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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
February 20 2013 05:39 GMT
#181
33, my highest placement on TLopen is top 32
my tlpd http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2293_Rei
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
February 20 2013 05:42 GMT
#182
27 ... Was diamond for a while and C- on iccup in the good o'l BW days. I only play Starbow atm, good MOD for those who wish SC2 was a bit more like BW. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304955
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
February 20 2013 06:01 GMT
#183
On August 18 2010 17:31 Rabiator wrote:
I am 43 and do not own the game. The beta clearly showed me that I could never really compete, but I dont really care about that either. The sad fact is that you can only play this "for fun" with a bunch of friends and most of mine do not have the time or desire to play. So watching replays is a nice "plan B" for enjoying good Starcraft, although I can still remember the joy of nuking 8 Overlords full of Hydralisks with one single nuke in BW.

With the desire to turn Starcraft 2 into a worldwide eSport I really think there will be some "victims" of this scheme among the professional players when they turn 30 or so and the next generation with faster reflexes runs over them. When I think of people like IdrA - who devote all of their life to playing the game - and think about his "tech switch in this game called life" after the end of his career, I can only come up with two future jobs:
1. McDonalds opens up a restaurant in the middle of Seoul and you get served there by all the former pro players.
2. Morning talkshows or small amusement parks around the country, where you can "play against IdrA for 5$".
None of those are very dignified, but for people who devote all their attention to one thing it will be hard to get rid of that addiction and be focused enough to do something else very well. The match fixing scandal clearly showed that the players are aware of the issue IMO, but many of the kids who aspire to become professional gamers do not realize the danger. Unlike basketball pro players there is no "Starcraft teacher" at school, so there is no clear "followup" to the "Starcraft pro gamer tech" in life and pro gamers do not earn enough to have sufficient funds for the rest of their life as top sports stars do.


Completely disagree. There is an entire industry revolving around games. If it weren't so, then Blizzard and a whole host of developers wouldn't be making money. As it stands, Starcraft alone teaches many things aside from just playing. If you have a decent mind at "positioning" in a game, you will soon come to realise that SC2 isn't the be all and end all of games, and since the ethos of the community seems to be "always improving", it seems to me that people who play SC2 always seem to hold decent jobs, are good at something else other than SC2, and have a voracious appetite for information. Because of that, and if they are passionate, they are usually in fairly good positions. Half the people I know who play are investment bankers! (No, it's not because I'm one myself, I met them at barcraft). A good portion of ex proam gamers i know are now active in organising tournaments and promoting games for blizzard and other developers. I, for one, sell ad space to such publishers, and other companies that hope to tap into TV's "lost generation". And guess what - a huge population of young males reside in gaming - watching, playing, streaming. And if there are advertisers, there are jobs!

Oh I'm 32, don't play much, bronze (lol). I watch more, because my micro and macro sux, just practicing that these days. And since everyone is watching the damn gsl, everyone's gotten so good at executing timings and not missing supply depots... there always seems to be a 100 food army knocking at my door at 10 mins when I lose...
PapaCool
Profile Joined February 2013
Australia6 Posts
February 20 2013 11:31 GMT
#184
On February 20 2013 15:01 ke_ivan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2010 17:31 Rabiator wrote:
I am 43 and do not own the game. The beta clearly showed me that I could never really compete, but I dont really care about that either. The sad fact is that you can only play this "for fun" with a bunch of friends and most of mine do not have the time or desire to play. So watching replays is a nice "plan B" for enjoying good Starcraft, although I can still remember the joy of nuking 8 Overlords full of Hydralisks with one single nuke in BW.

