of that ladder.


It's good thing then that nony and ret can't be mentioned in the same breath for sc2. Why don't you switch to terran and prove it yourself?

Banelings are too cute to blow up
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
September 29 2010 08:54 GMT
#395
On September 29 2010 17:33 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:21 Sqq wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:12 kojinshugi wrote:
On September 29 2010 16:55 Sqq wrote:
FAO MorroW. I think one of the reason you're seen as "overrated" because of your race is the comment at IEM. IdrA - spending 12 hours a day practicing his race, and you said "I used a few hours yesterday to practice my reaper micro". It just goes to show how ridiculous Terran was \ is.


Even if he did say that, let's analyze what it is and why you're talking out of your ass:

Spending several hours practicing microing a single unit the day before

vs

Spending 12 hours a day practicing his entire race

It's like you're comparing bacon to the Olympics.


Oh you think you're so smart doing the backon \ olympics reference just because you listened to State of the game. Guess what it makes you look a complete tool.


Yes, a joke made at the end of my post invalidates what I said before it. Can you post a link to your diploma from the Online University of Debating Like an Asshat?

Show nested quote +
The point I was making is that because he practiced a few hours with a unit, he could secure a win at IEM. Which in itself is fucking idiotic. If you listened to the state of the game you might have heard what they talked about last week. That players playing less than so and so many hours a week will never become the best. Its weird that MorroW could practice with a singel unit just before a final and get such a HUGE advantage.


Yes, because MorroW has never practiced SC2 before in his life. He came in cold and his entire experience was limited to practicing reaper micro for two hours the day before. He, like every player who ever beats Idra, is obviously a worthless scrub who 1a2a3a's his way to an undeserved victory.

(to the Aspie population of TL.net - the above is sarcasm)


Wow you're references gets worse by the post. I'm glad you've acquired the talent of reusing shitty internet insults, and your effort is far from going unnoticed.

I never said he didn't play alot, I'm referring to how much of an upper-hand he could get from 2 hours of practicing the night BEFORE the finals. My point was essentially that it might be a reason to why he isn't universally viewed as a top top player by everyone (which anyone who wins an IEM should). But as the flawless and brilliant persona that you are did not make this connection, I'm inclined to believe that you're a) a douche b) mentally challenged, or c) both.
Dead girls don't say no.
w1kk
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany17 Posts
September 29 2010 08:55 GMT
#396
On September 29 2010 17:52 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:48 w1kk wrote:
Thats how it goes if you abuse to the max. Still a very good player without abuse.Thats life.

If he can make it with zerg he gets some respect. Otherwise he stays the nr.1 terran abuser for the biggest part of the community.


You mean the vocal minority that plays Zerg because it's the one race where you can constantly lose and still claim you're better than your opponent because the other two races are imba and Zerg takes true skill?


you got it!
adrenaLinG
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada676 Posts
September 29 2010 09:01 GMT
#397
On September 29 2010 17:52 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:48 w1kk wrote:
Thats how it goes if you abuse to the max. Still a very good player without abuse.Thats life.

If he can make it with zerg he gets some respect. Otherwise he stays the nr.1 terran abuser for the biggest part of the community.


You mean the vocal minority that plays Zerg because it's the one race where you can constantly lose and still claim you're better than your opponent because the other two races are imba and Zerg takes true skill?


I'd say it beats being the vocal majority that plays Terran because it's the one race where you can constantly win and still claim you're better than your opponent because the other two races don't know how to be creative and play right
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
waxypants
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
September 29 2010 09:02 GMT
#398
On September 29 2010 17:54 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:33 kojinshugi wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:21 Sqq wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:12 kojinshugi wrote:
On September 29 2010 16:55 Sqq wrote:
FAO MorroW. I think one of the reason you're seen as "overrated" because of your race is the comment at IEM. IdrA - spending 12 hours a day practicing his race, and you said "I used a few hours yesterday to practice my reaper micro". It just goes to show how ridiculous Terran was \ is.


Even if he did say that, let's analyze what it is and why you're talking out of your ass:

Spending several hours practicing microing a single unit the day before

vs

Spending 12 hours a day practicing his entire race

It's like you're comparing bacon to the Olympics.


Oh you think you're so smart doing the backon \ olympics reference just because you listened to State of the game. Guess what it makes you look a complete tool.


Yes, a joke made at the end of my post invalidates what I said before it. Can you post a link to your diploma from the Online University of Debating Like an Asshat?

The point I was making is that because he practiced a few hours with a unit, he could secure a win at IEM. Which in itself is fucking idiotic. If you listened to the state of the game you might have heard what they talked about last week. That players playing less than so and so many hours a week will never become the best. Its weird that MorroW could practice with a singel unit just before a final and get such a HUGE advantage.


Yes, because MorroW has never practiced SC2 before in his life. He came in cold and his entire experience was limited to practicing reaper micro for two hours the day before. He, like every player who ever beats Idra, is obviously a worthless scrub who 1a2a3a's his way to an undeserved victory.

(to the Aspie population of TL.net - the above is sarcasm)


Wow you're references gets worse by the post. I'm glad you've acquired the talent of reusing shitty internet insults, and your effort is far from going unnoticed.

I never said he didn't play alot, I'm referring to how much of an upper-hand he could get from 2 hours of practicing the night BEFORE the finals. My point was essentially that it might be a reason to why he isn't universally viewed as a top top player by everyone (which anyone who wins an IEM should). But as the flawless and brilliant persona that you are did not make this connection, I'm inclined to believe that you're a) a douche b) mentally challenged, or c) both.


How do you know how it would have went if he didn't do the reaper play. It seems that you are assuming he would have been way behind without the reapers.
faction123
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Belgium949 Posts
September 29 2010 09:03 GMT
#399
good on morrow for having the balls to try this, surely knowing that people would talk about it like this

he's gotta be having fun doing it otherwise he probably wouldn't have played 30 losses in a row
Grimmy
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa29 Posts
September 29 2010 09:03 GMT
#400
On September 29 2010 17:39 Foogs wrote:
IdrA I would love to hear your take on why Cool is having so much success in the GSL. Is it because he is mixing his game up so much and predicting builds of the other players? Or is it because he's extremely lucky?

This isn't a jab at all, just curious to what you think. Sorry if I missed your take on it in another thread somewhere. MAXIMUM RE-SPECT *snaps fingers like ali g*


Cool said he only wins 10% of the practice matches against his team mates as Zerg.
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