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CajunMan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States823 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 08:48:27
December 18 2012 08:47 GMT
#51901
EDIT: lol nvm
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
December 18 2012 08:48 GMT
#51902
I think what Catz is saying is that having fun at someone's expense -- particularly if it's an attribute that they're born with or is the basis of they're whole identity -- just to score a cheap laugh from the masses is a bit of a dick-move.

That's not to say that it doesn't happen all the time or that it's evil. But still, it's dick-ish.

There is a reason that most comedians are self-loathing and hate themselves. A lot of them know they make a living almost entirely from being dicks.
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
December 18 2012 08:54 GMT
#51903
So where's the mp3?
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 09:22:26
December 18 2012 09:12 GMT
#51904
ETA on the vod? Can't wait :D

Edit: Its up on twitch!
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
December 18 2012 09:21 GMT
#51905
On December 18 2012 17:41 CajunMan wrote:
Wait a fucking second lol. I didn't hear the whole thing till just now. Really? That's all he fucking said? 2good spend 15 minutes shitting on all the other girls in esports and you guys go nuts because he said that about scarlet.... are you fucking serious... My mind is blown haha wtf is wrong with you people? Sometimes you people leave me in such a state of wtf I just don't know holy shit.


I'm pretty sure 95% of the comments about the other esports women were compliments (at least in part) to their looks or some other attribute. Classy? No. Sexist? Yes. Incredibly offensive? Extremely unlikely.

The only other really negative thing was he said that Lindsey Sporrer was stupid. That line was pretty out of place too.
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
December 18 2012 09:31 GMT
#51906
On December 18 2012 17:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
im not surprised that people make offensive jokes about child molestation, rape, mass murderers, holocausts and genocide.... i am surprised that people would come on and justify them as appropriate.


Laughter has been a way of dealing with such traumatic / hair-raising events since forever. It happened during World War 2, it happened after the 9/11 attacks and it will happen again and again.

Yes, this may not work for some people - in such simple ignore the jokes you do not like or even flip the switch. But leave the pitchfork in the shed.
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z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 09:39:14
December 18 2012 09:37 GMT
#51907
Summary of the 2GD comments: "We all have different interpretations of what is funny/appropriate, but my interpretation is the only correct one and everyone else should change to fit my ideals."
twitch.tv/fartymcbutt
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
December 18 2012 10:04 GMT
#51908
i feel they could be petting unicorns on the show and there would still be angry people on the forums / reddit. nothing happened. people who haven't watched yet and are reading this thread are going to be really disappointed about the lack of actual drama-worthy statements
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
Mabius
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada323 Posts
December 18 2012 10:25 GMT
#51909
The TL community or Starcraft 2 Community in general is a living breathing hypocrisy. You guys stand by and laugh while someone makes sexists comments or uses offensive language but the second a scarlet joke happens WHOA... HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE...!!! What if any of those girls they were judging really got hurt by those comments or felt bad after? Why do their feelings not matter as much as scarlets?

Grow a pair.
"Every revolution carries within it the seeds of it's own destruction.. and empires that rise will one day fall"
Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
December 18 2012 10:45 GMT
#51910
On December 18 2012 19:25 Mabius wrote:
The TL community or Starcraft 2 Community in general is a living breathing hypocrisy. You guys stand by and laugh while someone makes sexists comments or uses offensive language but the second a scarlet joke happens WHOA... HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE...!!! What if any of those girls they were judging really got hurt by those comments or felt bad after? Why do their feelings not matter as much as scarlets?

Grow a pair.


Second person to think we're only defending Scarlett. Glad you bother actually reading the complaints.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10835 Posts
December 18 2012 10:49 GMT
#51911
Oh noes, someone made a not 100% appropriate joke.

CALL THE POLICE!
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
December 18 2012 10:56 GMT
#51912
On December 18 2012 19:49 Velr wrote:
Oh noes, someone made a not 100% appropriate joke.

CALL THE POLICE!


That only works in some parts of Europe, Asia, South America, and Africa. (Appropriateness of the joke itself may vary by geographic location as well.) Within the United States, the police largely won't regulate speech. (Unless, of course, it is specific and directed at the individual police officer's appearance, lineage, or sexual preference. In which case the offender may be "regulated" on a number of other charges, but not the specific speech itself.)

TL; dr - Police don't care unless you are insulting the officer's mama.
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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
December 18 2012 10:58 GMT
#51913
2GD being 2GD? Stop the presses!
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10835 Posts
December 18 2012 11:09 GMT
#51914
On December 18 2012 19:56 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 19:49 Velr wrote:
Oh noes, someone made a not 100% appropriate joke.

CALL THE POLICE!


That only works in some parts of Europe, Asia, South America, and Africa. (Appropriateness of the joke itself may vary by geographic location as well.) Within the United States, the police largely won't regulate speech. (Unless, of course, it is specific and directed at the individual police officer's appearance, lineage, or sexual preference. In which case the offender may be "regulated" on a number of other charges, but not the specific speech itself.)

TL; dr - Police don't care unless you are insulting the officer's mama.



Yeah and yet... For some reason.. Mainly US citizens seem to be offended.

And i can't imagine any country in Europe to have a problem with such a joke, as long as you don't denie the holocaust or are obviously and truely racist your fine in pretty much all of them... Oh, and if it's just a "joke" a comedian makes it is something diffrent again even if it's obviously racist.
Phil0s0pher
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia317 Posts
December 18 2012 11:14 GMT
#51915
On December 18 2012 20:09 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 19:56 felisconcolori wrote:
On December 18 2012 19:49 Velr wrote:
Oh noes, someone made a not 100% appropriate joke.

CALL THE POLICE!