With the desire to turn Starcraft 2 into a worldwide eSport I really think there will be some "victims" of this scheme among the professional players when they turn 30 or so and the next generation with faster reflexes runs over them. When I think of people like IdrA - who devote all of their life to playing the game - and think about his "tech switch in this game called life" after the end of his career, I can only come up with two future jobs:
1. McDonalds opens up a restaurant in the middle of Seoul and you get served there by all the former pro players.
2. Morning talkshows or small amusement parks around the country, where you can "play against IdrA for 5$".
None of those are very dignified, but for people who devote all their attention to one thing it will be hard to get rid of that addiction and be focused enough to do something else very well. The match fixing scandal clearly showed that the players are aware of the issue IMO, but many of the kids who aspire to become professional gamers do not realize the danger. Unlike basketball pro players there is no "Starcraft teacher" at school, so there is no clear "followup" to the "Starcraft pro gamer tech" in life and pro gamers do not earn enough to have sufficient funds for the rest of their life as top sports stars do.


Completely disagree. There is an entire industry revolving around games. If it weren't so, then Blizzard and a whole host of developers wouldn't be making money. As it stands, Starcraft alone teaches many things aside from just playing. If you have a decent mind at "positioning" in a game, you will soon come to realise that SC2 isn't the be all and end all of games, and since the ethos of the community seems to be "always improving", it seems to me that people who play SC2 always seem to hold decent jobs, are good at something else other than SC2, and have a voracious appetite for information. Because of that, and if they are passionate, they are usually in fairly good positions. Half the people I know who play are investment bankers! (No, it's not because I'm one myself, I met them at barcraft). A good portion of ex proam gamers i know are now active in organising tournaments and promoting games for blizzard and other developers. I, for one, sell ad space to such publishers, and other companies that hope to tap into TV's "lost generation". And guess what - a huge population of young males reside in gaming - watching, playing, streaming. And if there are advertisers, there are jobs!

Oh I'm 32, don't play much, bronze (lol). I watch more, because my micro and macro sux, just practicing that these days. And since everyone is watching the damn gsl, everyone's gotten so good at executing timings and not missing supply depots... there always seems to be a 100 food army knocking at my door at 10 mins when I lose...


Hey guys I'm 52, have been Gold in 1v1 (trying to get back, am silver currently) Gold in 2v2, Platinum in 3v3.
Age does have an impact as does time to play/practice. The 1 thing that really gets me angry is farmers, the main reason why I’m in silver for 1v1 & 4v4 is farmers, it’s not my skill level holding me back. Battlenet / Blizzard are on the road of fixing this issue thank god !. So being 52 I still believe I am a competitive player. I know I will never be at the top end, but hey to be where I am at 52 I think says a lot
Go Hard or Go Home ;)
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 12:12:46
February 20 2013 12:10 GMT
#185
There is no reason at all you can't have ~60 effective apm at any age when you are healthy, which is more than enough for master level of play.

Like said before, it's more about not having the time to practice.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
NubainMuscle
Profile Joined June 2005
South Africa423 Posts
February 22 2013 18:23 GMT
#186
One observation:

In Broodwar, I was not a very knowledgeable player. I did not research proper build orders and timings. Despite that, I played significantly faster. I also had much better micro. This amazes me since, at least in theory, micro in Broodwar should have been harder (smaller control groups, bad AI and pathing).

Today, ~10 years later, I struggle with even basic micro concepts like splitting, stutter-step, etc. The problem is aggravated by having a larger army. Fortunately, micro is not as important in SC2, but I definitely attribute this inability to age. My gaming setup is better now than it was for Broodwar (better mouse, keyboard, desk, monitor, chair, etc.). The design of SC2 should only help me control my units but I find the problem is an inability to click fast enough, group, box, etc all while having better gaming equipment.
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creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
February 22 2013 21:00 GMT
#187
29 yo high diamond
Terran it up.
shubcraft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany145 Posts
February 22 2013 21:04 GMT
#188
I´m 31 and I´m in a gang of guys ranging from 30 to 36, we are plat to dia depending on race, league and if we take our medicine in large doses ;-D
There are 10 ninjas hiding in this post ...
will216
Profile Joined August 2012
United States185 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 21:33:25
February 22 2013 21:28 GMT
#189
35, First system was Atari and first PC was a Apple Macintosh . I suck , I'm still in bronze and been playing on and off for a year 1/2 . I just start getting into SC2 esports and like that more then playing.
I'm not the greatest , but I will be one day ...
ShamW0W
Profile Joined March 2010
160 Posts
March 07 2013 22:39 GMT
#190
On February 16 2013 19:59 lonelyPotato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 21:23 ShamW0W wrote:
28, High-Masters on NA.

