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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10253 Posts
February 25 2019 08:37 GMT
#261
On February 25 2019 16:41 Squall1 wrote:
...and my wife is a noob at Sc2

It's not too late.

To get a new wife.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
February 25 2019 08:42 GMT
#262
31 here, playing terran in D1.
I've always been slower than my opponents, right now I'm at 120-130 APM on average (which is the fastest I've ever been).

I'm still trying to break into masters, maybe I'll get there someday, maybe not. I'm enjoying the game, so I don't really care :-)
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
February 25 2019 09:00 GMT
#263
On February 25 2019 17:37 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2019 16:41 Squall1 wrote:
...and my wife is a noob at Sc2

It's not too late.

To get a new wife.

lol
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
February 25 2019 09:21 GMT
#264
Just started playing solo ranked again. Last time I played solo was years 3 ago or sth. Since then I dabbled a bit in 2v2 and 3v3 games. APM is around 120 most games. Late game missclicks are a thing ^^'

Played 20 games so far, Plat is ezpz. Diamond here I come
Oh and I'm 31
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Tayewo
Profile Joined December 2016
Germany28 Posts
February 25 2019 10:35 GMT
#265
Thank you for all the answers I feel connected now!
Balance, it is all about balance (even in sc2 ;))
StarDraKe
Profile Joined January 2009
France65 Posts
February 25 2019 15:48 GMT
#266
33 years old, I play protoss diamond 2 in solo et Master 3 in 2/2. I definately play slower compare to other players and what I used to be. But I try to catch up with different strategy and gamestyle. (None micro based strat). And indeed with wife, child and work I got a lot less time to practice.

flyleaf
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany89 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-25 16:01:59
February 25 2019 16:00 GMT
#267
On February 25 2019 16:22 LHK wrote:
29 and personally feel I've never been better at SC2. Masters 1 / occasionally GM when I have the time to put in. Just hard to find the time with career, relationships, social life, bills, and so on. Starcraft tends to be the first thing I have to cut out when stuff gets hectic.

I feel exactly the same. The age doesn't really matter that much imo, it's mostly about beeing able to afford the time and motivation after hard working days for me.

My peak was masters 1 some years ago (maybe higher before they showed mmr but never GM on EU), I play sometimes for like 1-2 weeks now and reach masters 2 quite easy even with 31 years old, so I would imagine playing for a longer period would achieve masters 1 again. APM didn't change at all (depending on race 200-250 ingame, not sure about epm). What changed is mostly the motivation to "work" on something hard like StarCraft after working all day, this part was so much easier back in the day.
Zreg
Profile Joined October 2018
9 Posts
February 25 2019 16:13 GMT
#268
38, i wouldnt say im bad or things are getting worse but i care a lot less now. Im still getting the average 300 apm but my issue is always scouting and minimap, things are coming at me which i dont see or dont work out in time, because as ive said, back in the day 3 early gates meant one thing! Even tho ive played thousands of hots and lotv games i still eye brow raise when i see adepts in my base.

I dont think you get slower i just think you start to accept the mistake and think about it for the next game . . . but totally ignore it!
corydoras
Profile Joined November 2013
161 Posts
February 25 2019 16:57 GMT
#269
33. I haven't played in months (last game ~ June 2018). I started playing casually when I was 27, reached Diamond 2 once.

I had such a long break before and coming back was frustrating as heck - I couldn't keep up in Diamond, but when I tried playing another race or random, I rolled over everyone until low Plat. It reminds me why MMR decay was created a couple of years back.
Adun toridas!
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-25 20:43:17
February 25 2019 20:42 GMT
#270
28 here and i've been casually competitive since early HoTS. it's the quality of your practice that matters. yes, we all decline with age, but if you're not at the top of the talent curve it doesn't matter whether you're 15, 20, 25, 30 or 35, you can still get better by increasing your mental engagement with the game

i've peaked at top dia (4.4-4.5k) and never got higher because i don't train properly or learn from my mistakes. i play the way i want, do stupid builds, have poor concentration, tunnel vision, turn my brain off and micro, etc. occasionally i "tryhard" and i get better results, but it doesn't make the game that much more fun for me, so i just keep playing my forever diamond style. i enjoy spending my time hiding spawning pools off creep in my main more than i enjoy practicing cannon rush defense, so this is the league where i belong
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maddogmcgee
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia105 Posts
February 26 2019 12:05 GMT
#271
On August 18 2010 17:31 Rabiator wrote:
I am 43 and do not own the game. The beta clearly showed me that I could never really compete, but I dont really care about that either. The sad fact is that you can only play this "for fun" with a bunch of friends and most of mine do not have the time or desire to play. So watching replays is a nice "plan B" for enjoying good Starcraft, although I can still remember the joy of nuking 8 Overlords full of Hydralisks with one single nuke in BW.