That only works in some parts of Europe, Asia, South America, and Africa. (Appropriateness of the joke itself may vary by geographic location as well.) Within the United States, the police largely won't regulate speech. (Unless, of course, it is specific and directed at the individual police officer's appearance, lineage, or sexual preference. In which case the offender may be "regulated" on a number of other charges, but not the specific speech itself.)

TL; dr - Police don't care unless you are insulting the officer's mama.



Yeah and yet... For some reason.. Mainly US citizens seem to be offended.

And i can't imagine any country in Europe to have a problem with such a joke, as long as you don't denie the holocaust or are obviously and truely racist your fine in pretty much all of them... Oh, and if it's just a "joke" a comedian makes it is something diffrent again even if it's obviously racist.


I was offended by it and I'm Australian.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10835 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 11:17:41
December 18 2012 11:17 GMT
#51916
Thats nice for you.


"mainly"
Phil0s0pher
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia317 Posts
December 18 2012 11:22 GMT
#51917
Opps missed the mainly, I just posted now because I was the one who instigated the post.
Sometimes I remember that there will be a day where herO and Maru retire. And I get sad
Catbus
Profile Joined June 2011
80 Posts
December 18 2012 11:22 GMT
#51918
On December 18 2012 20:14 Phil0s0pher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 20:09 Velr wrote:
On December 18 2012 19:56 felisconcolori wrote:
On December 18 2012 19:49 Velr wrote:
Oh noes, someone made a not 100% appropriate joke.

CALL THE POLICE!


That only works in some parts of Europe, Asia, South America, and Africa. (Appropriateness of the joke itself may vary by geographic location as well.) Within the United States, the police largely won't regulate speech. (Unless, of course, it is specific and directed at the individual police officer's appearance, lineage, or sexual preference. In which case the offender may be "regulated" on a number of other charges, but not the specific speech itself.)

TL; dr - Police don't care unless you are insulting the officer's mama.



Yeah and yet... For some reason.. Mainly US citizens seem to be offended.

And i can't imagine any country in Europe to have a problem with such a joke, as long as you don't denie the holocaust or are obviously and truely racist your fine in pretty much all of them... Oh, and if it's just a "joke" a comedian makes it is something diffrent again even if it's obviously racist.


I was offended by it and I'm Australian.


Some people just like being offended. You must have a really rough time generally if you let things like these offend you.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
December 18 2012 11:27 GMT
#51919
On December 18 2012 19:45 Maesy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 19:25 Mabius wrote:
The TL community or Starcraft 2 Community in general is a living breathing hypocrisy. You guys stand by and laugh while someone makes sexists comments or uses offensive language but the second a scarlet joke happens WHOA... HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE...!!! What if any of those girls they were judging really got hurt by those comments or felt bad after? Why do their feelings not matter as much as scarlets?

Grow a pair.


Second person to think we're only defending Scarlett. Glad you bother actually reading the complaints.


This is unrelated, but I'm surprised given your previous habits.

Worst habit is definitely BM'ing after every loss even though I know they were my fault purely to see if they whisper me with an aggressive reaction for my own entertainment. I think I'm going to end up growing a hilariously awful reputation for it soon.


Makes your defense questionable, IMHO. Then again, I can see where someone might find the joke offensive. I doubt it was offered in that fashion, however. At the same time, there's a great deal out in the world that is offensive to someone. I find the lack of outrage at the incredible depth of misogyny inherent in Western culture (not even touching extremist Middle East countries), the lack of any appreciable respect for the differences of others or any attempt to instill such an ethos in children, and the hypocrisy expressed towards various groups by everyone to be offensive.

Then again, I also enjoy the humor of George Carlin, Sam Kinison, and Tosh.O. (Sometimes. Sometimes Tosh moves from funny into questionable.)

It's your choice to be offended. It's the choice of other people to not be. There won't be any converts made by long, impassioned pleas. So could we maybe move on?
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Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 11:34:00
December 18 2012 11:33 GMT
#51920
On December 18 2012 20:27 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 19:45 Maesy wrote:
On December 18 2012 19:25 Mabius wrote:
The TL community or Starcraft 2 Community in general is a living breathing hypocrisy. You guys stand by and laugh while someone makes sexists comments or uses offensive language but the second a scarlet joke happens WHOA... HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE...!!! What if any of those girls they were judging really got hurt by those comments or felt bad after? Why do their feelings not matter as much as scarlets?

Grow a pair.


Second person to think we're only defending Scarlett. Glad you bother actually reading the complaints.


This is unrelated, but I'm surprised given your previous habits.

Show nested quote +
Worst habit is definitely BM'ing after every loss even though I know they were my fault purely to see if they whisper me with an aggressive reaction for my own entertainment. I think I'm going to end up growing a hilariously awful reputation for it soon.


Makes your defense questionable, IMHO. Then again, I can see where someone might find the joke offensive. I doubt it was offered in that fashion, however. At the same time, there's a great deal out in the world that is offensive to someone. I find the lack of outrage at the incredible depth of misogyny inherent in Western culture (not even touching extremist Middle East countries), the lack of any appreciable respect for the differences of others or any attempt to instill such an ethos in children, and the hypocrisy expressed towards various groups by everyone to be offensive.

Then again, I also enjoy the humor of George Carlin, Sam Kinison, and Tosh.O. (Sometimes. Sometimes Tosh moves from funny into questionable.)

It's your choice to be offended. It's the choice of other people to not be. There won't be any converts made by long, impassioned pleas. So could we maybe move on?


Really surprised you would go digging for my posts. Didn't I post that in 2010 or early 2011?

Also not really sure what general BM has anything to do with this topic.
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