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Brazen[six]
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada203 Posts
August 18 2010 20:59 GMT
#101
I feel old playing this game at 27, but it's nice to see that I'm not alone. Like many here I remember playing Sc1 in high school and having no responsibilities. Not so much the case any more. I'd like to dedicate more time to having fun playing this game, but a job, house and girlfriend take up all that "extra" time I once had.
Nearsite00
Profile Joined May 2010
United States31 Posts
August 18 2010 22:08 GMT
#102
You guys are kidding right. SC2 is not like football or basketball, where you need to be in physically great shape to be competitive (look at Day9!). I'm 34 and I play better now then when I played BW.

I remember SC1 and BW when I was in college and that game brings alot of fond memories.
just fuckin with you daddy - Hitgirl
imyzhang
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada809 Posts
August 18 2010 22:13 GMT
#103
game mechanics of sc2 is casual-friendly, which is why more people are doing significantly better than how they did in bw.
bleh
NewbieOne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Poland560 Posts
August 27 2011 11:09 GMT
#104
Age puts caps on people. In terms of just making you slower or less something, the difference is probably much less than the gain from years on years of practice (a retired soldier will likely make a short of work of a young gang member) but there are caps on what you can do.

However, there may be other reasons why we don't see 30+ year olds in pro tournaments (correct me, anybody, if you know of any such person). One would probably have to work in a gaming company to be allowed to skip work to attend tournaments, let alone practice. Marriage and children on top of bread winning don't leave one that much time etc. etc. Also, if you don't exercise or lead an otherwise active life, you're going to be less resilient in terms of all-nighters and gaming marathons at 30 than at school. I could keep playing for 40 hours around age 20. I doubt I could now. However, soldiers who are older than 30 can stay up for 3 nights in a row and be effective. Again, this is somewhere between training and natural limitations. It's hard to formulate a rule.

On the other hand, perhaps we may yet see people in flexible jobs or people who don't need to work playing as pro gamers. I could pull that off if I had the skill, as I dictate my work hours, don't have a wife or kids and could cover my bills by working 40 hours a month, not to mention any form of publicity would help my job as a freelance translator, let alone from the point of view of gaming translation contract. Therefore it would be a great option if only I had the skill. Might even try to pull that off if I stay unmarried but I'm not sure I'd be psychically able to limit myself to 1 title for several years.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 27 2011 11:14 GMT
#105
Hey guys, never seen this thread before the bump. I am 30, married, kid, and I cannot wait to get my son into StarCraft. =)
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Brunaland
Profile Joined February 2011
Iceland36 Posts
August 27 2011 11:14 GMT
#106
On August 27 2011 20:09 NewbieOne wrote:
Age puts caps on people. In terms of just making you slower or less something, the difference is probably much less than the gain from years on years of practice (a retired soldier will likely make a short of work of a young gang member) but there are caps on what you can do.

However, there may be other reasons why we don't see 30+ year olds in pro tournaments (correct me, anybody, if you know of any such person). One would probably have to work in a gaming company to be allowed to skip work to attend tournaments, let alone practice. Marriage and children on top of bread winning don't leave one that much time etc. etc. Also, if you don't exercise or lead an otherwise active life, you're going to be less resilient in terms of all-nighters and gaming marathons at 30 than at school. I could keep playing for 40 hours around age 20. I doubt I could now. However, soldiers who are older than 30 can stay up for 3 nights in a row and be effective. Again, this is somewhere between training and natural limitations. It's hard to formulate a rule.

On the other hand, perhaps we may yet see people in flexible jobs or people who don't need to work playing as pro gamers. I could pull that off if I had the skill, as I dictate my work hours, don't have a wife or kids and could cover my bills by working 40 hours a month, not to mention any form of publicity would help my job as a freelance translator, let alone from the point of view of gaming translation contract. Therefore it would be a great option if only I had the skill. Might even try to pull that off if I stay unmarried but I'm not sure I'd be psychically able to limit myself to 1 title for several years.

White ra is 30 right ?
Just wanna be better
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 27 2011 11:17 GMT
#107
On August 27 2011 20:14 Brunaland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 20:09 NewbieOne wrote:
Age puts caps on people. In terms of just making you slower or less something, the difference is probably much less than the gain from years on years of practice (a retired soldier will likely make a short of work of a young gang member) but there are caps on what you can do.

However, there may be other reasons why we don't see 30+ year olds in pro tournaments (correct me, anybody, if you know of any such person). One would probably have to work in a gaming company to be allowed to skip work to attend tournaments, let alone practice. Marriage and children on top of bread winning don't leave one that much time etc. etc. Also, if you don't exercise or lead an otherwise active life, you're going to be less resilient in terms of all-nighters and gaming marathons at 30 than at school. I could keep playing for 40 hours around age 20. I doubt I could now. However, soldiers who are older than 30 can stay up for 3 nights in a row and be effective. Again, this is somewhere between training and natural limitations. It's hard to formulate a rule.

On the other hand, perhaps we may yet see people in flexible jobs or people who don't need to work playing as pro gamers. I could pull that off if I had the skill, as I dictate my work hours, don't have a wife or kids and could cover my bills by working 40 hours a month, not to mention any form of publicity would help my job as a freelance translator, let alone from the point of view of gaming translation contract. Therefore it would be a great option if only I had the skill. Might even try to pull that off if I stay unmarried but I'm not sure I'd be psychically able to limit myself to 1 title for several years.