With the desire to turn Starcraft 2 into a worldwide eSport I really think there will be some "victims" of this scheme among the professional players when they turn 30 or so and the next generation with faster reflexes runs over them. When I think of people like IdrA - who devote all of their life to playing the game - and think about his "tech switch in this game called life" after the end of his career, I can only come up with two future jobs:
1. McDonalds opens up a restaurant in the middle of Seoul and you get served there by all the former pro players.
2. Morning talkshows or small amusement parks around the country, where you can "play against IdrA for 5$".
None of those are very dignified, but for people who devote all their attention to one thing it will be hard to get rid of that addiction and be focused enough to do something else very well. The match fixing scandal clearly showed that the players are aware of the issue IMO, but many of the kids who aspire to become professional gamers do not realize the danger. Unlike basketball pro players there is no "Starcraft teacher" at school, so there is no clear "followup" to the "Starcraft pro gamer tech" in life and pro gamers do not earn enough to have sufficient funds for the rest of their life as top sports stars do.


Idra is a bad example. What he did, he did for passion for Broodwar. He then stayed with Sc2 because he was making very good money. When he quit he did uni and I assume got a job as a professional.
and he whispered, never more
maddogmcgee
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia105 Posts
February 26 2019 12:11 GMT
#272
33 small business owner here. I now take breaks of weeks to months when life/work is busy. I am suprised at how little difference it makes to my skill. I play against a few people who I know play like 5-6 days a week and after a break of a month or 2 I come back and am basically at the same level. I hit rank 1 diamond after maybe 6 months of playing WOL(when that was the very highest anyone could achieve!) and have been in diamond for the last ten years. Somewhere along the line I accepted I am not going to improve dramatically, but that made me much less likely to be angry with losses etc.

These days I am also able to have glass of red wine after work and play a few games of SC2 and not stress that it is killing my macro. Acceptance of mediocrity is a nice thing sometimes!
and he whispered, never more
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-26 13:07:23
February 26 2019 13:07 GMT
#273
38 here w/ one baby and another one coming.
Diamond 3 leagues...really messing around once in a while.

Highest i went was reaching D1 a few months ago.
Big Red Dog!
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-26 13:50:23
February 26 2019 13:48 GMT
#274
I am old enough to have played Way of the Exploding Fist on C64. I have played every major RTS since Dune II.
I used to be much faster, now I play Terran with 85 APM in Diamond often against opponents with 2 or 2.5 times my APM.

I am getting by on macro and decision making, my micro, multitasking and reaction speed have declined a lot.
MiCroLiFe
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway275 Posts
March 02 2019 11:06 GMT
#275
Im 30, Highmaster when i was active. Now i just get mad when i play ( im terran and terran suck) so i basically quit!

Im Terran. Yes i will balance whine somethimes. And thats how we terrans survive, Hoping for balance patches<3
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
March 14 2019 18:12 GMT
#276
im now 29 but i feel my speed hasn't tapered off too much and my ability to look at the big picture and avoid tunnel vision has improved. though i don't move as fast i've learned how to prioritize my attention so losing a couple dozen apm pales in comparison to the higher level decisions that are made correctly. i think bw is a great study in how people age and approach a highly menial and competitive task haha
get rich or die mining
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
April 06 2019 22:42 GMT
#277
One thing that I don't think I've particularly seen mentioned much is, the gaming market and trends have shifted as well.

Where is the next competitive RTS coming from that gains any traction? Arena FPS games are largely dead outside Quake Champions, which is still nowhere near as big as I thought it would be.

In those particularly genres, or in games involving similar skillsets, us old folks kind of have an advantage even now over any new entrant who's an RTS virgin, one that will presumably grow more and more over time as the genre grows less mainstream.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
starithm
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States118 Posts
April 06 2019 23:27 GMT
#278
On February 25 2019 17:37 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2019 16:41 Squall1 wrote:
...and my wife is a noob at Sc2

It's not too late.

To get a new wife.


Savage. :O
http://www.twitch.tv/starithm
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