The biggest difference with being older, imo, is just that the responsibilities just keep piling on so you have less time for gaming. When I was younger I could spend 8-10 hours playing Age of Empires no problem. Nowadays I try to sneak in an hour here or there and will occasionally spoil myself on a weekend with a ladder-fest.

Speed-wise I haven't noticed much of a difference since, imo, speed is mainly dependent on focused repetition. At some age I'm sure physical limitations set in but I don't think that'd be any time before 35 unless you have arthritis or something fun like that.


As a person who is getting his masters degree and is still living with his dad at age 25... I basically get to spoil myself 5 days a week xD


Heh, at 28 I've been at my career and married for 6+ years. Funny the different paths we gamers take.
Half-Man Half-Amazing
KaiserKieran
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States615 Posts
March 07 2013 22:53 GMT
#191
NESTEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
NesTea is the Kobe of Starcraft.
NESTEA FIGHTING!!!
Prime Directive
Profile Joined December 2011
United States186 Posts
March 07 2013 22:58 GMT
#192
28 Diamond Terran here
Elairec
Profile Joined June 2011
United States410 Posts
March 07 2013 22:59 GMT
#193
28 Diamond Toss. Never can play as much as I want thanks to the kids =p
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
March 07 2013 23:10 GMT
#194
I'm late twentys too, have a fulltime job, a regular sport i follow, and in gold league. I'm very sure i could be high plat at least, if i would spent more time into play, as i know if i would be more strict at my openings and increase my useful apm by ~10, i could stand plat as the knowledge is there, but it can't be delivered into to game.

It's all about priorities
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 02:47:24
March 12 2013 01:57 GMT
#195
Hey guys, in light of this thread, would anyone be interested in joining a 30 or over clan for sc2. It would just be nice to hang out with gamers in similar stations in life on b.net. if I get enough interest, will start a clan and new thread on here for recruitment. Feel free to PM me.

Edit: or maybe 28?
Clan: QQGC - wundertunge#1850
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elctrc_wzrd
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada61 Posts
March 12 2013 02:13 GMT
#196
Guys stop making excuses about age and responsibilities. If you want to be a progamer and yo uare 35 and you really want like really really want it. You will make time, just like anything in life.
BM
wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
March 12 2013 03:09 GMT
#197
On March 12 2013 11:13 elctrc_wzrd wrote:
Guys stop making excuses about age and responsibilities. If you want to be a progamer and yo uare 35 and you really want like really really want it. You will make time, just like anything in life.


Did you even read through this thread?

Clan: QQGC - wundertunge#1850
TL+ Member
gnomeinbrain
Profile Joined October 2011
United States12 Posts
March 12 2013 03:23 GMT
#198
I remember playing Infocom's Zork I, II, III, Starcross; Original Castle Wolfenstein, Ultma, Exodus Ultima II when they were all new... and yes, Reagan was president.

I played the original SC1 when it was new and remember being excited for Brood War.

Yeah, I'm old.
If it ain't broken, don't break it.
wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
March 12 2013 03:28 GMT
#199
On March 12 2013 12:23 gnomeinbrain wrote:
I remember playing Infocom's Zork I, II, III, Starcross; Original Castle Wolfenstein, Ultma, Exodus Ultima II when they were all new... and yes, Reagan was president.

I played the original SC1 when it was new and remember being excited for Brood War.

Yeah, I'm old.


Dude, we're all old...

But Zork I? Holy hell! I was born in the month and year that Reagan was elected for his first term.
Clan: QQGC - wundertunge#1850
TL+ Member
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
March 12 2013 03:31 GMT
#200
On March 08 2013 07:53 KaiserKieran wrote:
NESTEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
NesTea is the Kobe of Starcraft.
NESTEA FIGHTING!!!


more like shaq
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
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