White ra is 30 right ?


Yeah, so is Boxer I thought.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Schnullerbacke13
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1199 Posts
August 27 2011 11:21 GMT
#108
i think nestea is ~30, too. in chess there are a lot of very good players ~40. so with eased ui we might see some top gamers 30..40
21 is half the truth
Aquila-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
516 Posts
August 27 2011 11:32 GMT
#109
IF an "older" person is not able to compete with youngsters, I don't think it is doe to the age itself like beeing slower or whatever, but rather he has not as much free time because of job, family and adult stuff while kids that for example go to school have more time to play. So if a 50 year old person spends as much time practising, I don't see any reason why he would be worse that a younger one.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 12:58:19
August 27 2011 12:56 GMT
#110
On August 19 2010 07:08 Nearsite00 wrote:
You guys are kidding right. SC2 is not like football or basketball, where you need to be in physically great shape to be competitive (look at Day9!). I'm 34 and I play better now then when I played BW.

I remember SC1 and BW when I was in college and that game brings alot of fond memories.


Of course you are going to play SC2 better for several frigging reasons. You probably had very little to no concept of how to actually play BW back then. Lots of the guys I met who said they played Starcraft: Brood War really didn't play it at all, let along bothered with the U.I.

Let's face it the interface is more user friendly in SC2 and not as demanding. Soon enough, it will be as players continue to polish their skills.

On August 27 2011 20:32 Aquila- wrote:
IF an "older" person is not able to compete with youngsters, I don't think it is doe to the age itself like beeing slower or whatever, but rather he has not as much free time because of job, family and adult stuff while kids that for example go to school have more time to play. So if a 50 year old person spends as much time practising, I don't see any reason why he would be worse that a younger one.


We have too few examples of this. RTS does take dexterity, mental health, quick reactions, intuition, etc. Lots of the guys moved on considering the pastures are greener elsewhere. We have what? White-ra and not much else.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
August 27 2011 13:17 GMT
#111
We have what? White-ra and not much else.


Not much else, like Boxer and Nestea?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 13:19:44
August 27 2011 13:19 GMT
#112
I heard them. Hence the not much else. White-ra makes it more personable.
Perfi
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Poland349 Posts
August 27 2011 13:20 GMT
#113
"In game, nobody old."
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 13:26:29
August 27 2011 13:22 GMT
#114
On August 27 2011 22:20 Perfi wrote:
"In game, nobody old."


We're all raging, bad mannered kids? o-O I thought I posted in this thread before ages ago, but it turns out this was another thread on the topic. Seems like it pops up quite a bit.

I might be old, but I'm young at heart :D
SnuggleZhenya
Profile Joined July 2010
596 Posts
August 27 2011 13:29 GMT
#115
Micro/APM doesn't go down with age, it goes down without practice, and most older gamers simply don't have the time to practice. There is a mistaken idea that 30s are "old" but many people are in their physical prime in their late twenties/early thirties.
You'll never get better being an angry nerd sitting alone in your room.
Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
August 27 2011 13:29 GMT
#116
Age influences enthusiasm due to having more responsibilities and worries. That and maybe players have a mental block thinking that their skill 'should' be deteriorating with age. The confidence and mindset is almost as important as the actual skill itself.
Phlatline
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Croatia176 Posts
August 27 2011 13:31 GMT
#117
I'm 29 and I don't play much (220 games since the game went live) but I play at high platinum and diamond level (depends what season you look at). Currently mid diamond. Love the game but have just enough time for cassual play :S
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 14:10:13
August 27 2011 13:35 GMT
#118
On August 27 2011 22:29 SnuggleZhenya wrote:
... it goes down without practice, and most older gamers simply don't have the time to practice. There is a mistaken idea that 30s are "old" but many people are in their physical prime in their late twenties/early thirties.


I wish I could say that for Brood War, but it doesn't apply. The mandatory military service that all Koreans have to do is somewhat of a valid argument, but supposedly they're getting in even better physical shape and there is a select few who do manage to get in Air Force Ace team, so they get to practice a fraction of what the other pro's do. Once they're released from their duties it's very hard for them to get back into Pro Gaming. So yeah, it doesn't necessarily apply to every game.

I definitely think a lot of the players haven't plateaued yet. As SC2 gets more refined we'll have to wait and see how the rest keep up.

There are too few pro's in our age group. Let's wait until the number rises to see what happens to the industry. Looks like a lot of us are casuals considering we have other priorities.

Cheers!
Shadrak
Profile Joined August 2010
United States490 Posts
August 27 2011 13:38 GMT
#119
28, married w/ fulltime job and Masters here.

Age reduces reaction time and dexterity but I doubt its substantial until 40+. What is substantial is the loss of free time that typically occurs with aging. In fact I bet a retired person with a passion for SC would out-perform your average 20 something who has too many responsibilities
R4TM
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil140 Posts
August 27 2011 13:40 GMT
#120
I just made 29, master league zerg player, i have been around a long time, ive played even warcraft 1 lol, old school.
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