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Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
August 18 2010 07:42 GMT
#1
Since most players I encounter seem to be between 15-25 I was wondering how many people here started gaming when Reagan was still president

The general consensus seems to be that your micro gets worse with age but Whitera is a great example of a 30+ player who still owns the top ranks and wins tournaments.
So I'm quite curious what your ranking/playstyles so far are as well, do we still have what it takes?

I'm 36 myself, platinum solo. Won, and lost , 100+ zerg solo so far and kind of an achievement junky with 2500 points.
Due to a lot of improvements which make it a much more macro friendly game (like for example multiple building selection, allowing for a lot less clicking) it actually feels like I'm doing better than I ever did in BW and WC3.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Anzat
Profile Joined February 2009
United States90 Posts
August 18 2010 07:51 GMT
#2
I'm 29, rank 6 platinum solo zerg at the moment. I do appreciate some of the interface improvements, but it seems like zerg is still a major APM sink.
Liquorshot_852
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)72 Posts
August 18 2010 07:55 GMT
#3
I agree. its way easier to get used to; compared to BW or WC3. 1a2a3a is easier than 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a

wait. whats the point in this thread? to compare diff blizzard games?
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
August 18 2010 07:58 GMT
#4
I don't think age really makes you worse per se, just the fact younglings like me have very few responsibilities, thus can play SC2 more.

Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
August 18 2010 08:03 GMT
#5
On August 18 2010 16:58 superbabosheki wrote:
I don't think age really makes you worse per se, just the fact younglings like me have very few responsibilities, thus can play SC2 more.



What he said. Maybe after 40-50 you can't compete with younger players but 30ish or your 36 shoulldn't be such a problem. By this definition I'm "only" 24 but I have a lot of repsonsibilities so that's eating in my time to play, which is probably the biggest problem I have now. That I just can't play as much as I want
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
August 18 2010 08:07 GMT
#6
wait. whats the point in this thread? to compare diff blizzard games?


No not at all.
I guess I just want to learn about / get to know some age 30+ like me who still actively play starcraft2.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
August 18 2010 08:09 GMT
#7
What he said. Maybe after 40-50 you can't compete with younger players


Well, my mother of 65 is main healer in a raidguild so I still got my hopes up
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 08:21:49
August 18 2010 08:12 GMT
#8
Im 25. I work and study at the same time. Beside that I play on drums in a rock band and my girlfriend eats rest of my spare time.. Yet I happend to get to diamond recently. But I guess it has to be my W3 experience.. I think that as long as you dont take the game too seriously, age doesnt really matter.. Im actually very glad Im able to catch on SC2 and Diablo 3 - those will be probably my 2 last games I'm be able to spend time on. Its way better for me to play 2-3 hours of Starcraf 2 a day than stare at Tv after work is done..

edit: In RTS age matters even less.. In games like Quakelive, its very age-limited. But as for Starcraft 2, you can own kids all day long and than take care of your own kids.. :-)
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
August 18 2010 08:13 GMT
#9
i dont think age matter anymore. all these good players are around 20+ look at white-ra

baller
KsBerzerk
Profile Joined July 2009
Japan105 Posts
August 18 2010 08:21 GMT
#10
often the age thing only applied to koreans too who were at such a high level, slowing down a little could drastically affect gameplay.. but also boxer said something like as you get older it's mostly the upcoming responsibilities that take a lot of time and adds to stress. Also consider that white-ra is a a slower player standing around 200 or so apm in bw, but his knowledge and intelligence helped to allowed him to compete against koreans.

that's my opinion tho
EximoSua2
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States216 Posts
August 18 2010 08:23 GMT
#11
27 year old shoutcaster here....

=D
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
August 18 2010 08:24 GMT
#12
I am 35 and have played all the old school RTS including Dune 2, Warcraft 1-2, Age of Empires etc.

I was much faster when I was younger but I am still doing ok (550+ Diamond) even though I am slow as hell (my APM is around 40)
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
August 18 2010 08:25 GMT
#13
I and most of the people I knew who were playing sc1 in 1998 were mostly late teens/college students (roughly the same age as most of the people on this site!). Sadly the vast majority of them eventually moved away from starcraft over the years. I know of only 2 other people from those days that are playing sc2 now, but they aren't very competitive, playing mostly the campaign and custom maps.

