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32, Dia EU Zerg
played Broodwar in 1999, 2000 competitiv with a Team (mostly P)... quit 2003. Between 2008 and 2010 a handful of BW games, forgot everything, every hotkey except things like depots/pylons/turrets/cannons (those emergency keys). Now I use Grid, I am slow as fuck but the competitions still thrills me.
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What exactly would make older players worse, anyway?
If it's micro, then there wouldn't be any old piano players. Decision making gains from experience, so that should improve if anything. Reaction time might be something that deteriorates, but training might compensate for that.
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I think the effect of age on SC2 skill is somewhat inconclusive.
I would argue that speed and reflexes slow down as one ages, but there are old musicians that are still very fast. As some people have said, practice and repetition can compensate for decreased neural efficiency to some extent.
Altogether, I think more than speed and reflexes, the responsibilities and priorities of older people discourage investing the time and effort necessary to excel at a professional level.
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I am 29 years old. I started to play Starcraft when I was 16.
I believe I had more "potential" when I was young, but I was too immature and not focused enough to practice properly. Today, at 29, I am smarter and I can learn the strategy elements of SC2 more efficiently (which is partly attributed to internet resources that simply did not exist at the time Starcraft was launched).
However, I simply don't have the time or desire to practice enough to become really good. Once the games are no longer fun, I know I am finished for the day.
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Nestea turned 30 last year, so if that is the skill-cap for people past their teens I am perfectly fine with that.
Moreover, Vitali Klitschko, age 41, is the regining WBC heavyweight box champion and Holyfield was about to challenge him at the age of 49. Now which sport do you think is more age affected, box or starcraft ?
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I am 27, Plat EU Terran, Diamond NA Terran. Usually I play with some friends. Some of them are older then me - 28, 28, 30, 32. Some from the group we play together are younger - 21, 24, 24, 26. There are actually really a lot of players enjoying StarCraft and not being super young. Hell, my dad, he is 54, plays from time to time
I agree though that being not super young affects skill. And, BTW, Nestea is a great example (as is White-Ra). The more complicated StarCraft becomes, the more strategies are developed, the less he is achieving. The older we get, the less we are willing to learn or accept. But this is just my opinion.
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It's funny that there are obviously much more dedicated sc players around who are even older than me (I'm 26 still ) than I would've imagined looking at the current pro scene. I am even finding myself in a spot from time to time where it 's quite hard for me to acknowledge the skill level of certain youngsters, because I just can't look up to them due to their inferior age... :/ Btw I'm top plat Terran on EU trying hard to reach dia in Wings before HotS is released
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On February 15 2013 23:39 crow_mw wrote: Nestea turned 30 last year, so if that is the skill-cap for people past their teens I am perfectly fine with that.
Moreover, Vitali Klitschko, age 41, is the regining WBC heavyweight box champion and Holyfield was about to challenge him at the age of 49. Now which sport do you think is more age affected, box or starcraft ? If Teemu Selänne (42) is still playing hockey at the top level I'd agree with others that it's more a matter of time to dedicate that an older player usually doesn't have.
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31 Plat Terran here. If it weren't for all those other things going on in life, work, masters degree, house hunting, working on my car, I don't see how age would limit me.
Well, you know, other than how under powered Terran is.
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when youre 40 you can still learn a new language. when you are 15 it is easier though..
when you are 40 you can still learn how to play sc2 at a high level, but you hade to be prepared to put in more time than someone younger than you. if you want to be better than the players putting down 10-11 hours a day you have to play 40-50 hours a day. and also sleep and keep in physical and mental shape
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23 and I am diamond all races :D I guess what is limiting me right now is my focus to be honest, I find it really frustrating to play a 10 mins macro into 12 mins win/lose games PvZ/PvT and I often just feel like the time was wasted.
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29 master here, though stopped laddering until around october until HOTS.
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28 Diamond Terran. Free time is the only limiting factor for me right now but I never intend to go pro anyways, so it really doesn't matter.
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I am 34. Playing between 1 and 5 games a day on ladder. High diamond Zerg. My goal is just to reach master.
Played BW since it came out too. Mostly against AI and with friends though.
I watch more than I play. Even went to Korea twice. Had a picture with Jaedong and Flash in 2010. Got my BW copy signed by Jaedong.
Pretty stoked about this!
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On February 15 2013 22:19 kldfg wrote: What exactly would make older players worse, anyway?
If it's micro, then there wouldn't be any old piano players. Decision making gains from experience, so that should improve if anything. Reaction time might be something that deteriorates, but training might compensate for that. Reactions slow down. Creative thinking slows down. The ability to learn is worse as you are older.... probably a few more too. Also you have an actual life to live
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Music has nothing to do with reaction. Everything is anticipated (even when you improvise).
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33 and not playing SC atm. When I did I was rank 1 in my diamond division.
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I am 34. I mostly play 3s and 4s. I languished in Platinum as Protoss for a long time. I then bought a new account, played Zerg and went straight to #1 Diamond.
I think for older players Zerg is the stronger race. The key to playing Zerg is to not get flustered and just keep the macro and injects going. For older players this comes more easily. Protoss is heavily micro and casting focused and reacting super fast with Force Fields is so important that it plays away from older player's strengths and more towards their weaknesses.
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