Life does get in the way of practice time when you're older, that's for sure. In my younger years I was capable of playing for 6 hours straight every day with no problem. Nowadays I play 30-60 minutes at most a day, a bit more on weekends. I'm currently in mid gold as protoss (placement matches were a biatch), and due to the low frequency of games I play it's taking me a while to move up. I'm hoping I'm much better than gold, because I actually reached Diamond during the final phase of beta after 50+ games.
King takes Queen
DaVinci
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands27 Posts
August 18 2010 08:29 GMT
#14
I'm 35, rank 40 diamond (452 points) solo Protoss. APM wise I can't compete at all anymore Still having fun though since AMM works so well (really the only good thing b.net 0.2 has to offer).

Biggest problem for me is definitely execution, I just don't have the APM to do what I want. I would need way more practice time to get it anywhere near the required amount to compete higher up the ladder. Since beta it has gone up a lot though, I started in bronze phase 1 and worked my way up to high gold, didn't play phase 2.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 08:34:27
August 18 2010 08:31 GMT
#15
I am 43 and do not own the game. The beta clearly showed me that I could never really compete, but I dont really care about that either. The sad fact is that you can only play this "for fun" with a bunch of friends and most of mine do not have the time or desire to play. So watching replays is a nice "plan B" for enjoying good Starcraft, although I can still remember the joy of nuking 8 Overlords full of Hydralisks with one single nuke in BW.

With the desire to turn Starcraft 2 into a worldwide eSport I really think there will be some "victims" of this scheme among the professional players when they turn 30 or so and the next generation with faster reflexes runs over them. When I think of people like IdrA - who devote all of their life to playing the game - and think about his "tech switch in this game called life" after the end of his career, I can only come up with two future jobs:
1. McDonalds opens up a restaurant in the middle of Seoul and you get served there by all the former pro players.
2. Morning talkshows or small amusement parks around the country, where you can "play against IdrA for 5$".
None of those are very dignified, but for people who devote all their attention to one thing it will be hard to get rid of that addiction and be focused enough to do something else very well. The match fixing scandal clearly showed that the players are aware of the issue IMO, but many of the kids who aspire to become professional gamers do not realize the danger. Unlike basketball pro players there is no "Starcraft teacher" at school, so there is no clear "followup" to the "Starcraft pro gamer tech" in life and pro gamers do not earn enough to have sufficient funds for the rest of their life as top sports stars do.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Drazzzt
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany999 Posts
August 18 2010 08:36 GMT
#16
Hi, i am turning 37 in a couple of weeks and play random (my P>T>Z) at around 500 diamond with an apm of around 100. So, i guess I am doing ok for a grandpa :-p. I think playing BW (on and off for 10 years) is helping my apm (even though it should be higher), but I notice that I am already getting sloppy (u just dont need that high apm compared to BW).

Unfortunately, due to work, family, friends, sports etc. i can only play a few games per week which does not help regarding my "stability" leading to a lot of catastrophic losses.

To be honest I am quite certain that right now the strategic development of the game is really low still and if you watch closely u can see tons of mistakes even at the highest level. So, I am quite sure given the time even at our age it would easily be possible to get 900+ diamond with available gaming time being the main obstacle.
Be Nice, Be Fair, Be Mannered.
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
August 18 2010 08:38 GMT
#17
Sometimes I read all those late 20/30+ posts ''I am slow as hell'', ''I cant compete with younger players'' and feel like Im approaching the end of my days Im 22
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
August 18 2010 08:43 GMT
#18
Well seeing quite a lot of 35+ diamond players here I guess you still got plenty of days left
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
August 18 2010 08:43 GMT
#19
I'm so glad this thread is there. I'm 28 and seeing younger kids play makes me think if I should be losing it. In fact I seem to be gaining more of it! I love playing Starcraft 2 and interacting with the community. RESPECT to the original gamers.
Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
August 18 2010 08:46 GMT
#20
I'm 39, didn't manage to make the Beta go despite having a key, and I placed into Gold league recently. My problem isn't APM, despite it being fairly low, (perhaps 50-ish or so, but it depends how long the game is - longer == bigger, which was the opposite of my pattern in BW). So far, I've only met one player, my final placement opponent, who was faster than me. Instead, I've got to fully grok the tech tree, what-counters-what and what to look for when scouting the other guy's base, etc. Also make less silly decisions.

Unlike basketball pro players there is no "Starcraft teacher" at school


Well there was that Alex Feng at Berkeley University, who delivered a course in Starcraft (though mostly for fun), and Incontrol seems to be having a go at making money out of teaching people to play (he wasn't the first to try it, but his effort is more professional-looking than most), so maybe those sorts of ancilliary careers come with time.
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